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2009-08-10 2:35 PM

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Subject: Race organization - best and worst
I completed 2 century rides in the past 2 weeks and the contrast in organization was amazing. The first was the pinnacle of well organized rides while the second was quite poor. As a result, I sent a message to the organizers diplomatically making suggestions. Well, as a result I've been asked to be part of the planning committee for next year's event.

So I come to you asking about details of well-organized and poorly-organized events that you've experienced. I would truly appreciate to know some of the details that really made a difference - good or bad - for your race or ride experience.

-Kirk



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2009-08-10 2:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Race organization - best and worst
Century rides - I only need

Arrows at the turns or some sort of removeable road marking
Drink at the SAG stops. Calories in the way of cookies, fruit, that sort of thing
Que Sheet in case I go off course

If the price tage is more than 30 bucks...I kinda of except

1. souvenir - pint glass / t-shrit that sort of thing
2. Post ride meal - Pasta, cokes, cookies
3. Better variety of aid stations food and drink.

I bring my own calories but the must haves are for the rides at or around 20 bucks....
2009-08-10 3:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Race organization - best and worst
Hafta haves:
Well-marked turns
Cue sheet distributed in advance of the event
At least 3-4 rest stops with food, water, sports drinks, and bathrooms.
SAG wagon
Medical staff on site at each rest stop
Safe route on decent roads with either bike lanes or wide shoulders
Baggage drop service

Niceta Haves:
Meal at the finish line, preferably with beer.
Showers
Massage
Transportation for me and my bike back to starting line if not an out-and-back
Mechanical services at rest stops
T-shirt or other swag
2009-08-11 12:01 AM
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Worst race of my three years in racing...

Nike Human Race 10K Austin, TX             31 August 2008    6 or 7pm

- 15,000+ runners in Austin
- No port-a-johns (imagine the lines at starbucks)
- I watched a woman at the first aid tent ask for water before the race. She was really red and sweating profusely (it was about 75 degrees at dusk). The volunteer said, "Sorry, we were told not to hand out water and after the race has started."
-After you finish the course, they hand you a commemorative bracelet (woo hoo!). Then you stop for the volunteer to take off your chip. Walk 20 feet, receive a towel (woo hoo!). Walk 20 feet, receive water (FINALLY!). Post race snack: warm yogurt with granola.

15,000 participants is not considered a bad point, just a fact to get a better idea of the race. All the red shirts made us look like a Chinese invasion.
2009-08-11 6:15 AM
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A few things off the top of my head from working on race committees:

  • Start early recruiting plenty of volunteers. Make sure they are properly trained.
  • Check-in is typically a choke point.  Have signs to direct participants and plenty of volunteers to help.
  • Have a medical tent staffed with qualified volunteers to address most common needs: blisters, strains, etc.  Coordinate with local EMT's to be on notice for more serious problems (some local authorities may require EMTs to be on site).
  • Coordinate with local authorities to insure course safety, especially if sharing the roads with public traffic.  Have traffic control at potentially dangerous intersections.
  • Instruct volunteers to be nice & smile. 

Mark

 

 

2009-08-11 10:43 AM
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Thanks to everyone for the great ideas! The organizing committee will start meeting in January, but I plan to write all of these ideas down now along with my own observations. Can't start too early, right??

Please keep 'em coming! Any must-haves, nice-to-haves, and horror stories are VERY welcome!!

-Kirk



2009-08-11 10:51 AM
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For a century you HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE TO make sure the turns are marked well.  I recently did a ride where one turn was not marked well---possibility is that some locals messed with signs---and LOTS of people went the wrong way.  Not good.  IF the local area will allow spray paint on the road, then that would be my suggestion on marking turns. People, wind, vehicles, other cyclists, animals cannot bump, move, or change which way the arrow is pointing if it is clearly spray painted on the ground. 

Other than the sign mess up, the ride went great.  Positive points were:
- Organized packet pick up the morning of the ride
- Started on time after the National Anthem
- Good aid stations
- Good volunteers
- Nice t-shirt
- Commerative pin
- Water Bottle
- Post ride meal
- Plenty of porta potties at the start
- Ride marshals that did a good job of keeping cyclists doing the right thing

2009-08-11 10:52 AM
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For course markers, I've seen lots of creative ideas, most of which suck.  The best I've seen so far are small signs - the same kind they use for campaign signs.  They're pretty cheap, re-usable, you can get bright colors, and you can't miss them.

For the pre-race information, whether it's via email or web site, give a lot of information.  People don't have to read it all (put the important things in a section at the beginning), but some will want to.

If it's a century, and you have permission, also go with small painted markers on the roads.  Those last yearl-round, and are useful for all cyclists in the area; I've found some nice routes by following those things. 

2009-08-11 10:55 AM
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More great ideas! Thank you!

People have mentioned post-ride meals - what types of food would you expect? The last one I did had burgers and hot dogs, which was fine, but there was no carbohydrate foods. I was hoping for pasta or mac-n-cheese. Any other ideas on what you would like to see at the end of a century ride?

2009-08-11 11:33 AM
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A lot of good points made by other posters. Rest stop planning will make or break a ride from my experience. I have seen some well managed ones and some real poorly managed ones.

Key Points:

Make sure rest stops are well supplied and have a plan to resupply when needed. I have been on rides where the first rest stop was before the split of the various distances so included all the riders and it ran out of food and drink by the time the slower ridrs arrived. This made for some very unhappy riders that may not come back. From what I heard it took too long to re-supply. Make sure you have enough people staffing the rest stops. Plan on providing ice for cold drinks for all the rest stops especially the ones later in the ride. Hot gatoraid at the last rest stop will leave a bad taste in a riders mouth and bad memories of the event.

Have people driving the course to monitor what is going on with the riders and have a plan to communicate what is happening. Best to have drivers cover a small section of the course repeatedly until all the riders have cleared that section. Then have others that can be called to help if a rider needs a lift back to the start otherwise a section of the course could go un monitored for a long period of time. Also communicate to rest stops when all riders have cleared. so the it can be packed up and supplies relocated.

Be sure to have some cold drinks and some food at the end of the ride. I have been on a couple rides where there was nothing and it left a lasting bad impersion of those rides.

I suggest have riders check in when they return so it will be easier to keep track that everyone is accounted for and not left out there lost.

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