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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My cousin recently wished her son Happy 12th Birthday on fb, and linked to his page. FB rules state no kids under age 13 allowed. I called her on it and she proceeded to rip me up one side and down the other about how I shouldn't question her parenting and she has "raised three amazing kids" without my help thankyouverymuch, blah blah blah. (This is the same women who posted a picture of her daughter's brand new driver's license on fb because she was so proud of her). FB has rules for a reason, am I being a prude? Anyone let their tween on FB? |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() In this case I don't think you are being a prude, it's the rule of FB so you are right. BUT, not sure why YOU are enforcing the FB rules or at least calling your cousin out on it. If it's a big deal to you, complain to FB? |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My cousin has her twelve year old daughter on FB but she has full access to all of it and is checking it every day. Her daughter is in high school. Some kids are mature than others. My daughter is seven hell no way!!! By the time she's at high school will it still be Facebook or another social media channel? I will see nearer the time but right now every fibre in my body is screaming dont let your kids on Facebook too young and ensure you have complete access to it all. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Honestly, I've talked to my son about being online like I talk to him about drugs and alcohol. Gaming/internet addiction is prolly one of greatest hidden causes of high school failure/college dropout for males. As parents, most of us have our heads in the sand when it comes to our kids being online/gaming. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My oldest is fourteen and still no FB. FB rules are FB rules; but ultimately it is the parents that have the responsibility with their own children. As others have said, you are correct with your observation; but it is their child and they are parenting as they see fit. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Buckshot - 2013-01-11 5:09 PM My oldest is fourteen and still no FB. FB rules are FB rules; but ultimately it is the parents that have the responsibility with their own children. As others have said, you are correct with your observation; but it is their child and they are parenting as they see fit.
I actually appreciate the FB rules because it allows me to give my kids a reason. My oldest 2 are 17 and 20 and rarely post anything on FB. The younger 3 are 10, 9 and 5. No FB. My 17 year old just got his own computer. I am shocked that parents are really so permissive when it comes to computers, computer/video games, cell phones etc. They don't want to be the bad guy, I don't mind, I'm the Mom not the friend. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My daughter will be 13 in August and then she can get a page. I think she has the maturity to handle it now, but it is a violation of the FB TOS. We want to teach her about agreements/lying/etc. When she gets a page we'll teach about how to behave online.
In your case, I wonder what you mean by "called her on it." It seems a good idea to inform her (who reads the TOS anyway? |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() We caught the twins on FB at age 11....their accounts were about 6 days old. If I remember correctly the beatings lasted a day longer. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KeriKadi - 2013-01-12 10:15 AM . Absolutely parent first friend second. With a computer comes responsibility. My seven year old doesn't have much interest in computers at all maybe once a week for half an hour playing Barbie dress up games or cooking games. She lives music videos so YouTube under supervision and she's to tell me what she's watching. She loves JLo and Shakira and beyonce just to dance along to - the content is absolutely lost on her just pretty ladies that dance - I love that innocence!!Buckshot - 2013-01-11 5:09 PM My oldest is fourteen and still no FB. FB rules are FB rules; but ultimately it is the parents that have the responsibility with their own children. As others have said, you are correct with your observation; but it is their child and they are parenting as they see fit.
I actually appreciate the FB rules because it allows me to give my kids a reason. My oldest 2 are 17 and 20 and rarely post anything on FB. The younger 3 are 10, 9 and 5. No FB. My 17 year old just got his own computer. I am shocked that parents are really so permissive when it comes to computers, computer/video games, cell phones etc. They don't want to be the bad guy, I don't mind, I'm the Mom not the friend. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-12 10:23 AM absolutely right. Nothing wrong with Facebook but there are some low life's on there for all the wrong reasonsWe caught the twins on FB at age 11....their accounts were about 6 days old. If I remember correctly the beatings lasted a day longer. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just report the profile and the pictures. If she won't hear it from you, she'll definately hear facebook admins. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I can understand people respecting the laws that have hopefully be designed by the elected officials of a company but not so much those dreamed up by a commercial organisation. FB accounts after 13 are there to protect FB as a company, not its users. My children will have FB when they're ready for it, that will likely be older than 13. Fortunately they show no interest right now. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sigh....This is a big issue here as well. I teach fifth graders, and nearly all of them have a Facebook account. They aren't allowed to access it at school, but I overhear discussions about postings, and one kid did a survey about it, so I know the rate is about 75%. Yes, it's against the site policy but there is no way for them to check unless we contact the site and report everyone. It is really parents' responsibility to follow the site rules and make their kids follow them. We do talk with kids and parents about Internet safety and the importance of NOT putting address, birthday, and other identifying information that could help a predator or criminal locate the student or steal identity, or of meeting Facebook "friends" in person for the first time without a parent present. (It would not occur to my students that the "friend" could turn out to be an adult predator rather than the child he/she claims to be.) It shocks me that a parent would post her daughter's driver's license and birthday online--practically an invitation to identity theft. I think in many cases parents either don't have the time to monitor their kids' Internet use or are not as net-savvy as their kids. Many kids will lie and say they're using the computer for homework when in fact they're on Facebook or gaming sites. And yes, as a teacher I see a definite negative correlation between reported screen time and academics, especially reading level. My gut feeling is that Facebook is NOT a good idea for kids below HS age. Most don't have the judgement to post appropriate content, the time management skills to balance their online time with academics and other demands, or the emotional maturity to handle inappropriate or hurtful comments. Every year our school deals with several such incidents--although they occur outside of school, we have to address them as they affect the kids' emotional well-being and ability to relate to each other in the classroom. I do know a few familes that have a family page and post together about travels, etc.