Sydney Harbor Shark Attack
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2009-02-11 1:17 PM |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack Wow. I'd love to hear some Aussie BTer's perspectives on this. I remember during the Sydney Olympics how officials were insisting the Harbor was completely safe, especially for the Triathlon swim. I wonder how this changes things... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090211/wl_asia_afp/australiaanimalsha... |
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2009-02-11 1:20 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack I wonder if SuperCat, kaqphin, and eurydice79 will respond? |
2009-02-11 1:38 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack They also had divers with electronic shark shields at the Olympics, if I recall correctly. The odds of death are still greater driving to the Sydney Operahouse than swimming in Sydney Harbour. |
2009-02-11 1:39 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack It happens once every 12 years, yet car accidents happen once every, what, 12 seconds? I wouldn't worry too much about it. Suckage for the dude but probably not going to change the minds of people who live there and swim daily. |
2009-02-11 1:48 PM in reply to: #1957018 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 1:38 PM They also had divers with electronic shark shields at the Olympics, if I recall correctly. The odds of death are still greater driving to the Sydney Operahouse than swimming in Sydney Harbour. I hear ya, Chris and Tony. But did you see the quote about "more tiger sharks being seen in the last weeks than in the last few years"? I'm also interested in how this may affect the perception of how people in the area THINK about the Harbor, similar to what happened in San Diego last year. Will people consider this a fluke event or a possible sign of things to come? |
2009-02-11 2:25 PM in reply to: #1957018 |
Elite 3201 South Florida | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 2:38 PM They also had divers with electronic shark shields at the Olympics, if I recall correctly.
I wonder how much it would cost m for one of these guys?! |
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2009-02-11 2:32 PM in reply to: #1957163 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack MomX3 - 2009-02-11 12:25 PM ChrisM - 2009-02-11 2:38 PM They also had divers with electronic shark shields at the Olympics, if I recall correctly.
I wonder how much it would cost m for one of these guys?! about $600 |
2009-02-11 3:19 PM in reply to: #1957181 |
Expert 757 Florida | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 3:32 PM MomX3 - 2009-02-11 12:25 PM ChrisM - 2009-02-11 2:38 PM They also had divers with electronic shark shields at the Olympics, if I recall correctly.
I wonder how much it would cost m for one of these guys?! about $600 that actually seems like a worthwhile investment for people in FL,CA,TX, and internationally. 700 dollars to not worry about getting attacked while doing your morning OWS? priceless. i am a HUGE ocean enforcer, and i love the ocean and understand the balances of it. I also used to be obsessed with all sharks and spent a large majority of time studying them..I know the chances are UTTERLY RIDCIULOUSLY LOW, but if you have the cash-not bad. |
2009-02-11 3:22 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Master 1524 Reston, VA | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack awww, the story is bad, but the WORST is the story about the poor little burned koala at the top of the webpage....okay, maybe not worse, but still sad. poor little koala. i want one. |
2009-02-11 3:33 PM in reply to: #1957319 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack that actually seems like a worthwhile investment for people in ...,CA,.... 700 dollars to not worry about getting attacked while doing your morning OWS? priceless. i am a HUGE ocean enforcer, and i love the ocean and understand the balances of it. I also used to be obsessed with all sharks and spent a large majority of time studying them..I know the chances are UTTERLY RIDCIULOUSLY LOW, but if you have the cash-not bad. Please, send your $700 to me and I will make sure you don't get attacked. If you do, i will refund your money. Fear is a great thing to make money off of, just ask G.W. (terrorists), Gore (global warming) and Obama et al (economy) |
2009-02-11 3:36 PM in reply to: #1957351 |
Expert 757 Florida | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 4:33 PM that actually seems like a worthwhile investment for people in ...,CA,.... 700 dollars to not worry about getting attacked while doing your morning OWS? priceless. i am a HUGE ocean enforcer, and i love the ocean and understand the balances of it. I also used to be obsessed with all sharks and spent a large majority of time studying them..I know the chances are UTTERLY RIDCIULOUSLY LOW, but if you have the cash-not bad. Please, send your $700 to me and I will make sure you don't get attacked. If you do, i will refund your money. Fear is a great thing to make money off of, just ask G.W. (terrorists), Gore (global warming) and Obama et al (economy) I completely understand what your saying. and I definately do not have 700 dollars. I dont even have 200 dollars All i was stating was that in the EXTREME UNLIKELYHOOD of a shark being in aggressive to attack mode, having this do-dad isnt bad. Also-if i send you 700 dollars, im gonna need to see your credentials ETA: I come from a family of people who are all divers and love the ocean-hence the earlier part about my obsession. my father has had an ENTIRE school of pirhana follow him for 2 miles a few years back when he was diving-he was never attacked, he said he was a little worried bout it but was fine, so im not one of "those" people. nice pictures from his underwater camera tho!!! Edited by BeginnerMan 2009-02-11 3:39 PM |
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2009-02-11 3:47 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Master 1524 Reston, VA | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ...BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KOALA! |
