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![]() So I had my first full body massage yesterday. I've had 30 min deep tissue massages for specific issues like achilles or IT band before but this time I went for an hour long full body massage. I didn't know what to expect but when she started working on my face and in my ears I thought I might crack up. How do you relax with someone poking and stretching your face? That didn't take too long though and everything after that was fine until the very end when she started karate chopping and slapping me from top to bottom! Then she just kind of stood over me for a minute and I kept thinking what the heck? Are we finished or what? So is that typical for a full body or is that a specific kind of massage? The online description just says they use a combo of different types of techniques. I have to say, my aches and pains really feel much better today but I'm very lethargic and I wonder if it is in part due to the massage. I am afraid to workout today because I feel like I will void all of her hard work. Do you usually workout the next day? Maybe just an easy 30 min spin on the bike and easy run? |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've only had a couple of full body massages and they were similar to what you described. I remember they even massaged my hands and fingers cracking all my knuckles. It was weird, but felt good. ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I get a massage every 2 weeks. It's a deep tissue/ART/sports massage. It is NOT relaxing. Sounds like you got the typical "fluff and buff" Swedish massage. That's a more relaxing sort of massage meant to get blood flow moving. It does not really get in deep and release the tightness of the muscle. To do this requires some (sometimes) painful manipulation. So the answer you last question I don't think she/he got deep enough to really loosen up anything that would be "undone" by a workout. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() trigal38 - 2012-09-14 10:01 AM . . .and slapping me from top to bottom! I pay extra for this.
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![]() TriRSquared - 2012-09-14 9:09 AM I get a massage every 2 weeks. It's a deep tissue/ART/sports massage. It is NOT relaxing. Sounds like you got the typical "fluff and buff" Swedish massage. That's a more relaxing sort of massage meant to get blood flow moving. It does not really get in deep and release the tightness of the muscle. To do this requires some (sometimes) painful manipulation. So the answer you last question I don't think she/he got deep enough to really loosen up anything that would be "undone" by a workout. This is where I think it was really a combo because she tried to work a knot out of my shoulder. I could hear her sort of holding her breath from the effort and I was seriously almost in tears but just laid there trying not to cry! Yes, very painful on my suck it up and take it deep tissue/ART scale. |
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![]() Goosedog - 2012-09-14 9:13 AM trigal38 - 2012-09-14 10:01 AM . . .and slapping me from top to bottom! I pay extra for this.
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've had full body sports massages (deep tissue) and she (the massage therapist) usually ends with some work on my neck/face. The therapist recommends drinking a lot of fluid for the next 24 hours and it isn't uncommon to run a low fever as your body is flushing the stuff knocked loose from the massage. Go ahead and work out as much as you feel like doing. You won't "undo" the massage. If you do deep tissue massages, do them well ahead of a race or key, hard workout as your body needs time to adapt to the change introduced by the massage. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() There are so many different types of massage out there, and each therapist will usually integrate a variety of styles into their sessions. As such, it is imperative to find a therapist that you like in terms of their style. The only places that have set 'routines' as such tend to be the spa environments, and it doesn't sound like this was that deal, but more the therapists interpretation of what you wanted or perhaps he/she was just not good at meeting your needs. Did you discuss during the intake what you were looking for? Did you even know what you were looking for? As for the techniques it seems the therapist used during the session you described I can try and shed some light on them (I'm a massage therapist, by the way): - face massage is a typical part of a full body swedish massage. It can feel very relaxing. There are a ton of muscles in your face and people that suffer from headaches can greatly benefit from this work. I tend to not do it in a full body unless people ask me because some people don't like it (I do almost always do scalp massage for a few minutes because the muscles in the neck tie in up there and it can relieve a lot of upper body tension, which is many people's problem area). If you didn't enjoy it, I would say next time to specify no face work. - The 'karate chopping' and 'slapping' is called tapotement. It's a common technique in swedish style massage and it can be very beneficial in either invigorating the tissue (done for short periods of time) or sedating it (longer periods of time). It brings blood flow to the area quickly, which is one of the ways we effect change in tissue. It shouldn't so much hurt or sting, I've always thought that tapotement felt quite nice in fact. - Standing over you doing nothing: no idea what this was, but I am thinking she incorporated some kind of energy work? It is always my thought that energy work (if one even believes in it) should only be used on a client if they are aware of it and into it. If I went in for a full body session and someone did energy work on me without asking, as someone who doesn't feel energy I woud be pissed (I wouldn't say I don't believe in the theory of it, just that I don't think it works on me or I am sensitive to it...lol I sound like a hippy but thats what happens when you go to massage school) The lethargy you're feeling could just be that you're feeling the lack of tension in your muscles. Give a workout a try, but take it easy so no intense speed sessions or anything. I think once you work out you'll feel pretty great. I always have the best workouts when I'm loose. K. Edited by Kimmyt 2012-09-14 10:23 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It isn't anything unusual. But if that's not what you want out of a massage then you either need to communicate that to the LMT or find a different LMT that gives you what you want. I kinda hate having my face/neck worked on. Most LMTs I have know this and either minimize the amount spent on that or just skip it entirely. Most of the ones I've had also do some kind of way to conclude the massage...be it something similar to the chopping you talked about or light gentle pressure on the back (maybe that's what she was doing when standing over you and you just didn't feel it?). They aren't just going to go from digging into a muscle to "okay you're done" without some kind of transition. Finding an LMT is a lot harder than it sounds. Best bet is to find other athletes in the area and ask them who they go to. That's pretty much how I've found my last three (I move a lot). I go in and make sure they know I'm looking for deep tissue work since this is a sports and injury prevention endeavor for me. I've never had a problem with it. And massages are anything but relaxing for me. I end up saying "ow" a lot and often writhing in pain on the table. But I swear they have kept me injury free.... |
