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2013-03-12 10:10 AM

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Please read the following:

http://afl.salsalabs.com/o/5893/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5541#http://afl.salsalabs.com/o/5893/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5541

If you live near one of these facilities then the petition above is even more important.

http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/Facilities_Could_Be_Closed.pdf

I am an Air Traffic Controller and have been for 14 years, some military and some civilian. We, as a country, need to tell Congress to get their act together and quit playing games.

If you have any questions I would love to answer them. Please help and thank you for your time.

 



2013-03-12 10:42 AM
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Sorry I already signed the petition that keeps people from dying in the streets and firefighters from eating teachers while loose nuclear particles float about the atmosphere.

2013-03-12 10:44 AM
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Aarondb4 - 2013-03-12 10:42 AM

 

Sorry I already signed the petition that keeps people from dying in the streets and firefighters from eating teachers while loose nuclear particles float about the atmosphere.



I used up all my Likes on FB curing cancer.

2013-03-12 1:29 PM
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I one the other day stating that due to the sequester the gov't was going to have to shut down the force field that kept Godzilla trapped under the ocean.

2013-03-12 8:55 PM
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Sent.

Actually this is more important than people realise, especially when there will potentially be fewer flights across the US and even more airport delays, and don't forget about the safety issues, as air traffic controllers are responsible for keeping you and your loved ones safe in the skies!  

This NPR story shows what we could be facing and it isn't pretty: 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/02/21/172524523/one-place-you-may-notice-the-sequester-at-the-airport

I grew up as an "airport brat" as my Dad was an electrical engineer and helped upgrade local airports into international airports in Africa and the Middle East.  Driving around the airport in an ancient Landrover or Toyota, asking permission to cross runways, learning every type of different civilian aircraft, visiting control towers, and helping my Dad fix things was a fantastic learning experience.  I know a lot of air traffic controllers, who are gifted and dedicated people, who have an unbelievably stressful job, with a stunningly high burn-out rate.  Dub Z - 14 years, wow that is just amazing, you must have absolute nerves of steel?! 

Next time your flight is delayed, or the cost of flying increases x amount because there are fewer flights, blame Congress and not the FAA

2013-03-15 8:47 AM
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wartho - 2013-03-12 8:55 PM

Sent.

Actually this is more important than people realise, especially when there will potentially be fewer flights across the US and even more airport delays, and don't forget about the safety issues, as air traffic controllers are responsible for keeping you and your loved ones safe in the skies!  

This NPR story shows what we could be facing and it isn't pretty: 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/02/21/172524523/one-place-you-may-notice-the-sequester-at-the-airport

I grew up as an "airport brat" as my Dad was an electrical engineer and helped upgrade local airports into international airports in Africa and the Middle East.  Driving around the airport in an ancient Landrover or Toyota, asking permission to cross runways, learning every type of different civilian aircraft, visiting control towers, and helping my Dad fix things was a fantastic learning experience.  I know a lot of air traffic controllers, who are gifted and dedicated people, who have an unbelievably stressful job, with a stunningly high burn-out rate.  Dub Z - 14 years, wow that is just amazing, you must have absolute nerves of steel?! 

Next time your flight is delayed, or the cost of flying increases x amount because there are fewer flights, blame Congress and not the FAA

 

Thank you to everyone who wants to understand more about this issue. Air travel accounts for 5.1% of the nations GDP and for that to take a hit would be very bad.

Wartho, thank you for the comment, it has been an exciting career so far and I hope to keep it going for another 14ish years, Lord willing.



2013-03-15 9:47 AM
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As a pilot (private, not commercial), a shout out to the controllers.  They have kept me from flying into "cumulogranite" more than once.  Thanks!
2013-03-15 10:03 AM
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I certainly appreciate what ATCs do for me when I'm flying thru the air at 400+mph in a tin can.

But I do have to ask a more general question.  How is it that we got by for so many years paying our ATCs, keeping facilities open when were spending so much less than we are?  The cuts made due to the sequester are peanuts in the grand scheme.

My point is this sequester is a bunch of BS.  And honestly the Obama admin is trying to make it as painful as possible on the public to make it appear that it's the GOPs fault.  Let's be honest here.  It's ALL of our government's fault. They created this problem themselves.

2013-03-15 10:30 AM
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Exactly...this sequester crap is just a decrease in the increase of spending over last year. We had no problem spending much more on bailouts than this lousy 85 billion cut in the budget. If we can't cut $85 billion without the sky falling, we are in big frigging trouble!
2013-03-15 4:27 PM
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TriRSquared - 2013-03-15 10:03 AM

My point is this sequester is a bunch of BS.  And honestly the Obama admin is trying to make it as painful as possible on the public to make it appear that it's the GOPs fault.  Let's be honest here.  It's ALL of our government's fault. They created this problem themselves.

Your right, the sequestration is a bunch of junk. I'm meeting with the mayor, politicians (Senator/State Reps/Govenor), business men, and the pilots to try to get everyone to understand what could happen. The more and more I find out about the underwritings of Obama-care the more and more I see of the train wreck that is about to happen to the U.S. and it makes me terribly sad.

2013-03-16 3:04 PM
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Yep, disappointed in the prez... he said in the debates that it wouldnt happen... now it def looks like they are playing games.  It definitely seems like they are purposefully trying to make the general public "feel" the cuts... w/ air traffic control, no tours of the White House, etc.  And just to be fair, I dont really trust any of our politicians... I'm not sure any of them can get that high up without "making deals."  It's sad.  

Honestly, I am patiently waiting for common americans to get fed up enough to do something.  I'm ready to jump on board.  I heard Warren Buffet say once that passing a law stating none of them could be re-elected if they went more than 3% over budget would fix the problem... he said it sort of jokingly, like it would never happen... but it would def work.



2013-03-16 5:49 PM
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An overwhelming majority of the republicans I've heard have absolutely no problem with sequestration.  The more conservative the person, the more likely they are to tell you, "Sequestration?  A problem?  Nope, it's just a good start."

2013-03-18 9:46 AM
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A bit off topic... why is the cut off age to be an air traffic controller 31 years old? It shocks me that someone can't go to school to be one, if they are over the age of 31.

2013-03-18 10:53 AM
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KSH - 2013-03-18 9:46 AM A bit off topic... why is the cut off age to be an air traffic controller 31 years old? It shocks me that someone can't go to school to be one, if they are over the age of 31.

Because at 31 the govt. can still get 25 years of work out of a person before the mandatory retirement age ((((for controllers)))) of 56, now that does not include management. The reason the for 56 age limit is because of a lot of things start to deteriorate, first being health. At that age a studies have shown that reflexes, hearing, eye sight and cognitive reasoning (problem solving) start to slow down. 

And to reply to the Warren Buffet remark:

Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:

"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election.

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 da...ys to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail,  cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure.

Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to SHARE this on Facebook or forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2012

1. No Tenure / No Pension.

A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social
Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and
participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.

Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers
envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their
term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person SHARES this on Facebook or contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Don't you think it's time?

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!


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