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2007-03-21 8:23 AM

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Subject: Road bike brakes

Ok, I've ridden a mountain bike forever, but a few weeks ago I got a road bike.  I love this new bike, except for one thing.  I've noticed that starting at the same speed, it now takes me 3 or 4 times as much distance to stop as it did on my mountain bike.  I feel like it's a battle to get the bike stopped at stop signs or stop lights, but I never had that problem on the old bike.  I've learned to start braking way sooner than I used to, but that's annoying because I feel like I'm losing time.  Is this normal for road bikes, and I just need to live with it?  Or does it mean these particular brakes suck?  The rim and brake pads are clean, and everything seems to be adjusted properly.  Thanks for any feedback!



2007-03-21 8:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Road bike brakes
What is the component level on the bike?  That makes a big difference ............
2007-03-21 8:32 AM
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I am also fairly new to road biking (less than 6 months) and have the same problem stopping.  I keep thinking my braks need adjusting but when I adjust them it does no good.  I think it is probably just the fact that road bikes move a little faster than mountain bikes but I don't know for sure.  I also weight about 210lbs so that might be a factor also.
2007-03-21 8:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Road bike brakes
Yes...road brakes aren't as powerful as "V" or disc brakes--the short caliper arms simply don't provide as much leverage as the long arms of "V" brakes. Braking technique is therefore much more critical on road bikes. Don't be afraid to use the front, and if you need to stop really quickly, shift your weight behind the saddle.
2007-03-21 8:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Road bike brakes
Something doesnt right. My brakes on my tri-bike and my road bike stop on a dime. What kind of brakes are they?

I have 105 brakes on both bikes. I have heard mixed reviews on Techtro calipers with Tiagra brake levers which I think is on alot of the lower end/ beginner road bikes.

You may want to try adjusting the barrel adjuster on the calipers to bring the brak pads in closer to the rims. Also, I know that on my bike, the calipers sometimes work themselves off center of the mounting post and I have to physically center them. Take a look.
2007-03-21 8:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Road bike brakes

These are just entry level Shimanos, so I know that probably makes a difference.  But, would it make that big of a difference? 

The brake pads are very close to the rims, so I don't think that's the problem.  I'll check the centering of the calipers on the posts.



2007-03-21 8:59 AM
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It does make a difference.  And brake pad compound (like tires) makes a big difference as well.  A lot of people will "upgrade" 105 and Ultegra brakes with Dura Ace pad inserts as they seem to brake a little better.

It also depends on the cable and housing for the brakes as well.  If the brake housing is long and/or very flexible it can cause the brakes to be "spongy" and the stopping power will diminish.  Think of how race car teams use braided steel brake lines in place of the factory rubber ones.  Same concept .....

2007-03-21 10:00 AM
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dursofd - 2007-03-21 9:34 AM Something doesnt right. My brakes on my tri-bike and my road bike stop on a dime. 

There will always be a big perceived difference when you go from MTB brakes to any road brakes.

2007-03-21 10:13 AM
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dursofd - 2007-03-21 9:34 AM Something doesnt right. My brakes on my tri-bike and my road bike stop on a dime.

There will always be a big perceived difference when you go from MTB brakes to any road brakes.

I agree.  I think it would be fairly difficult to "endo" a road bike with the front brake, but it is easy on a MTB.     Also braking from the hoods, you can't get as much hand leverage as you can on a flat bar lever.  You will never have the same brake feeling as you do on the MTB.  

Make sure you have newer, clean pads that are aligned right.  The pads might not be worn, but if they are a little old, the rubber can harden.   Also make sure the tension is correct on the brakes.   You should be starting to apply pressure on the rim when the brake lever is less than half way pulled.  Full pressure should not require pulling the lever all the way to the handlebar.  

 

 

 

2007-03-21 2:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Road bike brakes
Thanks for all the advice everyone!  I'll probably see if there are any easy adjustments I can do to make them work a little better, and chalk the rest up to poor components, and the difference in road bike and mountain bike brakes.
2007-03-21 3:13 PM
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Why is it that road brakes are less powerful? You'd think you'd need more powerful brakes to stop at high speed on a downhill than the relatively lower speeds of a MTB. Is it a need for modulation? Aerodynamics? Weight? Tradition/cool factor? Why not just mash some big ol linear pulls on a road bike?

Just askin'


2007-03-21 3:27 PM
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Braking time/distance gets me the first time I stop every time I'm out on my road bike. My hybrid and mountain bike have disk brakes so I'm use to stopping quickly. It makes me want disk brakes on the road bike too.
2007-03-21 3:37 PM
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dallairelj - 2007-03-21 4:13 PM Why is it that road brakes are less powerful? You'd think you'd need more powerful brakes to stop at high speed on a downhill than the relatively lower speeds of a MTB. Is it a need for modulation? Aerodynamics? Weight? Tradition/cool factor? Why not just mash some big ol linear pulls on a road bike? Just askin'

With MTBs, you have to account for very severe braking conditions, but more importantly, precise braking control. Picking your way down steep, rocky or rooted single track requires precise brake modulation. You just don't get that with the small caliper arms on road brakes. Also, on the road, you brake an awful lot less, making braking relatively more important in the dirt.

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