Oprah and the enviroment (Page 3)

In my opinion I think your right.... was the hurricane expert assocaited w/ the Cato Institute? www.cato.org

Courtney...its ok!! there is nothing wrong with conserving some energy...and if you want to look at Leo while doing it thats ok too  

*its friday and were bored. Its just fun to argue.

Liking GW.... that's awesome!!

Liking the Angel Oprah... hmmmm

to bad about Libby.... hope he doesn't get 30 years... should be interesting to see what Rush says today...

"Global warming is already causing us problems"

How so?

I'm sure you and I disagree (political speaking) so let me says this... I recycle, it pisses me off when I see people litter, I turn off lights in my house (when I remember), I own cars that get avg mpg, I ride my bike to work when I can, I volunteer at animal shelters, I would like to adopt a portion highway around my home for litter control, etc...

Why other don't conserve? Good question... I'm a card carrying Christian conservative and I conserve. (fyi: not that my political or faith preference has anything to do with conserving out natural resources… but feel that people with my same political & faith affiliations have been tagged as slothful)

First - like Oprah, don't like GWB.  Up and down on Leo (loved Guilbert Grape). 

Second - don't believe in global warming - to track 2000 years or measurements is nothing in geological time.  Yes, the earth will reclaim us, not us the earth.

However, to sustain ourselves longer, conserving is necessary.  I hate waste - I recycle, I compost, I wash out my ziplock baggies and use them over.  But I make my living off of mining and see supplying the raw materials of our infrastructure as just as valid as using them to build something.

Often people don't understand that to sustain our lifestyles, it takes alot of resources, and conserving one thing often costs us in another.  Take hybrid cars - easy on fossil fuels, but great for the copper and nickel mining industries.  China has mandates on the % of cars that need to be built hybrid not because they are concerned about their environment but because they have large base metals reserves.

I want a bumper sticker on my scooter - "if it can't be grown, its gotta be mined".  Alot tamer than the "Earth First - we'll mine the other planets later". 

You know, I'm really happy to hear that. Politically, I'm equally sure we'd disagree, but about all the things you listed--we agree. That's great. I very much enjoy talking with people whose political views differ from my own, as long as we can get beyond the bumper-sticker, sound-bite level that passes as political discourse these days. I often learn important things, moreso even than when I'm 'talking to the choir'< b/c I would never preach ).

Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you. It is an impression I have, despite working in an overwhelmingly conservative Christian office of people doing environmental work---everyone else around doesn't seem to think/do what you do. It makes me hopeful that there is common ground.

Also underscores the point that 'sides' are far more complex than pundits and talking heads would have us believe.

And this is a TRIATHLON website--that fact continues to blow my mind...