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2007-09-26 7:13 AM

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Subject: Paying a premiunm for convenience
I just discovered a gym 1/2 block away form my apartment.  They have a nice pool and other amenities, including a bowling alley!  I really like that it is so close to my apartment expecially since winter is just around the corner.  I currently have a membership with a gym but the nearest one is a 25 minute drive.  The monthly dues for the gym I found are $135 but this includes every family member in the household.  Are you willing to pay a premium for the convenience of being able to walk to the pool, sauna, steam bath, etc., or would you suck it up and drive 25 minutes in the crappy winter weather?


2007-09-26 7:54 AM
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I can't afford $1600 a year for gym, even it was in my basement.    But, if you can afford it and you think you will get your money's worth, then do it.    How much is the alternative?  If the other one is $40 a month and you have to drive an hour round trip and use $5 in gas each time, then maybe the difference isn't so much.  
2007-09-26 7:58 AM
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135/month for a whole family doesn't seem too bad.  Plus, you'll probably be more likely to go if it is so close to your house - there's a pretty big difference between half a block and 25 minutes.  I'm all for paying for convenience if you can afford it.
2007-09-26 8:00 AM
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tkbslc - 2007-09-26 6:54 AM I can't afford $1600 a year for gym, even it was in my basement.    But, if you can afford it and you think you will get your money's worth, then do it.    How much is the alternative?  If the other one is $40 a month and you have to drive an hour round trip and use $5 in gas each time, then maybe the difference isn't so much.  

That's what I was thinking.  How much is the round trip costing you and how many times a week are you going?  40-50 in gas plus saving you 2-3 hours of driving a week... that could be worth something.

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2007-09-26 10:51 AM
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I like to take my hourly rate (assuming you work 40 hours) and divide by 2. This gives me my hourly waking rate. So if you make $20 per hour you have a $10 per waking hour (assuming you sleep 8 hours) rate. So each trip to the gym is 50 minutes of travel versus 5 minutes. If your waking rate is $10 and you go to the gym 4 times a week for 6 months (26 weeks) your travel expense is roughly $33 per week. Times four gives you $133.33. So the premium is placed either on time or money both of which are scarce resources. For me this would be an easy call because my waking rate would make this cheaper in comparison.

 **edit for other figures**  The price of gas being approximately $2.75 a gallon and the average economy being about 22mpg you will be driving 15 more more miles each way depending on highway travel or your lead foot so that means adding about about another $4 a day times 4= 16* 4 or $64.  So if the difference is less than $64 a month it's easy... the local gym is cheaper.

and that's my .02



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2007-09-26 11:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Paying a premiunm for convenience
Christris - 2007-09-26 10:51 AM

I like to take my hourly rate (assuming you work 40 hours) and divide by 2. This gives me my hourly waking rate. So if you make $20 per hour you have a $10 per waking hour (assuming you sleep 8 hours) rate. So each trip to the gym is 50 minutes of travel versus 5 minutes. If your waking rate is $10 and you go to the gym 4 times a week for 6 months (26 weeks) your travel expense is roughly $33 per week. Times four gives you $133.33. So the premium is placed either on time or money both of which are scarce resources. For me this would be an easy call because my waking rate would make this cheaper in comparison.

 **edit for other figures**  The price of gas being approximately $2.75 a gallon and the average economy being about 22mpg you will be driving 15 more more miles each way depending on highway travel or your lead foot so that means adding about about another $4 a day times 4= 16* 4 or $64.  So if the difference is less than $64 a month it's easy... the local gym is cheaper.

and that's my .02



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2007-09-26 11:15 AM
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maybe something was lost in the translation-  assuming you work one job for 40 hours a week that is your income.  If you divide your income across your waking hours you have a base for figuring out what your free time is worth.  An example would be overtime at $20 per hour would make your free time vs. overtime a $30 per hour decision.  So if you wanted to watch TV over work it would be worth $30 an hour to you.  It's why I ship UPS.  My waking rate determines that the post office with a 20 minute travel (each way) is more expensive to me than the difference between UPS and the USPS. 

still it's my .02 

2007-09-26 11:19 AM
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Christris - 2007-09-26 12:15 PM

still it's my .02 

That's like $1!  Good stuff man.

2007-09-26 11:21 AM
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Life is too short to spend that much time driving when you don't have to.

I'd join the new gym in a second.
2007-09-26 11:29 AM
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Probably doesn't need said but...

Check your contract with your current gym. Cancellation Fee?

Check with the new gym. Is the monthly fee promotional? If so, what is the normal fee? Sign-up and initiation fees?
2007-09-26 12:24 PM
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I pay a premium for the gym I belong to. I really only use it to swim, but it is always open and I can get in after work at 130 in the AM. Finding a place to swim that fit my schedule was really difficult until this place opened. I can swim at night and not have it interfere with family commitments. Paying a little more is worth it in my case. 

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2007-09-26 12:39 PM
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Let's just carry ChrisTris in our pocket so he can do all of these cost manangment calculations for us. Good Stuff, Chris.
2007-09-26 4:27 PM
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Christris - 2007-09-26 11:15 AM

maybe something was lost in the translation-  assuming you work one job for 40 hours a week that is your income.  If you divide your income across your waking hours you have a base for figuring out what your free time is worth.  An example would be overtime at $20 per hour would make your free time vs. overtime a $30 per hour decision.  So if you wanted to watch TV over work it would be worth $30 an hour to you.  It's why I ship UPS.  My waking rate determines that the post office with a 20 minute travel (each way) is more expensive to me than the difference between UPS and the USPS. 

still it's my .02 



Well ... I don't know if I agree with this. I would say you should divide your income by the number of hours you work. I work about 45-50 a week, so for the sake of ease let's just say I work 50. I divide my salary by 50 hours and come up with a round number.

I would think THAT is what my time is worth, per hour, based on market value, otherwise if you spread your daily salary out over 24 hours your time doesn't seem like it's worth much.

Well anyway I pay a ridiculous amount to belong to a great gym. And I think it's worth it. All things are relative to what you believe your time is worth.

Edited by mr2tony 2007-09-26 4:27 PM
2007-09-26 4:27 PM
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Assuming my bills are paid and my retirement is being funded, if I have the money and I want something, I buy it and I don't feel one bit guilty about it.  This is why we work and earn money.  To live and hopefully finance some enjoyment whenever possible..... so if you can afford it, why the heck not make things easier and more convenient as a reward for working out so hard and doing something that is great for you?  Enjoy!

2007-09-26 4:33 PM
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totally - my father in law gives me grief on a regular basis...
I pay someone to close my pool in the fall and probably pay close to $200 an hour to the pool guy....

however what he does in 90 mins would probably take me twice as long which means a half day wasted on the pool....

cheap to me...

2007-09-26 6:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Paying a premiunm for convenience
After driving to the gym this evening and getting caught in traffic because there were 3 accidents I've decided to join the new club.  My lady and I were discussing adding her on to my current membership and by time we add it up it could cost as much if not more with gas, dues, etc.  Thanks for the input fronm every one.


2007-09-26 9:24 PM
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Don't underestimate the value of convenience. Which is a better value - an expensive gym you use all the time, or a cheap one you don't go to? Also, you will be able to time your usage to avoid peak hours, thus getting more bang for your buck.

My gym is about 1/2 mile from my workplace. I wear it out.

(but then, what do I know? I buy pre-grated cheese and pay someone else to change my oil



Edited by tim_edwards 2007-09-26 9:24 PM
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