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 2011-02-12 1:46 PM |
Member  66 |  Subject: 70.3 before 140.6Thinking of doing SOMA triathlon (70.3 - 10/23) for training before my " A " race which is IMAZ (140.6 - 11/20) The 70.3 is on the IMAZ course so it would be great "recon". My last big training weekend before taper would be the weekend after SOMA. As long as I don't get caught up in the excitement and go all out trying to PR are there any cons to doing this that I may not of considered? Basically 30 days between the two. Think that is enough time? Pros, cons? Good or bad experiences. Thanks |
| 2011-02-12 4:30 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
| 13 | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 You have a month inbetween. That should be plenty. |
| 2011-02-12 4:55 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
| Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 My suggestion is to not do it. 8 weeks out, yes 4 weeks out, no You're going to spend a week recovering from the HIM right at the peak training period for your IM. Bad idea. |
| 2011-02-12 4:58 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
Expert 1706    NoVA | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 Some might make the argument for it being a long training day... Definitely to close for a RACE. Dan already covered the recommend times between. |
| 2011-02-12 4:59 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
Extreme Veteran 821 | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 4 weeks out... are u crazy maybe aqua bike, but I will never do a 70.3 so close to a full. |
| 2011-02-12 5:04 PM in reply to: #3352128 |
Elite 3140 | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 DanielG - 2011-02-12 5:55 PM My suggestion is to not do it. 8 weeks out, yes 4 weeks out, no You're going to spend a week recovering from the HIM right at the peak training period for your IM. Bad idea. gotta agree..I have not as of yet done a 70.3 (later this year) so I cannot comment personally ..yet.. but my background is in sports medicine and exercise physiology etc and that does seem too close. |
| 2011-02-12 5:23 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
Elite 3315 Miami | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 never done a full.... but last 70.3 race i did recovery quickly about 2 days and i was back in training. i did an olympic race 3 weeks after and posted some really fast times. but then again IM is not olympic. and 4 weeks out you are going to still do some good loading. |
| 2011-02-12 7:03 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 I would say no based on the fact that "A" race and "B" race and all that is a fallacy. You are either racing or you aren't. When you get in the heat of the moment, you WILL end up racing. also a 70.3 is still a good distance to cover and recover from, I would avoid it altogether if IMAZ was truly my "A" race. |
 2011-02-12 7:23 PM in reply to: #3352237 |
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| 2011-02-12 7:42 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
| Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 I agree with others -- don't do it if you want to perform up to your potential at the IM. Don't go in thinking you'll take it easy. You probably won't, and taking it easy during a race is mostly pointless (IMO). I do believe in the 'A/B' distinction. It doesn't have to do with racing or not. It has to do with preparation. 'A' -- I don't let other stuff interfere with preparation. (E.g., no HIM 4 weeks before an 'A' IM.) 'B' -- other things with higher priority can trump preparation for these races. (E.g., this year I'm racing an 'A' half marathon 2 weeks prior to a 'B' HIM. If the HIM were 'A', I wouldn't do the half marathon before.) |
| 2011-02-12 8:00 PM in reply to: #3352249 |
| Master 1404 Saratoga Springs, Utah | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 Fred Doucette - 2011-02-12 6:23 PM Leegoocrap - 2011-02-12 8:03 PM I would say no based on the fact that "A" race and "B" race and all that is a fallacy. You are either racing or you aren't. When you get in the heat of the moment, you WILL end up racing. also a 70.3 is still a good distance to cover and recover from, I would avoid it altogether if IMAZ was truly my "A" race. Agree 100%. If you follow BT for long enough, there is usually a thread asking a question to this a few times a week. Don't do a 70.3 before your 'A' race IM. You will hear the usual 'it's ok if you take it easy on the 70.3', but most of us get caught up in the moment and race the 70.3 or whatever beforehand. It's not really the effect on a race that I'm worried about (your IM in 4 weeks), rather it will mess with your big training weeks that are critical before the IM. 4 weeks out from IM is KEY training time. Personally I've done 3 IMs and my coach this year said under no circumstances should I race 4 weeks before my IM. That's just me. x3 Fred is right, that is prime training time. |
| 2011-02-12 9:21 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
| Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 Listen to your body....if you think you're up to it go for it. The only thing holding you back is your own self doubt, and nobody knows you better than you. Either way GL with your races! |
| 2011-02-12 10:08 PM in reply to: #3351967 |
| Master 1588 San Francisco | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 If it were me, I'd do it, but that's me. If you can be disciplined about not totally hammering the race so that you require recover when you should still be building, go for it. Just think of it as a training day. If you don't think you're going to recover well or can't be disciplined about using it as a training day only and want to be at your best for your A race, skip it. |
| 2011-02-13 10:29 AM in reply to: #3351967 |
| Member 66 | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 Thanks for the advice everyone! Much appreciated. |
| 2011-02-13 10:43 AM in reply to: #3351967 |
| Master 1547 | Subject: RE: 70.3 before 140.6 Have you completed a 70.3 race yet? If not I get the fact that you should do one before. Regarding IMAZ, the course is flat, so not much to recon. Perhaps try a mid summer 70.3 |
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