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2005-07-21 8:22 PM

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Subject: Thunderstorms
As I'm riding along in the middle of a downpour in the second thunderstom I've had the fortune to ride through in two days...As thunder and lightning is all around me I'm thinking...I'm riding on rubber wheels I should be ok, shouldn't I?

What do you do when caught in a thunderstorm? I didn't have much choice other than to continue riding since I was on a converted railroad trail, there weren't any houses, convenience stores, etc. Ended up riding about 10 miles in pouring rain yesterday, but cut is short today since I saw there was no hope.


2005-07-21 8:40 PM
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It's best to find a low lying area. And riding on rubber wheels isn't going to help you. You get struck and it's going to hurt.
2005-07-22 5:45 AM
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If it is all around you get to a low lying area, nbo10 is right! Wet is not fun but doable. Fried is not so good.
2005-07-22 8:00 AM
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Keep riding!!!!!! I love riding and running in the rain/thunderstorms and we get plenty of thunderstorms here in Kansas City. Somehow it makes me feel tougher, even though I know that I am not.

Edited by Tell3131 2005-07-22 8:00 AM
2005-07-22 8:05 AM
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Just don't shelter under any trees! They attract lightning.

And remember kiddies - as my boss with money to burn tells me every time we ride together in the rain - Carbon Fiber does NOT attract lightning. (Bastard - I hate him when he's right).

2005-07-22 8:09 AM
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Okay - seriously... Here is what NOAA says...

Motorcyclist/Bicyclist

  • Carry a portable NWR or listen to the radio.
  • If you see threatening skies in the distance and you are passing a safe location, pull over and wait 30 minutes after the last thunder crack.
  • If you can turn around and get away from the storm, do so!
  • DO NOT ride into a lighting storm!

If you absolutely cannot get to a safe building or vehicle, here are some last resort choices:

  • Wait out the storm below an overpass. DO NOT touch steel girders. Move away from your bike. Remain on the dry surfaces if possible. Overpasses are engineered structures and are likely to be properly grounded. Although an overpass is likely to be higher than the surrounding landscape, if it is struck by lightning, the electrical current will likely be channeled safely into the ground.
  • Look for a bridge. Stay away from water. Stay away from any metal surfaces. Be alert for rapidly rising water if under a bridge.
  • High tension wires: If high voltage electrical tension wires cross the road, you may want to seek shelter directly underneath these wires. Do not get too close to the large metal towers which hold up these wires. Stay at least 50 feet away. Electric companies design these high tension wires for lightning strikes. If lighting should strike the wires or towers, the current is designed to safely go deep into the ground.

IMPORTANT: These recommendations are a last resort. You are NOT safe in these places just marginally safer than in the open.

  • If you are caught in the open and lightning is occurring within 5 miles, STOP riding, get off of your motorcycle/bicycle, find a ditch or other low spot and get into the lightning desperation position (AND JUST WHAT POSITION IS THAT?)
  • Motorcyclists should move at least 50 feet away from their bike. Bicyclist should lay their bikes on the ground.


2005-07-22 8:39 AM
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csgomez - 2005-07-22 8:09 AM
and get into the lightning desperation position (AND JUST WHAT POSITION IS THAT?)


Stick your head between your legs...

and kiss your ARSE goodbye
2005-07-22 8:48 AM
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Its always raining in Pittsburgh (or at least it seems that way) so I just ride. If its already raining when I want to go for a ride I'll try to wait it out, but if I have to commute home or get caught in the storm I just ride. The tri I did Sunday had a HUGE downpour for about 15 minutes in the middle of the bike portion and I was really glad that I was used to riding in the rain so I didnt freak out.

My only advice to riding in the rain: avoid the lines in the road. The paint they use to mark the road becomes very slick when its wet, and extra slick road + bike = danger!

