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 2013-01-03 2:22 PM in reply to: #4560391 |
Master  2277    Lake Norman, NC |  Subject: RE: Evacuate EarthGomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:17 PM If you could go light speed, you should be able to go 20.3 light years in 20.3 years... They discussed on the show the project orion propulsion where you drop small clusters of nukes out the back of the ship and as they fire, they push a plate that accelerates the ship to ludicrous speed. Or about 7% of light speed. At that rate, they figure it'll take between 80 and 100 years to get to a nearby habitable planet. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love it! Newton's Second Law... Drop a couple of nukes behind the ship, set them off an accelerate the ship... and liquify everyone onboard as they all get slammed against the back from the acceleration! SQUISH!!! I've got to watch this thing. Who comes up with this concept?! This ain't Star Trek with "inertial dampeners". Sure we can accelerate from a standing stop to faster than light and because we pushed this one Newton's 2nd Law Canceling button, nobody feels a thing.
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| 2013-01-03 2:29 PM in reply to: #4559862 |
Champion 6503   NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 10:43 AM BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-01-02 10:42 PM popsracer - 2013-01-02 10:53 PM TeamAngel - 2013-01-02 6:32 PM NatGeo used to be all about b00bs to spark readers interests (at least my dad), and now they will come up with whatever tad bit of information to live on peoples fears. I'd rather watch Honey Boo Boo meats Moonshiners than anything with NatGeo anymore. I hope you meant meets. Seriously, the way you get everyone to work is to hold a lottery and not announce the winners until the ship is ready to go. WTC uses this this method to get people (including me) to train and sign up for more events to validate Kona lottery slots if you are one of the chosen few. So your fee just to enter the lottery would pay for the ship, right? And then you pay if you get accepted. Just like WTC!
You couldn't do a straight-up lottery. You'd have to have full genetic testing first to make sure you don't have any pre-disposition for crazies or genetic ailments (diabetes for instance). So you have to qualify to be in the lottery in the first place. I actually think WTC could play a role. If you finish IM Kona in 12 hours or less, you're automatically on the ship because you have shown yourself to be physically fit and able to endure the long journey... Actually, the people who finish Kona in sub-12 might fail your "pre-disposition for crazies" rule! |
| 2013-01-03 2:31 PM in reply to: #4560409 |
Master 1780 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 3:22 PM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:17 PM If you could go light speed, you should be able to go 20.3 light years in 20.3 years... They discussed on the show the project orion propulsion where you drop small clusters of nukes out the back of the ship and as they fire, they push a plate that accelerates the ship to ludicrous speed. Or about 7% of light speed. At that rate, they figure it'll take between 80 and 100 years to get to a nearby habitable planet. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love it! Newton's Second Law... Drop a couple of nukes behind the ship, set them off an accelerate the ship... and liquify everyone onboard as they all get slammed against the back from the acceleration! SQUISH!!! I've got to watch this thing. Who comes up with this concept?! This ain't Star Trek with "inertial dampeners". Sure we can accelerate from a standing stop to faster than light and because we pushed this one Newton's 2nd Law Canceling button, nobody feels a thing.
Why worry? The earth is just a super computer created to provide the question to the answer (42) to the most important question ever. The white mice, really representations of superior beings in the 4th dimension, will surely stop the neutron start before it causes havoc with their plans. |
| 2013-01-03 2:31 PM in reply to: #4560409 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 2:22 PM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:17 PM If you could go light speed, you should be able to go 20.3 light years in 20.3 years... They discussed on the show the project orion propulsion where you drop small clusters of nukes out the back of the ship and as they fire, they push a plate that accelerates the ship to ludicrous speed. Or about 7% of light speed. At that rate, they figure it'll take between 80 and 100 years to get to a nearby habitable planet. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love it! Newton's Second Law... Drop a couple of nukes behind the ship, set them off an accelerate the ship... and liquify everyone onboard as they all get slammed against the back from the acceleration! SQUISH!!! I've got to watch this thing. Who comes up with this concept?! This ain't Star Trek with "inertial dampeners". Sure we can accelerate from a standing stop to faster than light and because we pushed this one Newton's 2nd Law Canceling button, nobody feels a thing.
