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2008-10-30 7:50 PM

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Subject: Would you buy this?
I've been looking for a indoor trainer. It sounds like the CycleOps Fluid is one of the better/cheaper options. Found this on ebay. It's a 3-4 yr old fluid $85 with shipping. Would you do it? Don't worry I won't cry if one of you out bid me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CYCLEOPS-Fluid-2-Bike-Trainer-Cycle-Ops-NR_W0QQ...

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2008-10-30 7:55 PM
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I'm not a fan of fluid, but if the price stays reasonable, that would be a good one.

But the fact that the seller is not sure which one it is raises a question ......... looking at the pic. it does look like a fuid though.

2008-10-30 8:21 PM
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Daremo - 2008-10-30 8:55 PM

I'm not a fan of fluid, but if the price stays reasonable, that would be a good one.

Why not? I always heard from folks on here that the fluid is better because the feel simulates the feel of the road the best. I'm not a good cyclist, so it doesn't make a difference to me - I got a cheap fluid trainer from Nashbar. Just curious, since basically everyone said fluid was the way to go.

2008-10-31 4:53 AM
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Hey for that price if your a fan of fluid or not it is a bargin. 

 

2008-10-31 8:31 AM
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You can't simulate the feel of the road on the trainer.

The closest thing to doing that??  A $1,500+ Computrainer (which is well worth the money in my opinion).

I've never been a fan of fluid because it is progressive resistance, which is NOT true to road feel.  As you work harder, the resistance is exponentially harder.  Which means you end up working harder than you actually would on the road.  Great for a trainer?  Sure, it you are looking to get a hard workout in a short time.

But everyone should use what they feel the most comfortable with.

2008-10-31 8:43 AM
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2008-10-31 1:43 PM
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FWIW, I like mine for days when I cannot go outside for a ride
2008-10-31 3:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Would you buy this?
i would be cautious buying an ebay fluid trainer.  One of the weaknesses of fluid trainers is that the seals deteriorate and they start leaking with age.  Since it is an ebay auction (you can't inspect it) and the thing is 3-4 years old I wouldn't trust it.
2008-10-31 3:56 PM
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Vortmax is right.

The older they get the more likely they'll leak. This happend to me. I still like the fluid trainers, especially since I live near the north pole.

85 bucks is a steal though. I paid 250 for mine.

2008-10-31 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Would you buy this?
Ask the question again in three days. There is still a lot of time for the price to climb. When you factor in shipping I probably wouldn't pay a whole lot more for it. With Ebay you always have to factor something into the price because of the unknowns.
2008-10-31 9:48 PM
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I like my fluid trainer, but to suggest that it is a good approximation to road conditions is like saying that veggie burgers are a good approximation to steak.  I like veggie burgers, but you won't fool me into thinking that one of them is a piece of steak.



2008-10-31 10:42 PM
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Daremo - 2008-10-31 9:31 AM

You can't simulate the feel of the road on the trainer.

The closest thing to doing that??  A $1,500+ Computrainer (which is well worth the money in my opinion).

I've never been a fan of fluid because it is progressive resistance, which is NOT true to road feel.  As you work harder, the resistance is exponentially harder.  Which means you end up working harder than you actually would on the road.  Great for a trainer?  Sure, it you are looking to get a hard workout in a short time.

But everyone should use what they feel the most comfortable with.

 

well that explains why when I am out on the road I am almost exclusively in the big ring and on the trainer, in bike class, I am RARELY not in the small ring!

 

hooking up the computrainer this weekend - after tomorrow's outdoor TT -  excited about another tool to play with!

2008-11-01 6:41 AM
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vortmax - 2008-10-31 4:49 PM i would be cautious buying an ebay fluid trainer.  One of the weaknesses of fluid trainers is that the seals deteriorate and they start leaking with age.  Since it is an ebay auction (you can't inspect it) and the thing is 3-4 years old I wouldn't trust it.

Not if it's one of Kurt Kinetic models. Sealed fluid chamber = leakPROOF. No seals or seams. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a used Kurt Road Machine.

 

2008-11-01 4:46 PM
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Daremo - 2008-10-31 8:31 AM

  As you work harder, the resistance is exponentially harder.  Which means you end up working harder than you actually would on the road. 



The forces on a rider actually increase exponentially, very similar to what happens on the road: http://www.analyticcycling.com/ForcesPower_Page.html

The Kurt Kinetic has a very realistic (true to road) power curve: http://www.kurtkinetic.com/powercurve.php

2008-11-01 6:40 PM
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lrobb - 2008-11-01 5:46 PM  The forces on a rider actually increase exponentially, very similar to what happens on the road: http://www.analyticcycling.com/ForcesPower_Page.htmlThe Kurt Kinetic has a very realistic (true to road) power curve: http://www.kurtkinetic.com/powercurve.php

Yes, they do, but not in the same fashion as a trainer.

Again, get on a fluid trainer, ride it with accelerations.  Go outside, ride the same sort of accelerations.  Huge difference.

2008-11-02 3:58 AM
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Well, I can't speak to all fluid trainers, but I've been riding the Kurt Kinetic for the last 3 years, doing approximately 2/3rds of all my riding on it (including microburst intervals & sprints), and the difference between it and outdoor riding, in my perception, is negligible. Perhaps it's the 6lb flywheel they use. Their data shows only a small power difference: http://www.kurtkinetic.com/documents/Power_Curves419.pdf



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