I also pack a light rain jacket on the days they predict rain. It doesnt do much good, but its nice to have.
2005-07-22 8:56 AM
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Rain is fine to run bike etc in. Lightening... well if you feel your hair stand on end you ae screwed.
2005-07-22 9:03 AM
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Okay, here's a question...if you ride in the rain, what kind of work do you do on your bike when you get back? Do you just dry it off? Anything else needed?
Thanks.
2005-07-22 10:50 AM
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alreed - 2005-07-22 7:03 AM

Okay, here's a question...if you ride in the rain, what kind of work do you do on your bike when you get back? Do you just dry it off? Anything else needed?
Thanks.


Not to hijack this thread, but I think it has played out.

When I ride in the rain, I will always dry it off first when I get home. I then squirt a little TriFlow on just about every moving part, except for those that are sealed. A couple of hours later, I will go out and wipe down the excess TriFlow and make sure it has worked itself through the spaces it needs to. This may be overkill, but repetitive noises on the bike drive me crazy. I prefer to only hear the sound of my breathing and the tire on the road when I bike.

Mike


2005-07-22 11:04 AM
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Rollin' Thunder - 2005-07-22 9:50 AM
alreed - 2005-07-22 7:03 AM Okay, here's a question...if you ride in the rain, what kind of work do you do on your bike when you get back? Do you just dry it off? Anything else needed? Thanks.
Not to hijack this thread, but I think it has played out. When I ride in the rain, I will always dry it off first when I get home. I then squirt a little TriFlow on just about every moving part, except for those that are sealed. A couple of hours later, I will go out and wipe down the excess TriFlow and make sure it has worked itself through the spaces it needs to. This may be overkill, but repetitive noises on the bike drive me crazy. I prefer to only hear the sound of my breathing and the tire on the road when I bike. Mike

You might be better off thoroughly cleaning the drive train first (soap, degreaser, water), rather than just squirting/wiping. Road spray is full of grit and grime that can get into your parts (like in the rollers of your chain) and abrade the crap out of it.

So I wash the bike and the drive train, let dry completely, then relube the chain/derailleurs.

2005-07-22 11:16 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up Bear. I will change my routine. By the way, good luck on the double century.

Mike

Edited by Rollin' Thunder 2005-07-22 11:16 AM
2005-07-22 11:28 AM
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Rollin' Thunder - 2005-07-22 10:16 AM Thanks for the heads-up Bear. I will change my routine. By the way, good luck on the double century. Mike

C'mon down and ride with us! We'll show you some Cajun hospitality.

2005-07-22 11:46 AM
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Tell3131 - 2005-07-22 8:00 AM Keep riding!!!!!! I love riding and running in the rain/thunderstorms and we get plenty of thunderstorms here in Kansas City. Somehow it makes me feel tougher, even though I know that I am not.

As long as we are safely hijacking, I must say that whenever Tell3131 posts, it makes me get a twinge of nostalgia, missing Kansas City!

2005-07-22 11:50 AM
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the bear - 2005-07-22 9:28 AM

Rollin' Thunder - 2005-07-22 10:16 AM Thanks for the heads-up Bear. I will change my routine. By the way, good luck on the double century. Mike

C'mon down and ride with us! We'll show you some Cajun hospitality.



I don't doubt that one bit. I grew up in Dallas and love the whole area (except for Oklahoma). I am not sure that I am a big enough baller to come and ride a double century. I think I am going to try 150 in the month of August or September, just for kicks.

Mike


2005-07-22 3:52 PM
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Man, you gotta watch out for that kind of weather when riding on the Silver Comet!  I got caught in a thunderstorm once and lightning struck so close to me that I couldn't even hear my hysterical scream over the sound of the blast and my ears were left ringing.  I was out in Paulding County and the overpasses were pretty scarce.  If I were you, I'd just abstain from riding when the weather is like that.  At the very least, instead of going 25 mi out and then back to your car/home, do 12 mi one way, then 12 mi back, and then another round if you like.  That way you're not so darn far from your car!

Where did you start on the Comet?  I get on at the Concord Rd entrance.

