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2007-03-14 1:42 PM
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For the record...according to some literature...hippos are one of the deadliest animals in Africa (towards humans, anyhow)...they're tough, yo.

Also, re clydes - perhaps not BMI, but rather bodyfat% would be a better method...and even that's ridiculous. Saying that someone that's 200+ lbs shouldn't e a clyde when they're only 5'5" as compared to someone who is 201 lbs and 6'7". You've got to draw a line somewhere and it's going to appear random to at least someone somewhere.


2007-03-14 2:05 PM
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thanks is what I like about the chicago triathlon is there are so many people that everyone has a shot of being competitve because there is a race for them. I am not talking about showing up and getting a medal but honestly have to train just has hard as there lighter counterparts.
2007-03-14 2:19 PM
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I'm so glad they chose a goddess name for chicks, 'cause I might cry if I had to register as a hippo.

My husband was just saying the other day how this is kind of keeping him from being interested in TRI'ing. He's a 6'3" 260# former D1AA lineman and mentioned that he thought he'd do really well in a TRI with a higher weight class (after he has his ankle ligaments grafted so he can run more than a mile, but that's beside the fact). As an athlete, he's pretty competitive and would feel like a failure losing to "skinny" guys despite all the "you're special the way you are, it's not about beating someone else" BS I can feed him.
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pescalita - 2007-03-14 3:19 PM I'm so glad they chose a goddess name for chicks, 'cause I might cry if I had to register as a hippo. My husband was just saying the other day how this is kind of keeping him from being interested in TRI'ing. He's a 6'3" 260# former D1AA lineman and mentioned that he thought he'd do really well in a TRI with a higher weight class (after he has his ankle ligaments grafted so he can run more than a mile, but that's beside the fact). As an athlete, he's pretty competitive and would feel like a failure losing to "skinny" guys despite all the "you're special the way you are, it's not about beating someone else" BS I can feed him.

*Note to self:  No online flirting with Pescalita.*    But seriously, I've heard many people say things similar to your husband; the whole labeling thing being intimidating.  I would encourage him to do it anyway!

 

 



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2007-03-14 3:30 PM
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kproudfoot - 2007-03-14 10:10 AM I have also seen running races with different divisions. Typically they are: Clydesdale 195 - 214 Rhino 215 - 239 Hippo 240 + Some races even have age groups within weight categores (Over/Under 40 typically).

Clyde and Rhino sound tough, but Hippo?  Couldn't they make it something more manly than that?    Maybe Dinasours or Mammoths or something.  

I've recently fallen into the Rhino ranks, but Hippos are hard core.  I don't know if they do in fact kill more than lions, tigers and crocs but if you google "hippo kills" you'll get more than a few hits about people being trampled, mauled, or bit in half.

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2007-03-14 3:37 PM
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ion the chicago triathlon's hippo class to win it you still have to run about a 9 min mile which is pretty good espcially if your 250+. going by the 2 sec rule per lbs it means you would be a 7:20 min miler at 200 and 7:00 at 180 lbs. that is pretty darn good after swiming almost a mile and biking 25 miles.


2007-03-14 4:33 PM
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At the heart of the clydes group is "give the big guys a chance to race against each other" not "let the big guys get their buts kicked by 6'7" super-athletes. It should be like 3.25 pounds per inch of height or something.
2007-03-14 5:11 PM
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pescalita - 2007-03-14 3:19 PM I'm so glad they chose a goddess name for chicks, 'cause I might cry if I had to register as a hippo. My husband was just saying the other day how this is kind of keeping him from being interested in TRI'ing. He's a 6'3" 260# former D1AA lineman and mentioned that he thought he'd do really well in a TRI with a higher weight class (after he has his ankle ligaments grafted so he can run more than a mile, but that's beside the fact). As an athlete, he's pretty competitive and would feel like a failure losing to "skinny" guys despite all the "you're special the way you are, it's not about beating someone else" BS I can feed him.

*Note to self: No online flirting with Pescalita.* But seriously, I've heard many people say things similar to your husband; the whole labeling thing being intimidating. I would encourage him to do it anyway!



LOL I'm doing my best... once the ankle is healed the real encouragement (read: nagging) begins!
2007-03-14 6:09 PM
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The Mac - 2007-03-14 11:44 AM

Just checked the participant list for this Sunday's Wildman OLY in Orlando.  There are as many Clydes registered as there are in my M 35-39 AG.  I wonder if I should just flip a coin for which division to race in.

