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Subject: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders

Hello,

I just bought a pair of SRAM S80 wheels. I have realize that  they have valve extenders and I notice when I try to put air in the tires it is extremely difficult. It's as if the  pump just doesn't want to stay on the valve when trying to get air in and I have to try and force it. Now I am concerned if I get a flat i'm wonder how to change a flat with these wheels and the valve extenders? Are there special tubes or a special way I have to change a flat with these?

 

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2011-04-26 8:39 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders

I'll just assume that you have the Zipp type extenders(which I hate).

Before putting on the extender make sure that the valve is completely open.  Twist the valve open, then give it a final twist which will lock it into the open position.  Also, make sure you seal the threading where the extender and valve meet to ensure a good seal.  Use plumber's tape. 

For changing a flat, pre thread an extender to your spare.  You'll save yourself a lot of headache that way. 

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.



Edited by mktoson 2011-04-26 8:40 AM
2011-04-26 8:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:39 AM

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.

I've been using the Zipp extenders for a couple of years now and have about reached the end of my patience with them.  What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?

2011-04-26 8:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders

these type work betters:

 

http://www.trisports.com/vittoria-valve-extensions.html

 

2011-04-26 8:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 9:45 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:39 AM

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.

I've been using the Zipp extenders for a couple of years now and have about reached the end of my patience with them.  What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?

I use Vittoria or Challenge latex tubes (2 brands of latex with removeable core) and Tufo extenders.  I purchased mine at Wheelbuilder but Real Cyclist has them as well.  No teflon tape to deal with and no need to carefully close the valve with plunger.



Edited by mktoson 2011-04-26 8:56 AM
2011-04-26 8:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 8:45 AM

What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?



Bontrager makes them, too:

http://bontrager.com/model/04467


Edited to add: A little bit of teflon tape on the threads of the insert can help with sealing potential air leaks, too.


Edited by Sharkboy 2011-04-26 8:53 AM


2011-04-26 8:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
Topeak valve extenders are where I ended up and have not strayed since.

No removing of any core needed
loosen and tighten the original valve via the extender
no teflon tape needed

2011-04-26 8:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
trix - 2011-04-26 9:46 AM

these type work betters:

http://www.trisports.com/vittoria-valve-extensions.html

Unless I missed that the OP was using tubular tires, the Vittorias wont work. I found that out the hard way by ordering them and thinking they would work with tubes with removable cores.

I ended up using the Tufo valve extenders. They have a rubber seal so you dont have to worry about messing with the plumbers tape (which ends up being a double PITA when you have to change a tube out on the road/course)

I went with these valve extenders.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCYPAGE=BUY_PRODUCT_STANDARD&PRODUCT.ID=3313&MODE

I picked up the Tufo Valve wrench as well.

2011-04-26 9:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
nhunter344 - 2011-04-26 9:59 AM
trix - 2011-04-26 9:46 AM

these type work betters:

http://www.trisports.com/vittoria-valve-extensions.html

Unless I missed that the OP was using tubular tires, the Vittorias wont work. I found that out the hard way by ordering them and thinking they would work with tubes with removable cores.

I ended up using the Tufo valve extenders. They have a rubber seal so you dont have to worry about messing with the plumbers tape (which ends up being a double PITA when you have to change a tube out on the road/course)

I went with these valve extenders.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCYPAGE=BUY_PRODUCT_STANDARD&PRODUCT.ID=3313&MODE

I picked up the Tufo Valve wrench as well.

The Vittoria's come in a tubular version and clincher version.  But you are right...they are not cross compatible.



Edited by mktoson 2011-04-26 9:03 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
nhunter344 - 2011-04-26 8:59 AM

Unless I missed that the OP was using tubular tires, the Vittorias wont work. I found that out the hard way by ordering them and thinking they would work with tubes with removable cores.

I ended up using the Tufo valve extenders. They have a rubber seal so you dont have to worry about messing with the plumbers tape (which ends up being a double PITA when you have to change a tube out on the road/course)

I went with these valve extenders.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCYPAGE=BUY_PRODUCT_STANDARD&PRODUCT.ID=3313&MODE

I picked up the Tufo Valve wrench as well.



The Bontragers work with clinchers. I use them on my FP80 clinchers.
2011-04-26 9:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:50 AM
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 9:45 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:39 AM

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.

I've been using the Zipp extenders for a couple of years now and have about reached the end of my patience with them.  What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?