2005-07-22 5:15 PM
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I don't doubt that one bit. I grew up in Dallas and love the whole area (except for Oklahoma). I am not sure that I am a big enough baller to come and ride a double century. I think I am going to try 150 in the month of August or September, just for kicks. Mike

You aren't  doing  LOTOJA? (Logan UT to Jackson Hole WY-a double century in September, I believe)

http://www.lotojaclassic.com/LOTOJAmain_content.html

2005-07-22 9:29 PM
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trimossy - 2005-07-21 8:22 PM

I'm riding on rubber wheels I should be ok, shouldn't I?


  • Man, I'm surprised Bear didn't flash the urban legend tag. The reason you don't have to worry about lighning when you're in a car is not the rubber insulation but the fact that you're in a big metal cage. No electric field inside a metal cage (anyone ever see that demo at the Boston museum of science).
    2005-07-22 9:45 PM
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    Whit - 2005-07-22 4:52 PM

    Man, you gotta watch out for that kind of weather when riding on the Silver Comet!  I got caught in a thunderstorm once and lightning struck so close to me that I couldn't even hear my hysterical scream over the sound of the blast and my ears were left ringing.  I was out in Paulding County and the overpasses were pretty scarce.  If I were you, I'd just abstain from riding when the weather is like that.  At the very least, instead of going 25 mi out and then back to your car/home, do 12 mi one way, then 12 mi back, and then another round if you like.  That way you're not so darn far from your car!

    Where did you start on the Comet?  I get on at the Concord Rd entrance.



    During the week I start at Cooper Lake since it's closest to the office; on the weekends I go out to Floyd Road since it's so crowded from Cooper Lake for several miles.

    I do my best to miss the bad weather. About 4P I start looking at the radar for storms and which way they are moving. Wednesday and Thursday it looked fine so I'm out of the office at 5P and then by 6:30P it's storming like crazy.

    I like the lap idea - I don't know why I hadn't thought of that.

    Have you ridden all the way to the end yet? I'm working on it - goal is to ride from one end to the other and back this year.
    2005-07-24 9:34 PM
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    Don't get caught in a T-Storm if you don't want to. You have a computer and below you have the address for the NWS in Atlanta. There are links for hourly forecasts and weather radar.

    http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ifps/MapClick.php?CityName=Marietta&state=G...

    BTW rubber wheels or not, you are going to fry if lightning strikes near you. The best defense is avoidance.


    2005-07-26 7:11 AM
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    I will always train in the rain.  Always have.  In high school and college, I ran my best 400m and 800m times in the rain.  I would always train in the rain, sans lightning of course.  I think it was just a mental thing.  I would always tell myself, "Some guy at my next meet is running in this stuff and if I don't, he's gonna beat me."  Not to mention the fact that the rain usually cools me off.

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    csgomez - 2005-07-22 8:09 AM

    Okay - seriously... Here is what NOAA says...

    If you are caught in the open and lightning is occurring within 5 miles, STOP riding, get off of your motorcycle/bicycle, find a ditch or other low spot and get into the lightning desperation position (AND JUST WHAT POSITION IS THAT?)

    Here is what NOAA says about that position...you really need to go to the link and check out the picture...

    Waskelton said to bend over and kiss your ass goodbye...not too far off! :-)

    http://www.crh.noaa.gov/pub/ltg/NOAA_LTG/ltg_NOAA_NWS_feetWHY.htm

    From NOAA's website:

    The Lightning Desperation Position

    SQUAT DOWN! KEEP YOUR FEET TOGETHER! - KEEP OTHER PARTS OF YOUR BODY OFF THE GROUND! - CLOSE YOUR EYES AND COVER YOUR EARS!

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    Was going back through some of my old posts and thought since the season is coming up this might be worth bumping back up...

    Michael

    2006-06-10 5:48 PM
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    thanks for this. i was otu a few weeks ago on a bank holiday monday and ten mins max into my ride thunder and lightening. straight back to the car and home. wouldn't have realised it wsa dangerous had it not been for bt! thanks
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