I'm wondering if they are ever going to realize that 200lbs. is a pretty light cutoff for weight class divisions.  The CDC showed that the average weight of the American male is approximately 195lbs. for those aged 20-60.  Obviously, these are not all athletes, but still.  I find it analgous to having a height class where anyone 6'0" and up is considered in the "tall" division.  The average height of a male is 5'11" so 1 inch above average deserves a specail class?  Likewise, 5 lbs. above average derserves a special division?  Seems USAT still has their head up their arse with regards to weight divisions.

 





Good news Mac you live in a state with a GREAT series with a divistion JUST for you. It is the super clyde devision 225 and above and split between 39 and younger and 40 and over. It is the Publix Family Fitness weekend triathlon. I think there are 8 races all over FL.

Yes I know you are nailed because you are in the 39 and below but oh well
2007-03-14 6:37 PM
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think hippo is bad..

The hospital where I used to work in Cleveland had weight and size limits for their CT machines. If someone was too large.. 400+. I would give them a phone number of a place that had a larger CT machine that could accomidate them.. On day a women called that number from our waiting room to see if she could get in for her scan that day... and then freaked out on me when she found out she was calling Sea World...-------->_____________<-----insert Shamo joke here. I think she would rather have been called a hippo right about then

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2007-03-14 6:43 PM
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Gaarryy - 2007-03-14 6:37 PM

think hippo is bad..

The hospital where I used to work in Cleveland had weight and size limits for their CT machines. If someone was too large.. 400+. I would give them a phone number of a place that had a larger CT machine that could accomidate them.. On day a women called that number from our waiting room to see if she could get in for her scan that day... and then freaked out on me when she found out she was calling Sea World...-------->_____________<-----insert Shamo joke here. I think she would rather have been called a hippo right about then

Gary


Seaworld - now that's funny... Did they have her swim through a tunnel or something???


2007-03-14 6:48 PM
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I raced clyde at my first two sprints in 2005, when I was around 210-215.  One race, I was BOP in the bottom ten. A month later I was 4th out of 14. It's not about you. It's about who else shows up. Just like it always is, in the AG ranks as well. So train hard, race well, and let the FOP ---> BOP fall where it falls.
2007-03-14 7:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Clydes are taking over!
The way everything is commercialized to attract more participants, more money and more sponsors I say lets have more divisions so that we can give podium spots to everybody.
Like junior clysdales,regular clysdales,master clysdales,grand master clysdales and so forth...
also lets make age division increments less than five years and give medals to top five..
That is why the weight cutoff is 200lbs...
Joke aside who cares.. I am doing this sport because I enjoy doing it and it is my way of trying to stay healthy.I don' care which class I am racing in because I always look at the % I am in compared to overall.
And yes your subject is right."clysdales are taking over" and not only in triathlons!!!!
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The Mac - 2007-03-14 12:42 PM

pescalita - 2007-03-14 3:19 PM I'm so glad they chose a goddess name for chicks, 'cause I might cry if I had to register as a hippo. My husband was just saying the other day how this is kind of keeping him from being interested in TRI'ing. He's a 6'3" 260# former D1AA lineman and mentioned that he thought he'd do really well in a TRI with a higher weight class (after he has his ankle ligaments grafted so he can run more than a mile, but that's beside the fact). As an athlete, he's pretty competitive and would feel like a failure losing to "skinny" guys despite all the "you're special the way you are, it's not about beating someone else" BS I can feed him.

*Note to self: No online flirting with Pescalita.* But seriously, I've heard many people say things similar to your husband; the whole labeling thing being intimidating. I would encourage him to do it anyway!



LOL I'm doing my best... once the ankle is healed the real encouragement (read: nagging) begins!



No need to wait. I have trashed ankle also. That is why I am changing from Triathlons to Aquabikes until I can run again.

2007-03-14 7:51 PM
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My first sprint triathlon (1998) had a clyde cut-off of 225.  There were only 6 guys in the division.  I place third!  

The next year they dropped the clyde cut-off to 210 and there were probably 30+ people in the division.  I've raced.....uh...participated in the race 5 more times and have never come anywhere close to ever placing again!

BTW, I'm 6'3"/263 lbs.

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2007-03-14 8:26 PM
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This is a tough subject to call, but wouldn't a 6'7" super athlete be closer to a clydesdale rather than a 5'5" couch potato. I mean an actual clydesdale does not look like it has all that much fat on it.

I personally qualify for the clydesdale class but don't really consider myself one. If I train and get fit and I still qualify because my size dictates it I may reconsider.

I do however agree with "The Mac" when he says that 200 pounds seems a little light, 225 seems more appropriate. In the end I am way too new to this to ever consider getting on the podium. If I am still doing this in two years as a form of competition then my attitude may change. Until then I am just a guy who hit his mid 30s realized he was overweight and out of shape and needed a goal to stay focused.

In my opinion, anybody who competes in a triathlon is pretty bad-arse.

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