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2006-08-14 11:05 AM

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The Times August 10, 2006

Western values 'are causing mental illness'
From Leo Lewis in Tokyo


THE rapid spread of Western business practices in Japan has caused widespread mental illness and is responsible for a deepening demographic crisis, government officials say.

Statistics indicate that 60 per cent of workers suffer from “high anxiety” and that 65 per cent of companies report soaring levels of mental illness.

Meanwhile, the size of the Japanese population is shrinking, and for the first time the Government has acknowledged that the falling birth rate is linked to job-related factors. Directors of the Japanese Mental Health Institute blame the same factors for rising levels of depression among workers and the country’s suicide rate, which remains the highest among rich nations.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2305849,00.html


2006-08-14 11:28 AM
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And that's just the western work values.  Wait 'til the western "family values" spreads...then we'll really see some mental illness.

 

2006-08-14 11:29 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure 60 hour work weeks and cramming into 100sqft of real estate per capita causes more anxiety than did the mostly agrarian society in Japan prior to the 1950s or so.
2006-08-14 11:35 AM
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I find this odd since it wasn't that long ago that all US businesses were touting the "Japanese" business model as superior to ours.
Could be that the Japanese corporate world has begun to limit the amount of Nikka one is allowed to consume during lunch. Or perhaps it's all the net surfing and internet porn taking it's toll.
I'm sure they could all benefit by subscribing to BT.
2006-08-14 11:42 AM
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Or is/did mental illness cause the spread of Western values? 

Discuss....

 

2006-08-14 12:59 PM
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Hey, we buried the Soviets this way, why not use it against the Japanese? It's all a plot, put on by the current administration. See, they didn't tell anyone this, but I just KNOW they built some machine to go back in time to bring this about. Because that's what they do, you know. It's all a sign of our imperialistic capitalism.

Right?


2006-08-14 1:15 PM
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2006-08-14 1:35 PM
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Gdub ain't that subtle.
2006-08-14 1:38 PM
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tmwelshy - 2006-08-14 2:35 PM

Gdub ain't that subtle.


Oh, but I think certain elements of the administration are........ C'mon, totally feasible, considering some of the other things I've seen our country get blamed for.
2006-08-14 1:55 PM
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The problem is that the Japanese take Western work values seriously. Here in the West, we all *say* we work hard, then we turn around and continue to surf the 'net.
2006-08-14 1:59 PM
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Scout7 - 2006-08-14 2:38 PM

tmwelshy - 2006-08-14 2:35 PM

Gdub ain't that subtle.


Oh, but I think certain elements of the administration are........ C'mon, totally feasible, considering some of the other things I've seen our country get blamed for.


Tempting.... tempting. Ok, I'll bite: What other things have the US been blamed for (presumably unjustifiably)?

Let's forget for a moment that the West includes all of North America, Europe, Australia (from a cultural standpoint) and broad swaths of South America.


2006-08-14 2:06 PM
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Opus - 2006-08-14 2:59 PM

Scout7 - 2006-08-14 2:38 PM

tmwelshy - 2006-08-14 2:35 PM

Gdub ain't that subtle.


Oh, but I think certain elements of the administration are........ C'mon, totally feasible, considering some of the other things I've seen our country get blamed for.


Tempting.... tempting. Ok, I'll bite: What other things have the US been blamed for (presumably unjustifiably)?

Let's forget for a moment that the West includes all of North America, Europe, Australia (from a cultural standpoint) and broad swaths of South America.


I never made a differentiation between justifiable or otherwise. However, I was thinking along the lines of saying that the current administration was responsible for firing missles at the Pentagon, or that we are the ones responsible for the planes flying into the WTC. I don't mean responsible in a geopolitical sense, I mean directly responsible.
2006-08-14 2:24 PM
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Scout7 - 2006-08-14 3:06 PM

I never made a differentiation between justifiable or otherwise. However, I was thinking along the lines of saying that the current administration was responsible for firing missles at the Pentagon, or that we are the ones responsible for the planes flying into the WTC. I don't mean responsible in a geopolitical sense, I mean directly responsible.


Oh yeah, you mean the kooks.
2006-08-14 2:28 PM
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Opus - 2006-08-14 1:24 PM
Scout7 - 2006-08-14 3:06 PM I never made a differentiation between justifiable or otherwise. However, I was thinking along the lines of saying that the current administration was responsible for firing missles at the Pentagon, or that we are the ones responsible for the planes flying into the WTC. I don't mean responsible in a geopolitical sense, I mean directly responsible.
Oh yeah, you mean the kooks.

 

What do the Canadians have to do with anything?

2006-08-14 2:38 PM
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I think we just have to get them all on BT. It will help them stress about less and more about what Bear thinks about the bike not being red and other high priority thoughts we usually share!

2006-08-14 3:05 PM
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Another example of raw data being misread, labelled as "statistics" and then used to back up a pre-conceived notion. It's too bad, the Times doesn't usually act like a tabloid.

Just reading that article it's clear that a) there's a whole lot more and at the same time some much more specific things, going on than "Western Values causing mental Illness" and b) if anything, it's the shift from one set of rules to another in a specific cultural environment that's causing distress, not "Western Values".

Spain and Greece basically shut down every afternoon for naps. That's a "Western Value" too. 



2006-08-14 3:08 PM
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i want to move to spain. yawn.
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