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2009-07-27 5:08 PM

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Subject: Hill Training

Concerning most things that say "Hill Training".  Most say ride hills....great idea.  My question is this concerning my options and if 1 is better than another.  I can ride

A) hill intervals on a 3-5% grade 1 mile up and 1 mile down over and over or

B)I can ride uphill for 5-7 miles and come back down hill 5-7 miles or

C) I can ride 5 down 2 up then 2 down and 5 up. 

Now this is concerning just a little 14 mile hill training ride,  but most of my rides are up (mostly) 1 way and down the other in the 20 mile range.  So is any one better than the other or does it not matter a bit?



2009-07-27 5:30 PM
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Doesn't matter.  Ride 'em all.  You can do repeats up the one mile altering how you ride them (i.e., do 5, 1 easy, 2 :40 seated/:20 standing, 3 at a low cadence (larger gear), etc....)  and you can ride the 5-7 miler steady with surges or just steady.  It will all help

ETA - in Henderson you have no shortage of hills! 

2009-07-27 5:33 PM
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It really depends what type of workout you're looking for as each of these different hill types can be used for different purposes. In my mind I would use (A) for anaerobic endurance or power workout where I'd be doing more brief, higher intensity intervals with recovery in between as you spin down. For (B) and (C) I view those types of hills as better suited to training muscular endurance by riding in saddle at a decent cadence for longer periods of time.

Just how I'd view these choices as a self-coached MOP AG athlete who has read Triathlete's Training Bible a few too many times. 

2009-07-27 6:02 PM
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saling4 - 2009-07-27 4:08 PM
So is any one better than the other or does it not matter a bit?


My answer would be "none of the above". If you live in a very hilly area, then you don't need to do hill repeats. Just ride routes that contain a bunch of climbing and be thankful.
2009-07-27 6:27 PM
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ChrisM - 2009-07-27 6:30 PM

Doesn't matter.  Ride 'em all.  You can do repeats up the one mile altering how you ride them (i.e., do 5, 1 easy, 2 :40 seated/:20 standing, 3 at a low cadence (larger gear), etc....)  and you can ride the 5-7 miler steady with surges or just steady.  It will all help

ETA - in Henderson you have no shortage of hills! 



That's how I look at it.  Why TRY for hill training when I simply can't find a flat route in which to ride.  All rides are hill training.
2009-07-27 7:16 PM
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I do both, but focus on the shorter intervals because that's what my races are like. My races are usually loops with hills in them, not one long hill, though we have those races too. And sometimes I just ride uphill because the view is beautiful on the top of a mountain. But for training, it's the shorter interval hill workouts.



2009-07-27 8:28 PM
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Thanks gentlemen and Lady.  I was kind of thinking that every day is hill training for me,  but I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be doing something specific.  I think I will do the mile hill as an interval once a month and do the infamous "Ride More".  I have been slacking in the bke and swim and concentrating on the run.  However I decided (sort of) to do a century in Oct and I am already signed up for a Mary in Dec.  So I am trying to get back in the saddle.

2009-07-28 9:35 AM
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saling4 - 2009-07-27 4:08 PM
So is any one better than the other or does it not matter a bit?


My answer would be "none of the above". If you live in a very hilly area, then you don't need to do hill repeats. Just ride routes that contain a bunch of climbing and be thankful.


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2009-07-28 7:30 PM
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Okay I am convinced and I will apply the same thinking to my run.  Just run and maybe do the 1 mile hill interval now and again.

2009-07-28 8:54 PM
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saling4 - 2009-07-28 8:30 PM

Okay I am convinced and I will apply the same thinking to my run.  Just run and maybe do the 1 mile hill interval now and again.



I just have a Schwinn 14 speed road bike and I've been riding 18-22 mile hill rides 3 times a week.  At first I was just trying to get enough endurance to keep my heart rate from being pegged above 90% the entire time.  Now, I monitor the hills to see if I can make it further up the hill before I set off the beeping of my HRM and if I can increase my mph by at at least .5 mph.  Tonight I was very surprised at how much easier two of the hills seemed.  I ended up having a chain pop off so I had to stop and fix it but even with that, my time from last week was almost exactly the same.  My max and average heart rate was lower. 

Hills are there to make you better.  I'm pretty sure that's why Al Gore invented them.
2009-07-28 9:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Hill Training
I do most of hill training on my MTB at local ski hill.  18 - 22 percent grade for about 1/4 mile.  Sometimes do sprints to prepare for fast starts, which is typical in mountain bike races and other times just work on climbing power.  

I also try to run them but come close to cardiac arrest after the second try.   


2009-07-28 9:37 PM
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18-22%  OMG....I don't think Al Gore invented that steep a grade...LOL. 

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