The beaded taxi seat covers will take care of it.
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| 2013-01-03 2:39 PM in reply to: #4559994 |
Master 1517 Western MA near the VT & NH border on the CT river | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 12:28 PM drewb8 - 2013-01-03 10:52 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 9:48 AM It seems like you'd want to send out some smaller, faster probes ahead of time too to scout out the target planet. It would suck to get there and find out it's uninhabitable.drewb8 - 2013-01-03 10:47 AM You could do what The Simpsons did and have a decoy ship. If you get on board and are seated next to Tom Arnold and Rosie O'Donnell watch out. ^^Snerk They didn't discuss multiple ships which I thought was a bad idea. Put all your eggs (or humans) in one basket? They'd definitely need a huge ship to give you gravity somewhat like Earth's gravity. Then you could have scout ships that go ahead and then come-back. There is a design out there that looks like the Enterprise using tech we already have available. Called the Gen1 Enterprise. Exterior similarity only as the front saucer is a 1G gravity wheel with a diameter of just under 1500' and thats where all living and recreation facilities will be. The total length is 3150' http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/
One draw back is it can only hold 1,000 people. So we'd need a few |
| 2013-01-03 2:43 PM in reply to: #4560409 |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 12:22 PM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:17 PM If you could go light speed, you should be able to go 20.3 light years in 20.3 years... They discussed on the show the project orion propulsion where you drop small clusters of nukes out the back of the ship and as they fire, they push a plate that accelerates the ship to ludicrous speed. Or about 7% of light speed. At that rate, they figure it'll take between 80 and 100 years to get to a nearby habitable planet. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love it! Newton's Second Law... Drop a couple of nukes behind the ship, set them off an accelerate the ship... and liquify everyone onboard as they all get slammed against the back from the acceleration! SQUISH!!! I've got to watch this thing. Who comes up with this concept?! This ain't Star Trek with "inertial dampeners". Sure we can accelerate from a standing stop to faster than light and because we pushed this one Newton's 2nd Law Canceling button, nobody feels a thing. It's all just a ploy so that we'll accept the machines hitting the reset button on the Matrix... |
| 2013-01-03 2:48 PM in reply to: #4558884 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth I thought we were supposed to be saved by a Star Whale carrying New London on it's back and that The Doctor would pay us a visit. |
| 2013-01-03 2:49 PM in reply to: #4560394 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 2:17 PM Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 3:10 PM Fun question! I would definitely NOT get chosen since I had cancer and would probably be deemed "genetically undesirable". Issues I could think of many off the top of my head... mass of a single ship (or multiple smaller ships), water, air, etc., etc. But I'm going to focus on just ONE: Everyone would be LONG dead before they got there. In fact, their children and children's children would all be dead. It would take about 60 generations to make the distance... Take the BEST case scenario - the closest possible Earth-like planet is in fact Earth-like and habitable. That would be Gliese581c orbiting the star Gliese 581 in the constellation Libra. It's about 20.3 light-years away (How many years it would take to get there at the speed of light). That's about 119 TRILLION miles. You don't power a spacecraft continuously (not enough fuel, no matter what the type, even ion-drive). You get it up to speed and let it drift at that speed towards the target. It takes about 7 months for a small rover craft to travel approximate 142 million miles to Mars. No humans on that rocket, so they don't need to worry about g-forces affecting people and can just slam the throttle down. That's flying at around 30,000 miles per hour. Let's say we invented some super-space-drive (forget Warp-drive, faster-than-light, it's not possible). And that could move our Earth Evac Ship 225 times faster, at 6,750,000 miles per hour. That's FAST! Almost 7 MILLION miles per hour!!! Now we're at 1% the speed of light. We're really blasting our way through space towards our salvation and new planet... At that speed, it will take just over TWO THOUSAND YEARS to get there! You might say that in that time we could continually upgrade and invent ways to move the ship faster... But the ship would most likely have long-since been destroyed from the internal war(s) for power that took place. Science facts are a b!tch, ain't they?