I use Vittoria or Challenge latex tubes (2 brands of latex with removeable core) and Tufo extenders.  I purchased mine at Wheelbuilder but Real Cyclist has them as well.  No teflon tape to deal with and no need to carefully close the valve with plunger.

This sounds like a stupid questions, but I haven't had a lot of coffee yet this morning:

40mm Tufo extender + Vittoria Latex tube with 51mm valve = 91mm total valve

Is it just me or will that not work with a Hed Jet 9?



2011-04-26 9:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 10:15 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:50 AM
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 9:45 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:39 AM

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.

I've been using the Zipp extenders for a couple of years now and have about reached the end of my patience with them.  What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?

I use Vittoria or Challenge latex tubes (2 brands of latex with removeable core) and Tufo extenders.  I purchased mine at Wheelbuilder but Real Cyclist has them as well.  No teflon tape to deal with and no need to carefully close the valve with plunger.

This sounds like a stupid questions, but I haven't had a lot of coffee yet this morning:

40mm Tufo extender + Vittoria Latex tube with 51mm valve = 91mm total valve

Is it just me or will that not work with a Hed Jet 9?

40mm Tufo extender + Challenge Latex with 60mm valve = 100mm total valve

Vittoria also sells a 42mm extender with a removable core for clinchers



Edited by mktoson 2011-04-26 9:28 AM
2011-04-26 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders

I avoid valve extenders like the plague.  If you don't have to use them, don't.  Life is too short to deal with valve extenders.

My Zipp 404s are 58mm so I use tubes with 80mm valves; you can buy these in most but not all LBSs. 

Having to deal with valve extenders is a major stumbling block for me to want to go with deeper rims like 808s.  I have a low hassle tolerance and valve extenders are major hassle.

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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 10:15 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:50 AM
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 9:45 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:39 AM

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.

I've been using the Zipp extenders for a couple of years now and have about reached the end of my patience with them.  What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?

I use Vittoria or Challenge latex tubes (2 brands of latex with removeable core) and Tufo extenders.  I purchased mine at Wheelbuilder but Real Cyclist has them as well.  No teflon tape to deal with and no need to carefully close the valve with plunger.

This sounds like a stupid questions, but I haven't had a lot of coffee yet this morning:

40mm Tufo extender + Vittoria Latex tube with 51mm valve = 91mm total valve

Is it just me or will that not work with a Hed Jet 9?

I went with the 60mm Tufo extender with the Vittoria 51mm latex tubes. Works great with my Jet 9's.

2011-04-26 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
brucemorgan - 2011-04-26 10:41 AM

I avoid valve extenders like the plague.  If you don't have to use them, don't.  Life is too short to deal with valve extenders.

My Zipp 404s are 58mm so I use tubes with 80mm valves; you can buy these in most but not all LBSs. 

Having to deal with valve extenders is a major stumbling block for me to want to go with deeper rims like 808s.  I have a low hassle tolerance and valve extenders are major hassle.



This would be great if they made good tubes with 100mm valve stems. For those with Zipp 808s, FP80's, SRAM80's, or anything deeper, a valve extender is a necessary evil for now.

2011-04-26 12:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
nhunter344 - 2011-04-26 12:39 PM
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 10:15 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:50 AM
AndrewMT - 2011-04-26 9:45 AM
mktoson - 2011-04-26 8:39 AM

If you're like me you'll ditch the Zipp type extender and move to extenders with a removable core.  For me they are the easiest to use and least hassle.

I've been using the Zipp extenders for a couple of years now and have about reached the end of my patience with them.  What brand of extender do you use with a removable core and where did you get it?

I use Vittoria or Challenge latex tubes (2 brands of latex with removeable core) and Tufo extenders.  I purchased mine at Wheelbuilder but Real Cyclist has them as well.  No teflon tape to deal with and no need to carefully close the valve with plunger.

This sounds like a stupid questions, but I haven't had a lot of coffee yet this morning:

40mm Tufo extender + Vittoria Latex tube with 51mm valve = 91mm total valve

Is it just me or will that not work with a Hed Jet 9?

I went with the 60mm Tufo extender with the Vittoria 51mm latex tubes. Works great with my Jet 9's.

How much extra do you have sticking out?



2011-04-26 1:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
All this talk about valve extenders is enough to turn me off from ever getting DEEP dish aero wheels!
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Subject: RE: Changing Tire with new aero wheels & valve extenders
agarose2000 - 2011-04-26 1:09 PM

All this talk about valve extenders is enough to turn me off from ever getting DEEP dish aero wheels!


Too bad, because it's not a big deal at all.

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