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2004-05-11 5:15 PM

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CALLING ALL LOG GEEKS!

Yes, i want to do a few focused articles for the main site on some useful aspects of the training logs.  IN PARTICULAR, the new HEALTH section and the associated graphs to spot or recognize overtraining or what parameters give u awesome workouts.

I would want you to religiously log RHR, Stress, Soreness, Sleep, Fatigue, overall workout, hours slept, and weight.  If you havent played with the graphs, besides seing plots of SSSF (20 is max value-best) we can plot the average of S,S,S,F against RHR and overall workout.  The rule of thumb is if your RHR spikes by about 5 beats over a day or so, AND/OR  your avg SSSF goes down a lot more then normal daily fluctuation, THAT IS A SIGN OF OVERTRAINING.  plus you will see your 'overall workout' HOPEFULLY track accordingly.  cool stuff here.

I would like to see if the data plugged in can actually predict or, in retrospect, show one that they overtrained OR need a day off from the graphs and indicators.  And who knows what else they could spot?

SO, if you use the logs and want to participate, you need to first come up with a system for you to REPRODUCIBLY and ACCURATELY log these parameters on a scale of 1-5.  EXAMPLE, for 'sleep', 4 hours could be a '1' (worst), 5 hours a '2', 6 hours a '3', 7 hours a '4' and 8 hours a '5' (best) - THESE VALUES WILL BE SPECIFIC FOR YOU for each parameter of sleep, stress, soreness and fatigue.  So right down a 'how i feel' description for each 1,2,3,4,5 for each parameter.  CONFUSED?

After that, start logging as normal.  try to keep it either morning or night.  of course RHR is done in the morning before u get outta bed, before u pee, and a few minutes after recovering from the shock and horror of your alarm clock.  (OTHERS CHIME IN FOR TIPS...)  You can also log non-workout days too.

Reply to this if your interested...



2004-05-11 5:20 PM
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I'd be interested Ron!
2004-05-11 5:29 PM
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my name is Ellen and I am a log geek 
2004-05-11 5:33 PM
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Another log geek reporting in ...
2004-05-11 8:17 PM
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I am quickly becoming addicted to the log, but have never kept track of my RHR. If its as simple as finding an artery and counting once a day, I'm in!
2004-05-11 8:40 PM
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yeah...just put your finger on your neck or wrist artery...that should work.

OH, I forgot to mention that we should carry this out for several months...say through september?  Also mark down any significant events like a race and, of course, how u did/felt....u know, stuff like that.

more examples on a 'cheat sheet' for how u feel.

STRESS:

Level 1-You took part in road rage (worst), bigtime migraine.

Level 2- You threw something acrossed the room, have a stress headache, some cursing...etc..

Level 3-Your cursing under your breath at little sources of irritation like frizzy hair (maybe i'm way off here ladies ) OR bad coffee.  You roll your eyes much. HELP ME HERE!

Level 4-This is where most of us will be...hopefully.  We are not on top of the world stress free BUT we feel plenty relaxed.

Level 5-Nothing is bothering me today...not even the reception going in and out on the TV. (best)...remember in 'office space' right after the 'occupational hypnotherapist' keels over?  remember that music and how dude feels?  thats a level 5.

THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES...they will be diff for everyone...some may put a level 5 as something they rearely attain or some may put level 5 as something that they acheive frequently....IT DEPENDS ON YOU.  YOU JUST HAVE TO APPLY THIS CHEAT SHEET CONSISTENTLY.

You can start now if no questions...i will routinely peek in at your logs to see how things are going for those that respond here...we may tweak a few things so the data is represented better in the graphs.  I am also going to do a little research for more scientific studies so we can maybe improve or correlate things better here.

Around August/September I MOST LIKELY WILL contact you to go over a few things and see what cool trends we were able to find AND if the graphs were helpful to you.  After that I will write an article about it.

good luck!



2004-05-12 8:20 AM
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you can count on my help - I will put my data in. I wonder if I am not a "representative population" for this investigation. Knowing myself, I am 100% sure that overtraining is not threatening me.... LOL...

Edited by sanjana 2004-05-12 8:22 AM
2004-05-12 9:51 AM
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Another log geek checking in. Will be happy to add these stat to my daily log.
2004-05-12 10:29 AM
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I am in to the the training log. I need to locate my heart rate monitor and then i will really document my workouts. I will try to get into the routine to measure my RHR.
2004-05-12 4:20 PM
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Sign me up!  Now I have a reason to be so compulsive about logging, and measuring time, distance etc.

Now I can blame Ron !!!!

2004-05-13 8:25 AM
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i think i have a minor log addiction count me in


2004-05-13 8:37 AM
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sorry ok i have created my own personal SSSF 1-5 scale i think - its in my log for today under the notes bit, could u take a look and tell me if this is what u mean????

cheers

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2004-05-13 12:02 PM
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thats absolutely bloody perfect!  for all others who havent made it over to veiw ginger ninjas log, here it is:

Overall Comments: sleep:
1 = 5hrs
2 = 6hrs
3 = 7hrs
4 = 8hrs
5 = 9hrs

stress:
1 = manic
2 = overworking
3 = average
4 = comfortable
5 = easy

soreness:
1 = strain/pull
2 = cannot train
3 = average
4 = can feel i did an exersise yesterday
5 = none

fatigue:
1 = cannot get out of bed/sleepy
2 = hard to concentrate/body tired
3 = average
4 = mild tiredness in day
5 = perfectly alert

i was also thinking...to see maximum data-spread to spot trends, MAKE SURE your you can hit the 1's and 5's of your scale every once in a while...dont make them unattainable.  AND use ginger ninjas scale as a template to design your own as each of us is diff.

2004-05-13 12:52 PM
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cool i will try and stick to it - how long a trial period u thinking until u wanna look at the results? 2 weeks????
2004-05-13 4:56 PM
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i will give it a good month before i check in...to get past the 'noise'...i would like to see the whole graph filled ~30-60 days...
2004-05-13 8:18 PM
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I'd like to try this. Except for this week I religiouslyn check into my log. I have not started logging in this data, but will.


2004-05-14 2:27 PM
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Count me in too.  That way I'm more likely to log-in regularly

Do you want to know our ages too?

2004-05-14 10:42 PM
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I'll do it!
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