And BTW... I do believe in extraterrestrial life out there in the Universe. I don't think it's statistcally possible for there NOT to be. But for the reasons I wrote above - That's why we haven't had contact and most likely won't for a long long time. The vastness of space and what it takes in terms of speed and time to get across it is ridiculously big. We've only been sending radio signals (speed of light) for 70 years now. So anything sent, received, acknowledged, and replied - at the earliest - would take 140 years. IF they were 140 light-years away or closer (which they're not). We wouldn't hear from anyone out there until at least 2082 at the earliest. Sorry.
Oh no, I agree with you on the vastness of space. Bill Bryson's "A Short History of Nearly Everything" gave a great layman's description on the vastness. And yes, we've only been sending radio frequencies for 70 years... By the way, do you realize that the strongest antennae when we first sent radio frequencies was operated by Nazi Germany... So the first sound that aliens could hear is possibly broadcasts from Nazi Germany. Kinda chilling... |
| 2013-01-03 2:54 PM in reply to: #4560436 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth pga_mike - 2013-01-03 2:31 PM Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 2:22 PM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:17 PM If you could go light speed, you should be able to go 20.3 light years in 20.3 years... They discussed on the show the project orion propulsion where you drop small clusters of nukes out the back of the ship and as they fire, they push a plate that accelerates the ship to ludicrous speed. Or about 7% of light speed. At that rate, they figure it'll take between 80 and 100 years to get to a nearby habitable planet. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love it! Newton's Second Law... Drop a couple of nukes behind the ship, set them off an accelerate the ship... and liquify everyone onboard as they all get slammed against the back from the acceleration! SQUISH!!! I've got to watch this thing. Who comes up with this concept?! This ain't Star Trek with "inertial dampeners". Sure we can accelerate from a standing stop to faster than light and because we pushed this one Newton's 2nd Law Canceling button, nobody feels a thing.
The beaded taxi seat covers will take care of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) Not saying your argument isn't invalid. I had the same thought because if you create this whole living environment with land and lakes and stuff and then jump it to 7% of light speed. You're talking some serious splat... But the Wiki Page suggests we were testing it until the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty of 1963. |
| 2013-01-03 3:41 PM in reply to: #4560434 |
Pro 3906 St Charles, IL | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth Samyg - 2013-01-03 2:31 PM Bigfuzzydoug - 2013-01-03 3:22 PM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:17 PM If you could go light speed, you should be able to go 20.3 light years in 20.3 years... They discussed on the show the project orion propulsion where you drop small clusters of nukes out the back of the ship and as they fire, they push a plate that accelerates the ship to ludicrous speed. Or about 7% of light speed. At that rate, they figure it'll take between 80 and 100 years to get to a nearby habitable planet. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I love it! Newton's Second Law... Drop a couple of nukes behind the ship, set them off an accelerate the ship... and liquify everyone onboard as they all get slammed against the back from the acceleration! SQUISH!!! I've got to watch this thing. Who comes up with this concept?! This ain't Star Trek with "inertial dampeners". Sure we can accelerate from a standing stop to faster than light and because we pushed this one Newton's 2nd Law Canceling button, nobody feels a thing.
Why worry? The earth is just a super computer created to provide the question to the answer (42) to the most important question ever. The white mice, really representations of superior beings in the 4th dimension, will surely stop the neutron start before it causes havoc with their plans. They didn't stop the Vogons.... |
| 2013-01-03 3:49 PM in reply to: #4560499 |
Expert 2192 Greenville, SC | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 3:54 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) Not saying your argument isn't invalid. I had the same thought because if you create this whole living environment with land and lakes and stuff and then jump it to 7% of light speed. You're talking some serious splat... But the Wiki Page suggests we were testing it until the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty of 1963. |
| 2013-01-03 3:51 PM in reply to: #4560434 |
Expert 2192 Greenville, SC | Subject: RE: Evacuate Earth Samyg - 2013-01-03 3:31 PM Why worry? The earth is just a super computer created to provide the question to the answer (42) to the most important question ever. The white mice, really representations of superior beings in the 4th dimension, will surely stop the neutron start before it causes havoc with their plans. |
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