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Subject: Distance vs Time

My training schedule calls for me to train for a certain time each session as opposed to distance.  Is this common?  I think when i train for time I go easier when I train for distance I go faster to get it over with....

 

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2008-08-28 1:55 PM
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Yes, it's very common. And there are pros and cons both ways. Pick one and go with it.
2008-08-28 2:45 PM
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I go with time (and HR within time) for biking because there are so many day to day variables (e.g. wind) that affect speed and therefore distance. For running I go mostly by distance as there are less variables and it makes sense if you are doing intervals. For swimming, it is totally distance. I am not even sure how long my swim sessions take. I usually just put one hour unless it is over 4k yards.

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2008-08-28 3:07 PM
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I'm having more luck with time based work outs than I ever had with distance based ones.

 This year and next year I'm going to do time based stuff.  I might worry about changing things after I get a couple HIMs under my belt but not before.

2008-08-28 3:53 PM
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I like time better because you don't have to worry about measuring a particular course (I don't have a Garmin). You can just go wherever you want, and not have to worry about whether the course is long (or short) enough.

Also, if you are training on a difficult course in difficult conditions, you may slow down but still have the same amount of effort put into your workout. Time allows you to go by effort more than distance does.

The only con with going by time is that all races are measured in distance- knowing the distances you are training gives you more confidence when you are racing.
2008-08-28 3:59 PM
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I train by time for the bike and run, and the swim is distance.

However, after a while, I found they are pretty related, so it makes little difference (ONLY if you are disciplined enough to not cheat yourself).

For example, if I have a 60 minute Z2 run, I know that I will be getting 6 miles in (including a slow WU and CD).  I'm easily within 5% of that as long as I'm working as hard as I'm supposed to.

I know that my swim times are 2:00/100 or less (including rest breaks and WU/CD)  So if the plan calls for 3000 yards - I plan on an hour.  I'm almost always 1 or 2 minutes away from that.

So either method is fine as lone as you don't cheat yourself by slacking...



2008-08-28 7:28 PM
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Your body knows time; it does not know distance. Aside from the swim, most training is done by time.

You should not be going easy or hard based on wanting to get the workout done quickly or wanting to fill the time, there should be specific goals for each session. Those goals will indicate the intensity.

2008-08-28 7:36 PM
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LeftRightRepeat - 2008-08-28 11:55 AM Yes, it's very common. And there are pros and cons both ways. Pick one and go with it.

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My coach has me doing distance. Harder to measure rate vs effort when your going by time, unless you do gps. That's not to say anything inherently wrong with time based training. Just a different philosophy. It certainly makes scheduling easier.

2008-08-28 7:50 PM
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I always have targetted distance during swim workouts because it is so much easier to count the distance than having to keep looking at the real clock (unfortunately, i wear glasses and goggles are not making it easier to see clearly).

 During run workouts, it definitely helps to put a number on the distance, since I can count it around the track, and keep track my avg mpm pace time. However, if for some reason, there's an indefinite paths and trails around that you run once in a while (which I do at my campus), I just put a minimum time to run (say 2 hrs min). Same applies for my bike sessions since I don't have any gadgets that can count distance for me.

It definitely depends on what comes easier and/or convenient to you, either counting a definite distance or definite time. On the plus side, I know that office workers near Embarcadero in san francisco usually run along the bay during lunch breaks and they have limited time. However, they do keep the pace and same intensity as they would if they were doing distanced.

2008-08-28 7:57 PM
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Train by time.  Your body only knows time; i.e. how long it has been working at a specific intensity.  Your body doesn't know or care how far you've run or biked or swam.  Training by time also compensates for differing environmental conditions.  For example, if you ride 20 miles in windless conditions it might take you 1 hour.  Whereas, riding 20 miles in 25 mph headwind might take you 1.5 hours.  In the later case you spent more time working harder.  This might not fit into your training plan. 

Another reason to trian by time is that time is easier to schedule into your daily, weekly, monthly routine than distance.

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2008-08-28 8:06 PM
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As someone said, as time goes by, I learned how much distance I would do in X amount of time give or take. (this was helpful when I was away last week and had no idea how far I ran).

However, when first starting out or when I moved from a sprint to an oly, distance was important because I wanted to make sure I could cover the distance of a race. I'm not fast so my time is considerably longer for distances that some can complete in much faster times. So I needed to make sure my body could handle that time needed to complete the distance.



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Thaitri - 2008-08-28 1:50 PM

My training schedule calls for me to train for a certain time each session as opposed to distance.  Is this common?  I think when i train for time I go easier when I train for distance I go faster to get it over with....

 

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Are you going long? One reason for doing time is to actually get people to train in the HR zone specified for the workout instead of just going faster to get it over with. You don't get a good zone two workout if you spend your time in zone three.......
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