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2013-05-10 11:26 AM

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Subject: IRS To Tea Party: Sorry We Targeted You And Your Tax Status


2013-05-10 11:43 AM
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Why should they get tax exempt status? Or any group/organization with a political driven agenda (conservative or liberal)?

I understand and support tax exempt status for charities and organizations such as the red cross, food kitchens, etc. that provide a service for the community. But political-driven organizations?

Maybe I am missing something. BTW, I also do not understand the tax exempt status of professional spots leagues (and I am a big sports fan).

Please enlighten me.

2013-05-10 11:47 AM
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I would imagine this line in the linked article:

Of course, tax-exempt groups can be politically active, but it can’t be their main focus.


might be an answer to your question. Not being a CPA, I have no idea beyond that other than the IRS is now officially apologizing for something that people were claiming the TEA party was being paranoid and tin foiled hatted about and basically ignored the comments they were being targeted for. Turns out the TEA party was right.



2013-05-10 11:53 AM
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Well, my post was more of a rant against tax-exempt laws and such.

However, I do believe that the Tea Party is mainly a political organization, and as such would fall in the category of non-exempt organizations according to the line you provided. But frankly, so would many other organizations on both ends of the spectrum. So, as much as I am not a fan of the Tea Party, this shows that they had a good reason to complain.

 

2013-05-10 12:47 PM
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I don't have enough information to know what is really going on...

Great thing that never slows me down.

On its face, I don't see the issue with greater scrutiny.

Here is what we know...

1 - Tea party affiliation is primary political.

2 - Their agenda is to not have to pay taxes.

 

I do however, work for one non-profit while being on the board for another.

The biggest things that the IRS is worried about?

1 - Your true mission is as stated and not a front for something else that would not qualify for nonprofit status.

2 - You are not trying to use the non-profit as a way to illegally avoid paying taxes.

2013-05-10 12:53 PM
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This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.


2013-05-10 1:37 PM
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Have you noticed how the government under this administration in particular is very big on getting their hands on lists?... Lists of donors to Tea Party groups, lists of registered gun owners. Why is that? And how could that information possibly be improperly used?

This is one of the rare times I find myself in agreement with the ACLU:

“Even the appearance of playing partisan politics with the tax code is about as constitutionally troubling as it gets,” said Michael Macleod-Ball , chief of staff at the ACLU’s Washington Legislative Office. “With the recent push to grant federal agencies broad new powers to mandate donor disclosure for advocacy groups on both the left and the right, there must be clear checks in place to prevent this from ever happening again.”

2013-05-10 3:12 PM
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mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

2013-05-10 3:33 PM
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jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 2:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

You know, it takes two to tango. I find it odd you rail so much about a behavior you seem to enjoy engaging in. Can we please get back to the topic.

It is in fact a liberal administration. But there is no need to tie the administration, to something it seems was done from individuals. Ultimately, The President is the leader of the country, but it does not make him responsible. And trying to say he directed it is an even bigger stretch.

Stick with Bengazi. that one is big enough.

2013-05-10 3:35 PM
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mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

What information do you have that this was directed by the "Administration"? Do you realize the current head was a Bush appointee?

2013-05-10 3:42 PM
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scoobysdad - 2013-05-10 12:37 PM Have you noticed how the government under this administration in particular is very big on getting their hands on lists?... Lists of donors to Tea Party groups, lists of registered gun owners. Why is that? And how could that information possibly be improperly used? This is one of the rare times I find myself in agreement with the ACLU: “Even the appearance of playing partisan politics with the tax code is about as constitutionally troubling as it gets,” said Michael Macleod-Ball , chief of staff at the ACLU’s Washington Legislative Office. “With the recent push to grant federal agencies broad new powers to mandate donor disclosure for advocacy groups on both the left and the right, there must be clear checks in place to prevent this from ever happening again.”

These days, I do not have a problem with any organization that fights to protect rights. I may not agree with the current baby raper or mass murderer they are trying to protect, but I applaud the fight. Somebody has to do it.



2013-05-10 3:58 PM
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powerman - 2013-05-10 2:33 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 2:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

You know, it takes two to tango. I find it odd you rail so much about a behavior you seem to enjoy engaging in. Can we please get back to the topic.

It is in fact a liberal administration. But there is no need to tie the administration, to something it seems was done from individuals. Ultimately, The President is the leader of the country, but it does not make him responsible. And trying to say he directed it is an even bigger stretch.

Stick with Bengazi. that one is big enough.

Sir, I may do many things, but "RAIL" is sadly not one of them..

Me thinks thou dost protest too much!

2013-05-10 4:27 PM
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For the record, i no longer support, nor endorse any political party. The democratic party, however, is in control. I did not say this administration, nor their king, directed any of it. I will say there is s multitude of scandal that will be covered up by this administration and its liberal media. I don't defend the Tea Party either. I hear they are a bunch of racist, homophobe, gun loving, hyper patriotic, anti baby killing idiots.





2013-05-10 4:28 PM
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jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 4:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!



Sorry to disappoint but I'm not right winged. I just remember the TEA (acronym, all caps) party making all kinds of noise about being targeted by the IRS and all the left leaning to screamingly left talking about how they were being paranoid and making things up. I found this admission by the IRS amusing as hell.