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![]() Kimmyt - 2012-09-14 10:22 AM There are so many different types of massage out there, and each therapist will usually integrate a variety of styles into their sessions. As such, it is imperative to find a therapist that you like in terms of their style. The only places that have set 'routines' as such tend to be the spa environments, and it doesn't sound like this was that deal, but more the therapists interpretation of what you wanted or perhaps he/she was just not good at meeting your needs. Did you discuss during the intake what you were looking for? Did you even know what you were looking for? As for the techniques it seems the therapist used during the session you described I can try and shed some light on them (I'm a massage therapist, by the way): - face massage is a typical part of a full body swedish massage. It can feel very relaxing. There are a ton of muscles in your face and people that suffer from headaches can greatly benefit from this work. I tend to not do it in a full body unless people ask me because some people don't like it (I do almost always do scalp massage for a few minutes because the muscles in the neck tie in up there and it can relieve a lot of upper body tension, which is many people's problem area). If you didn't enjoy it, I would say next time to specify no face work. - The 'karate chopping' and 'slapping' is called tapotement. It's a common technique in swedish style massage and it can be very beneficial in either invigorating the tissue (done for short periods of time) or sedating it (longer periods of time). It brings blood flow to the area quickly, which is one of the ways we effect change in tissue. It shouldn't so much hurt or sting, I've always thought that tapotement felt quite nice in fact. - Standing over you doing nothing: no idea what this was, but I am thinking she incorporated some kind of energy work? It is always my thought that energy work (if one even believes in it) should only be used on a client if they are aware of it and into it. If I went in for a full body session and someone did energy work on me without asking, as someone who doesn't feel energy I woud be pissed (I wouldn't say I don't believe in the theory of it, just that I don't think it works on me or I am sensitive to it...lol I sound like a hippy but thats what happens when you go to massage school) The lethargy you're feeling could just be that you're feeling the lack of tension in your muscles. Give a workout a try, but take it easy so no intense speed sessions or anything. I think once you work out you'll feel pretty great. I always have the best workouts when I'm loose. K. Thanks for this reply. The therapist talked about the face and scalp - that it was part of the full body if I wanted it. I said sure but didn't really know what to expect I guess. I'm not sure if I like it or not! I have too much hair so she kept having to work it out of the way and then it was really a mess after
The tapotement I was not expecting but it was a short period of time like you described and did not sting or anything. The end might have been energy work - I'm not sure. I guess she kind of swished her hand or fingers over my back very very lightly if I remember right.
All said, I feel really good today so thumbs up! My back feels better than it has in a long time, and my feet and achilles didn't hurt during or after my run. I'll go back! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I know an former Olympian (crew) who stated that massages were part of their regimen, but actually limited to one/week for the full-blown sports massage.
Another possibility is that your body really likes to slow down once it thinks you are taking the time to rest. |
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Queen BTich ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dodgersmom - 2012-09-14 10:20 AM LMAO!!! This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the title & first post!! Cannot stop laughing! The race cars...![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() i go strictly for the rub n' tug. deep tissue, fluff and buff. which ever technique gets the job done. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tinninches - 2012-09-14 2:19 PM i go strictly for the rub n' tug. deep tissue, fluff and buff. which ever technique gets the job done. Huuuu... that's not a rub n' tug. That's a happy ending. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-09-14 8:09 AM I get a massage every 2 weeks. It's a deep tissue/ART/sports massage. It is NOT relaxing. Sounds like you got the typical "fluff and buff" Swedish massage. That's a more relaxing sort of massage meant to get blood flow moving. It does not really get in deep and release the tightness of the muscle. To do this requires some (sometimes) painful manipulation. So the answer you last question I don't think she/he got deep enough to really loosen up anything that would be "undone" by a workout. Ya, when I went to an ART guy for a problem... wow... I would think water boarding would be preferable to that. Edited by powerman 2012-09-14 4:16 PM |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I always chat with my therapist first. If they don't listen to what I want, I drop them like a bad habit. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-09-14 5:15 PM tinninches - 2012-09-14 2:19 PM i go strictly for the rub n' tug. deep tissue, fluff and buff. which ever technique gets the job done. Huuuu... that's not a rub n' tug. That's a happy ending. Holy cow! I would find it very difficult to request a "rub n' tug" without fear of being arrested on the spot! |
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Iron Donkey![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Teejaay - 2012-09-14 4:42 PMI've had many massages but don't think I've ever had the karate chop done. I mostly have the deep tissue massages and they hurt .. like bite on a towel hurt. Once at a fancy spa in Sedona I had a relaxing hour long massage that included massaging my stomach. She asked me if I wanted to try it out .. I was hesitant at first since I have NEVER had my stomach massaged. But I figured what the heck. It felt weird at first but it was kind of nice and relaxing. Certainly got things "moving" if ya know what I mean. Did you text Tony soon afterwards?? ![]() |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ChineseDemocracy - 2012-09-15 12:42 PM powerman - 2012-09-14 5:15 PM tinninches - 2012-09-14 2:19 PM i go strictly for the rub n' tug. deep tissue, fluff and buff. which ever technique gets the job done. Huuuu... that's not a rub n' tug. That's a happy ending. Holy cow! I would find it very difficult to request a "rub n' tug" without fear of being arrested on the spot!
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