--in my mind much more appropriate for tweens. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The family page what a great idea |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lifejustice - 2013-01-11 5:03 PM Just report the profile and the pictures. If she won't hear it from you, she'll definately hear facebook admins. I tried to report it but couldn't. The report page has a bunch of fields that are all required, including the email address the account was set-up under. I'm not the kid's friend so I can't see that info. Maybe I'm missing something. I don't really know the kid that well, so I can't judge on if he's one of those "mature" kids that can handle it. But I do know his mom, and she's, well, like I said she posted a picture of her daughter's DL for all to see on fb (which she rapidly took down after I pointed out that just maybe that might not be a smart idea). I probably shouldn't care but this is my family and even though I'm not particularly close with my cousin or even know her kids that well I wouldn't want anything stupid to happen to them. Also, I just don't understand why people can't follow rules. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think it's funny that parents are basically telling the kids some rules are OK to break. Pretty sure they learn that soon enough, and parents don't need to enforce that. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok, my kids don't have FB and think many kids waste a lot of time and there are dangers, but why would you call out your cousin unless you are very close? Not your problem. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() As a parent who regrets letting their gets get facebook pages around 13 yrs old, I encourage everyone to read Hotrunner's post above. Not just the obvious safety (photo and personal info posts), but the info they get...crazy. I believe it really desensitizes them to things that would have (properly) been otherwise taboo for them, and emboldens them to behaviors/language that in a vastly increased way compared to what they get from in in person peer to peer pressure. Think: Mob Mentality. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 2nd Hotrunner's comments. With a niece who grew up way too fast with neglectful parents, it's bad enuf the knee jerk texting that goes on (her boyfriend dumped her via text <sigh> but the FB posting I'd see on her page from "friends" was outrageous. And it's all a contest to see who has the most friends. My niece has something like 1,000 "friends" and she's 16. Really? I bite my tongue for the very reason stated -- oh right, I have no kids so I have no common sense and no idea how one would raise a child. mua ha ha ha ha ha. I'd rather have access to her page and be able to give her some guidance than be kicked off like grandma b/c "she keeps telling my mom what I post on FB" All I can say is I am ever grateful FaceBook, email, texting, IMing wasn't around during my misspent youth of the '70s and '80s to come back to haunt me. Edited by travljini 2013-01-12 9:01 AM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Twitter is the new FB..you want to see some outrageous stuff follow some teens on twitter. That said my kids all had FB accounts starting at around 12 .the requirement is that their account is linked to mine and I have the passwords..My boys really have no interest in it. In fact I invariably have to tell them to respond to something their Mima posts. My daughter uses it but like I said..I find out way more punishable dirt on twitter... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My older niece started college a few years ago with a fb account that she posted everything on, even though her dad, nana, and aunts were on there. Her mom was too, but that is another story. I kept my interaction neutral on her wall (only "likes", congrats for good stuff, and bit of fuddy daddy auntie stuff for humor like "nice top - what pants will you wear with it" on a photo of her in a short dress). They got lost amid her 900+ friends comments, I am sure. I did pm her now and again with tips on how "party girls can too get a 4.0 GPA" (because I had been the "cool" aunt) and once about photos not being able to get back once she put them out there, and that some college experiences might be best kept in her memory unposted. She did pull back on the photos, and 3 years later now, she is pretty tame on fb. I have no idea if she tweets.Now the 13 yo niece has fb. She is friends with her whole family and I am sure that her mom has inspected the privacy settings. She posted more on her fb timeline the first 7 hours of her account than I have posted in 7 months, but it is all tame, for now. I intend on being present in her fb life from afar. Since she quit being a little girl a few years ago, she doesn't want to get on the phone with me when I call her mom, etc, so this is the way to remain connected, on her terms. If I start seeing things that make me worry, I will take it from there. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think the important thing is not to hide our heads in the sand - Facebook and twitter are here to stay I try to stay on top of all the new stuff so that when my daughter is old enough I have the necessary tools to guide and protect her. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jmcconne - 2013-01-11 7:16 PM I think it's funny that parents are basically telling the kids some rules are OK to break. Pretty sure they learn that soon enough, and parents don't need to enforce that.
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Argh...
One of my nieces has had a FB account for 7 years or so. She turned 16 in November. Her mom even helped her set it up! 2 of my nephews, different parents, have a joint FB page, ONLY for games, they can't even post anything. The younger one is 6 and the eldest is 9 I think. They are highly supervised, but I think the only reason they have it is because they saw their mom and dad and older sister (who is 16, a month older than her cousin) playing FB games. Although I fully admit I'm not the greatest parent either - my 5 year old like to play Disney Jr or PBS Kids online too. Which is all she's allowed to use computer for. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ApplePie - 2013-01-11 4:52 PM My cousin recently wished her son Happy 12th Birthday on fb, and linked to his page. FB rules state no kids under age 13 allowed. I called her on it and she proceeded to rip me up one side and down the other about how I shouldn't question her parenting and she has "raised three amazing kids" without my help thankyouverymuch, blah blah blah. (This is the same women who posted a picture of her daughter's brand new driver's license on fb because she was so proud of her). FB has rules for a reason, am I being a prude? Anyone let their tween on FB?
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It's not really your business and pointing something like this out steps on toes. Sometimes it's better to keep things to yourself unless you saw something on there that was concerning like a 23 year old creepy guy posting on the wall or something. Edited by Jtiger 2013-01-14 8:54 AM |
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