Side note, it's interesting how close together IRS and IRA are on the keyboard

2013-05-10 4:40 PM
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DanielG - 2013-05-10 3:28 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 4:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not right winged. I just remember the TEA (acronym, all caps) party making all kinds of noise about being targeted by the IRS and all the left leaning to screamingly left talking about how they were being paranoid and making things up. I found this admission by the IRS amusing as hell. Side note, it's interesting how close together IRS and IRA are on the keyboard

Daniel, I'm NOT disappointed.  I just wanted to give you props for sticking to the Thread Topic. 

I'm just feeling a bit 'trollish' today, so i should simply say...HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, EVERYBODY.

ps-Hope everyone can pick up a phone and call a 'mom' in your life.  

2013-05-10 5:01 PM
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jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 5:40 PM

DanielG - 2013-05-10 3:28 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 4:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not right winged. I just remember the TEA (acronym, all caps) party making all kinds of noise about being targeted by the IRS and all the left leaning to screamingly left talking about how they were being paranoid and making things up. I found this admission by the IRS amusing as hell. Side note, it's interesting how close together IRS and IRA are on the keyboard

Daniel, I'm NOT disappointed.  I just wanted to give you props for sticking to the Thread Topic. 

I'm just feeling a bit 'trollish' today, so i should simply say...HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, EVERYBODY.

ps-Hope everyone can pick up a phone and call a 'mom' in your life.  



I do try to stick to the subject of them.

Took mom to her eye surgery appointment and am taking her to the next one. Told her it was her Mother's Day and B-Day presents all wrapped up in one



2013-05-10 5:15 PM
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DanielG - 2013-05-10 4:01 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 5:40 PM
DanielG - 2013-05-10 3:28 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 4:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not right winged. I just remember the TEA (acronym, all caps) party making all kinds of noise about being targeted by the IRS and all the left leaning to screamingly left talking about how they were being paranoid and making things up. I found this admission by the IRS amusing as hell. Side note, it's interesting how close together IRS and IRA are on the keyboard

Daniel, I'm NOT disappointed.  I just wanted to give you props for sticking to the Thread Topic. 

I'm just feeling a bit 'trollish' today, so i should simply say...HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, EVERYBODY.

ps-Hope everyone can pick up a phone and call a 'mom' in your life.  

I do try to stick to the subject of them. Took mom to her eye surgery appointment and am taking her to the next one. Told her it was her Mother's Day and B-Day presents all wrapped up in one

All hard on the outside... all mushy on the inside.

2013-05-10 5:44 PM
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powerman - 2013-05-10 6:15 PM

DanielG - 2013-05-10 4:01 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 5:40 PM
DanielG - 2013-05-10 3:28 PM
jeffnboise - 2013-05-10 4:12 PM

mad-dog - 2013-05-10 11:53 AM This liberal administration, including its IRS, has run amuck. Total disgrace.

I find it disgraceful that it took SIX WHOLE POSTS before someone referenced 'this liberal administration''.  Yet, Oddly, no one (minus Daniel) has defended the Tea Party. (thank you, Daniel)

Come On, Righties....Step Yer game UP!

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not right winged. I just remember the TEA (acronym, all caps) party making all kinds of noise about being targeted by the IRS and all the left leaning to screamingly left talking about how they were being paranoid and making things up. I found this admission by the IRS amusing as hell. Side note, it's interesting how close together IRS and IRA are on the keyboard

Daniel, I'm NOT disappointed.  I just wanted to give you props for sticking to the Thread Topic. 

I'm just feeling a bit 'trollish' today, so i should simply say...HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, EVERYBODY.

ps-Hope everyone can pick up a phone and call a 'mom' in your life.  

I do try to stick to the subject of them. Took mom to her eye surgery appointment and am taking her to the next one. Told her it was her Mother's Day and B-Day presents all wrapped up in one

All hard on the outside... all mushy on the inside.



I've been called worse

2013-05-10 9:52 PM
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Very predictable....
2013-05-11 3:53 AM
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mad-dog - 2013-05-10 10:52 PM

Very predictable....


The IRS?
The TEA party?
The tides?
Old Faithful?


2013-05-11 7:24 AM
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And to think the IRS is the enforcement arm of Obamacare.


2013-05-11 9:49 AM
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NXS - 2013-05-11 7:24 AM And to think the IRS is the enforcement arm of Obamacare.

I was  thinking that too  

2013-05-11 10:20 AM
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tuwood - 2013-05-11 9:49 AM

NXS - 2013-05-11 7:24 AM And to think the IRS is the enforcement arm of Obamacare.

I was  thinking that too  




How could administering healthcare on a political basis possibly be a bad thing?


2013-05-12 5:59 PM
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I know we've brought up parallels with Obama and Nixon (Watergate) in the Benghazi thread, but Joe Klein mentions Obama being on same page as Nixon with this as well.  I had forgotten all about Nixon using the IRS to bully political opponents.

IRS Mess

 

 

2013-05-12 6:04 PM
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tuwood - 2013-05-12 4:59 PM

I know we've brought up parallels with Obama and Nixon (Watergate) in the Benghazi thread, but Joe Klein mentions Obama being on same page as Nixon with this as well.  I had forgotten all about Nixon using the IRS to bully political opponents.

IRS Mess

 

Honestly, that's just more spin too. How about we just compare it to Bengazi. Comparing it to Watergate does not get Obama impeached.. which obviously is the Holy Grail at this point for some. Should we bring up the Nazi's too to make a point?

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