Game of Thrones - BOOKS Discussion (Spoilers) (Page 5)

Ohhhhh!

I just read the part where Ghost walks right up to Melissandre and licks her. Jon is shocked. She's trying to coax him to accept her help to save Arya (who isn't really Arya) from her marriage. But he doesn't want to be "indebted" to her. The last words in the chapter, "And come that day, take my hand. Take my hand, and let me save your sister." Then left hanging.

 I don't think he will ask it for himself if he won't accept her help for someone else. But...would she do it without his consent?

I've got some reading to do today!

My wife refuses to believe Jon is dead.  I thought it was pretty clear.

KSH - 2013-04-10 10:38 AM

Big Appa - 2013-04-10 7:21 AM I got $5 saying he's not dead

I don't think he is either.

The fact that you guys like him and think he's not dead is exactly why I think GRRM would kill him off.  He loves doing that.

GomesBolt - 2013-04-10 3:14 PM

KSH - 2013-04-10 10:38 AM

Big Appa - 2013-04-10 7:21 AM I got $5 saying he's not dead

I don't think he is either.

The fact that you guys like him and think he's not dead is exactly why I think GRRM would kill him off.  He loves doing that.

Has GRRM ever killed off a POV character?  Did we ever get a POV from Caetlyn?

Ned was a POV in the first book right?

Wow, good question!  I googled it ... this is what came up.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/61541-pov-character-deaths/

... and this ...

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/75285-killing-pov-characters/

Big Appa - 2013-04-10 2:29 PM I'll go $10 on it

I'll take that bet if I get dead, but is resurrected/reanimated/wargs into Ghost's body/etc

wingsfan - 2013-04-11 11:26 AM

Big Appa - 2013-04-10 2:29 PM I'll go $10 on it

I'll take that bet if I get dead, but is resurrected/reanimated/wargs into Ghost's body/etc

I don't know how the red womens powers work but I'll give you into ghost's body

I didn't think about that either ... then he can hang our with Nymeria.  She has a posse'.

I vaguely remembering someone talking about the human warg's body dying.  If they are warged into an animal at the time, do they stay there, or do they die?

Big Appa - 2013-04-11 1:29 PM

wingsfan - 2013-04-11 11:26 AM

Big Appa - 2013-04-10 2:29 PM I'll go $10 on it

I'll take that bet if I get dead, but is resurrected/reanimated/wargs into Ghost's body/etc

I don't know how the red womens powers work but I'll give you into ghost's body

Then I'd need odds 

wingsfan - 2013-04-11 11:41 AM

Big Appa - 2013-04-11 1:29 PM

wingsfan - 2013-04-11 11:26 AM

Big Appa - 2013-04-10 2:29 PM I'll go $10 on it

I'll take that bet if I get dead, but is resurrected/reanimated/wargs into Ghost's body/etc

I don't know how the red womens powers work but I'll give you into ghost's body

Then I'd need odds 

How do you do odds on his death and how do we know if you covered it? lol

I didn't hear about Rob or Sansa talk about any dreams and thats how they say it starts but I got the idea they all have the chance to be one.

I'm not sure about all of the children being Wargs, but it does make me think that Jon and Arya are truly blood related.  

There are some rumors going around that Jon is actually Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark's son.  Arya and Jon are supposedly the only one's with Stark-like features.  Jon could have gotten them from Lyanna or Ned. 

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/  Careful, you could lose a day or two chasing down theories here.... its been incredibly helpful picking up all kinds of lost details that I lost when reading the books.  (usually with a strong ale in my glass)

Robb was close with Greywind, but Sansa lost Lady fairly early in the series.  I would have thought that Robb would have made a bond.  Not so much with Sansa.

He might have, but he wasn't a POV character, so we wouldn't know.

I don't remember if Sansa had Lady for even a week.

We might've known.  Orell was a warg and not a POV character.  I don't think Rob or Sansa were wargs because John didn't start having dreams of ghost until after ghost wandered-off and he didn't even know what a warg does.  Brand had dreams of being Summer when he was in a coma.  

KSH - 2013-04-12 6:30 AM

matt3liv - 2013-04-11 2:27 PM

I'm not sure about all of the children being Wargs, but it does make me think that Jon and Arya are truly blood related.  

There are some rumors going around that Jon is actually Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark's son.  Arya and Jon are supposedly the only one's with Stark-like features.  Jon could have gotten them from Lyanna or Ned. 

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/  Careful, you could lose a day or two chasing down theories here.... its been incredibly helpful picking up all kinds of lost details that I lost when reading the books.  (usually with a strong ale in my glass)

Of course they are blood related. They have the same father. If the story has told us the truth. I could see it coming out though that Jon is the son of someone else.

I think he really is the son of Ned. The Starks have been in the north since the beginning and so far it seems only people from the north have the connections to the ways of the sight and wargs.

Big Appa - 2013-04-12 9:36 AM

KSH - 2013-04-12 6:30 AM

matt3liv - 2013-04-11 2:27 PM

I'm not sure about all of the children being Wargs, but it does make me think that Jon and Arya are truly blood related.  

There are some rumors going around that Jon is actually Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark's son.  Arya and Jon are supposedly the only one's with Stark-like features.  Jon could have gotten them from Lyanna or Ned. 

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/  Careful, you could lose a day or two chasing down theories here.... its been incredibly helpful picking up all kinds of lost details that I lost when reading the books.  (usually with a strong ale in my glass)

Of course they are blood related. They have the same father. If the story has told us the truth. I could see it coming out though that Jon is the son of someone else.

I think he really is the son of Ned. The Starks have been in the north since the beginning and so far it seems only people from the north have the connections to the ways of the sight and wargs.

I agree that the bloodlines of the First Men seem to have the abilities, but he could have gotten it from Ned's sister Lyanna Stark.  That was my point.