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2010-05-05 3:25 PM in reply to: #2838623 |
over a barrier | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... Photo Mike - 2010-05-05 11:29 AM Put yourself in a situation like they do on "Biggest Loser" and I think it's very doable, but not for anyone that has a normal life. The former biggest loser did DNF Kona.... |
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2010-05-05 3:30 PM in reply to: #2839432 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... Rogillio - 2010-05-05 3:09 PM mrcurtain - 2010-05-05 2:15 PM Triceratops - 2010-05-05 6:38 AM I can't seem to find it now, but I'm sure I saw a training programme or advert somewhere on the internet that said 'From couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks'. Please tell me that is absurd... Honestly, I think that you just misread or misremembered it. It is absurd, though not completely impossible. I did a quick google search and found nothing that resembled that time frame. Absurd is in the eye of the beholder. To many people, the idea of a 140.6 mile race is, in an of itself, absurd. I have no problem with the length of the race....but for someone to do it in 9 hrs....now that is absurd! ~Mike exactamundo |
2010-05-05 3:45 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
Extreme Veteran 590 | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... I think it it depends (as stated earlier) on coach potato. I have done about 10 tri's in 2008 & 2009, 8 sprints, 1 Oly and 1 HIM. I was not really trained for either the Oly or the HIM but completed both in 3:06 and 6:35, respectively. I was about 240lbs at the time of both races. I had shoulder surgery last August from a college baseball worn down shoulder and from that surgery, I developed 6 blood clots - 2 in my calf and 4 in my lungs. Spent the next 4 days in Pulmonary ICU and next 7 months on blood thinners. Was also diagnosed with sleeep apnea in December. Sleep has been a big issue and is still not resolved. My wife gave birth to our son in Jan. at 26 weeks and he passed in 7 days, just 15 weeks ago, so it has been a rough year, to say the least. |
2010-05-05 4:02 PM in reply to: #2839552 |
Veteran 183 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... MultisportMinistries - 2010-05-05 3:45 PM I think it it depends (as stated earlier) on coach potato. I have done about 10 tri's in 2008 & 2009, 8 sprints, 1 Oly and 1 HIM. I was not really trained for either the Oly or the HIM but completed both in 3:06 and 6:35, respectively. I was about 240lbs at the time of both races. I had shoulder surgery last August from a college baseball worn down shoulder and from that surgery, I developed 6 blood clots - 2 in my calf and 4 in my lungs. Spent the next 4 days in Pulmonary ICU and next 7 months on blood thinners. Was also diagnosed with sleeep apnea in December. Sleep has been a big issue and is still not resolved. My wife gave birth to our son in Jan. at 26 weeks and he passed in 7 days, just 15 weeks ago, so it has been a rough year, to say the least. I wish you the best of luck in your prep for Kona. It looks like "rough year" would be an understatement for you! I look forward to reading your race report about the journey and the race. |
2010-05-05 4:02 PM in reply to: #2839500 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... Gaarryy - 2010-05-05 3:30 PM Rogillio - 2010-05-05 3:09 PM mrcurtain - 2010-05-05 2:15 PM Triceratops - 2010-05-05 6:38 AM I can't seem to find it now, but I'm sure I saw a training programme or advert somewhere on the internet that said 'From couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks'. Please tell me that is absurd... Honestly, I think that you just misread or misremembered it. It is absurd, though not completely impossible. I did a quick google search and found nothing that resembled that time frame. Absurd is in the eye of the beholder. To many people, the idea of a 140.6 mile race is, in an of itself, absurd. I have no problem with the length of the race....but for someone to do it in 9 hrs....now that is absurd! ~Mike exactamundo Thanks Fonz! |
2010-05-05 4:03 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
Master 2404 Redlands, CA | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... I'm not sure you guys are aware of what the average American couch potato looks like these days. I still say no. Taking someone from the couch, and building a safe base (10% rule) takes about 10 weeks alone, you have the other 20 weeks for training and it seems doable but this person is going to be doing their first century, 16 mile run, 2 mile swim, during that period when the muscles and tendons just aren't strong enough to handle the load. I'll put it like this; you get 30 random people to do this and about 15 will complete it. |
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2010-05-05 4:11 PM in reply to: #2839601 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... furiousferret - 2010-05-05 4:03 PM I'm not sure you guys are aware of what the average American couch potato looks like these days. I still say no. Taking someone from the couch, and building a safe base (10% rule) takes about 10 weeks alone, you have the other 20 weeks for training and it seems doable but this person is going to be doing their first century, 16 mile run, 2 mile swim, during that period when the muscles and tendons just aren't strong enough to handle the load. I'll put it like this; you get 30 random people to do this and about 15 will complete it. I think that may be generous. A typical IM has about 20% DNF/DNS. It would take dedication and I think the failure rate (the DNS) would be way higher. The reason I say that is, even people who have trained for marathons and HIMs find out that IM take more time and commitment than they thought it would take...and these are endurance athletes. Not sure what we're talking about thought becuase "30 random people" is kinda vague. If you take 30 random people, statistically 0% of them will stick with training and complete an IM. ~Mike |
2010-05-05 4:16 PM in reply to: #2839621 |
Extreme Veteran 605 | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... Rogillio - 2010-05-05 4:11 PM furiousferret - 2010-05-05 4:03 PM I'm not sure you guys are aware of what the average American couch potato looks like these days. I still say no. Taking someone from the couch, and building a safe base (10% rule) takes about 10 weeks alone, you have the other 20 weeks for training and it seems doable but this person is going to be doing their first century, 16 mile run, 2 mile swim, during that period when the muscles and tendons just aren't strong enough to handle the load. I'll put it like this; you get 30 random people to do this and about 15 will complete it. I think that may be generous. A typical IM has about 20% DNF/DNS. It would take dedication and I think the failure rate (the DNS) would be way higher. The reason I say that is, even people who have trained for marathons and HIMs find out that IM take more time and commitment than they thought it would take...and these are endurance athletes. Not sure what we're talking about thought becuase "30 random people" is kinda vague. If you take 30 random people, statistically 0% of them will stick with training and complete an IM. ~Mike Ya, 50% is I think super generous. I'd say if 100 people started, 10 may race and 5 may finish. But, it's still possible. Edited by MNGopher 2010-05-05 4:16 PM |
2010-05-05 4:43 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
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2010-05-05 5:57 PM in reply to: #2839483 |
Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... running2far - 2010-05-05 11:25 AM Photo Mike - 2010-05-05 11:29 AM Put yourself in a situation like they do on "Biggest Loser" and I think it's very doable, but not for anyone that has a normal life. The former biggest loser did DNF Kona....This is also after he got married, had 2 kids and gained back about 80 pounds. I think what he meant is that if you take someone that's 20-35 pounds overweight, and you put him in a situation where all you do is eat, sleep, and workout (with no outside distractions...and have some scream at you "LAST CHANCE WORKOUT"...LOL) for 6 months and you can get some insane results. It's just not possible for the average person who has a full time job and possibly having kids and other family commitments. |
2010-05-05 6:26 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
Master 1411 Lexington, KY | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... Not all couch potatoes are equal in this respect, and some will surely be able to do this. Not smart, but certainly possible. |
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2010-05-05 6:31 PM in reply to: #2839706 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... PennState - 2010-05-05 4:43 PM Gosh I never get sick of these discussions And I never get sick of opinions about the topics of the discussions. |
2010-05-05 6:41 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
Veteran 129 | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... I'm going to go with 'possible' if you dedicate your life and are coached by an expert. From day 1 you live the life - nutrition, rest, stretching, pilates, technique work and all that jazz. The younger the better after 25, single, no kids, part time job. And it would help if you already knew how to swim! Once you make the swim cut off the other two are more generous in my opinion. We need some volunteers to prove whose right or wrong! |
2010-05-05 8:22 PM in reply to: #2839890 |
Master 2621 Almaden Valley, San Jose, California | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... 50. 50 up and down and inside out weeks. no coach, way over 40, 3 kids. unlikely? that's probably what made it work. |
2010-05-05 8:30 PM in reply to: #2840075 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... I'd be willing to set up a pay pal account and everyone can contribute to my IM fund for the entry fee and place bets for IM Cozumel. apx 30 weeks away. I've been a couch potato for a bit, axp 25 pounds overweight and this will settle the debate once and for all. just since I'm a giver also I have class a couple days a week, this along with the drinking and chasing women will be taking up my time... I'm at best a 50/50 shot right out of the gate.. Edited by Gaarryy 2010-05-05 8:32 PM |
2010-05-05 8:32 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... Course would also make a huge difference. Arizona is fairly flat, and I heard the same about Western Australia. Now compare that to Silverman or St. George last weekend. Not all IM's are created equal. |
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2010-05-05 8:37 PM in reply to: #2838909 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... velcromom - 2010-05-05 12:48 PM From the couch, with RA. Some swimming history many years ago. I signed up for IMWI in September of 2008. Ran for the first time the next day. Raced my first 1/2 mary in 3 weeks, first mary 5 months later. Snagged a bike from my son, changed out the seat, bought bike shoes - learned how to clip in/out in January 2009. Did first tri at Wildflower in May 2009. First Oly in June 2009. IMWI 9/13/09 in 14:12. Boston last month.....IMCdA next month. I'm in my mid forties, have 3 kids - and a very supportive, athletic husband. Wasn't much overweight. It was HARD, but fun. Many sacrifices in terms of time - but that was my call. BT was an incredible support and resource, still is. Start slow - stay consistent. Don't stop. Listen to your body. I believe for most people, if you REALLY want it, you can do it. I screwed up your BT tat that day, didn't I? It would've been a nicer day for you if I wouldn't have done that. Edited by 1stTimeTri 2010-05-05 8:37 PM |
2010-05-05 9:29 PM in reply to: #2837990 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... I think it is much easier to sell a plan "Couch potato to Ironman in 30 week" than "Couch potato to Ironman in 2 years" although the latter option would probable be a more reasonable, healthy approach. |
2010-05-05 10:33 PM in reply to: #2839552 |
Master 2426 Central Indiana | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... MultisportMinistries - 2010-05-05 4:45 PM I think it it depends (as stated earlier) on coach potato. I have done about 10 tri's in 2008 & 2009, 8 sprints, 1 Oly and 1 HIM. I was not really trained for either the Oly or the HIM but completed both in 3:06 and 6:35, respectively. I was about 240lbs at the time of both races. I had shoulder surgery last August from a college baseball worn down shoulder and from that surgery, I developed 6 blood clots - 2 in my calf and 4 in my lungs. Spent the next 4 days in Pulmonary ICU and next 7 months on blood thinners. Was also diagnosed with sleeep apnea in December. Sleep has been a big issue and is still not resolved. My wife gave birth to our son in Jan. at 26 weeks and he passed in 7 days, just 15 weeks ago, so it has been a rough year, to say the least. My prayers are with you for what you & your family have been through. I wish you all the best both personally and in your training plans. But I pray you do not risk your health for Kona. Multiple lung clots can take years to fully recover from. If it comes together-great. If not, don't take that stretcher thing literally. |
2010-05-05 10:36 PM in reply to: #2840111 |
Master 2621 Almaden Valley, San Jose, California | Subject: RE: Couch potato to Ironman in 30 weeks? yeah right... 1stTimeTri - 2010-05-05 6:37 PM velcromom - 2010-05-05 12:48 PM From the couch, with RA. Some swimming history many years ago. I signed up for IMWI in September of 2008. Ran for the first time the next day. Raced my first 1/2 mary in 3 weeks, first mary 5 months later. Snagged a bike from my son, changed out the seat, bought bike shoes - learned how to clip in/out in January 2009. Did first tri at Wildflower in May 2009. First Oly in June 2009. IMWI 9/13/09 in 14:12. Boston last month.....IMCdA next month. I'm in my mid forties, have 3 kids - and a very supportive, athletic husband. Wasn't much overweight. It was HARD, but fun. Many sacrifices in terms of time - but that was my call. BT was an incredible support and resource, still is. Start slow - stay consistent. Don't stop. Listen to your body. I believe for most people, if you REALLY want it, you can do it. I screwed up your BT tat that day, didn't I? It would've been a nicer day for you if I wouldn't have done that. You did - but you were still part of a GREAT day!! Started it with a grin.... btw, I'm in Idaho in 2 months, bring a tattoo!! |
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