2009-02-11 3:51 PM in reply to: #1957381 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack hooslisa - 2009-02-11 1:47 PM ...BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KOALA! I am working on a Koala Shield (patent pending) right now Got a chance to hold one in Aus back in 2002. SMELLY little buggers, for something so cute |
2009-02-11 3:52 PM in reply to: #1957390 |
Master 1524 Reston, VA | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 4:51 PM hooslisa - 2009-02-11 1:47 PM ...BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KOALA! I am working on a Koala Shield (patent pending) right now Got a chance to hold one in Aus back in 2002. SMELLY little buggers, for something so cute i think i can say that about a few people i know..... |
2009-02-11 3:53 PM in reply to: #1957351 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 3:33 PM that actually seems like a worthwhile investment for people in ...,CA,.... 700 dollars to not worry about getting attacked while doing your morning OWS? priceless. i am a HUGE ocean enforcer, and i love the ocean and understand the balances of it. I also used to be obsessed with all sharks and spent a large majority of time studying them..I know the chances are UTTERLY RIDCIULOUSLY LOW, but if you have the cash-not bad. Please, send your $700 to me and I will make sure you don't get attacked. If you do, i will refund your money. Fear is a great thing to make money off of, just ask G.W. (terrorists), Gore (global warming) and Obama et al (economy) I understand what you're saying, Chris, but by that token the entire insurance industry is also fear-mongering. For those who often swim in the ocean and also have a (perhaps irrational) fear of attack, $700 isn't a lot to pay for peace of mind. |
2009-02-11 3:57 PM in reply to: #1957381 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack hooslisa - 2009-02-11 1:47 PM ...BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KOALA! The Navy diver lived and is being cared for. The koala lived and is being cared for. |
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2009-02-11 4:05 PM in reply to: #1957400 |
Expert 757 Florida | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack TriAya - 2009-02-11 4:57 PM hooslisa - 2009-02-11 1:47 PM ...BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KOALA! The Navy diver lived and is being cared for. The koala lived and is being cared for. See...sometimes things do work out!!!!!! |
2009-02-11 4:08 PM in reply to: #1957358 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack BeginnerMan - 2009-02-11 1:36 PM I completely understand what your saying. and I definately do not have 700 dollars. I dont even have 200 dollars All i was stating was that in the EXTREME UNLIKELYHOOD of a shark being in aggressive to attack mode, having this do-dad isnt bad. Also-if i send you 700 dollars, im gonna need to see your credentials ETA: I come from a family of people who are all divers and love the ocean-hence the earlier part about my obsession. my father has had an ENTIRE school of pirhana follow him for 2 miles a few years back when he was diving-he was never attacked, he said he was a little worried bout it but was fine, so im not one of "those" people. nice pictures from his underwater camera tho!!! Cool background and funny story about the piranhas You would appreciate Chris's pictures; they're just amazing. http://www.underwaterplanet.com/ Sorry, Chris, can't help promoting you, you're so cool |
2009-02-11 4:14 PM in reply to: #1957395 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack scoobysdad - 2009-02-11 1:53 PM ChrisM - 2009-02-11 3:33 PM I understand what you're saying, Chris, but by that token the entire insurance industry is also fear-mongering. For those who often swim in the ocean and also have a (perhaps irrational) fear of attack, $700 isn't a lot to pay for peace of mind. that actually seems like a worthwhile investment for people in ...,CA,.... 700 dollars to not worry about getting attacked while doing your morning OWS? priceless. i am a HUGE ocean enforcer, and i love the ocean and understand the balances of it. I also used to be obsessed with all sharks and spent a large majority of time studying them..I know the chances are UTTERLY RIDCIULOUSLY LOW, but if you have the cash-not bad. Please, send your $700 to me and I will make sure you don't get attacked. If you do, i will refund your money. Fear is a great thing to make money off of, just ask G.W. (terrorists), Gore (global warming) and Obama et al (economy) [admittedly with too much time on my hands... ] that's some piece of mind :^ http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/04/shark-shield-experiences-epic-fail-gets-chomped-by-great-white/ I suppose if you are a really slow swimmer it might work. At least an insurance company will (eventually) pay if it can't find it's way out of coverage. I think it's a false sense of security. As for me, do I not on occasion think about the fact that a great white might get me on my weekly open water swim? Yup. Does it stop me? No, and it's not out of swagger or bravado, it's just a willingness to accept the odds. Perhaps it's also having been around lots (and lots) of them. I just read that the incidents of attacks/deaths by sharks is about the same as the attacks/deaths by mountain lions in the US. We all still go run mountain trails. |
2009-02-11 4:17 PM in reply to: #1957418 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack TriAya - 2009-02-11 2:08 PM BeginnerMan - 2009-02-11 1:36 PM I completely understand what your saying. and I definately do not have 700 dollars. I dont even have 200 dollars All i was stating was that in the EXTREME UNLIKELYHOOD of a shark being in aggressive to attack mode, having this do-dad isnt bad. Also-if i send you 700 dollars, im gonna need to see your credentials ETA: I come from a family of people who are all divers and love the ocean-hence the earlier part about my obsession. my father has had an ENTIRE school of pirhana follow him for 2 miles a few years back when he was diving-he was never attacked, he said he was a little worried bout it but was fine, so im not one of "those" people. nice pictures from his underwater camera tho!!! Cool background and funny story about the piranhas You would appreciate Chris's pictures; they're just amazing. http://www.underwaterplanet.com/ Sorry, Chris, can't help promoting you, you're so cool [blushing] but here's a better gallery anyway need to get them linked..... |
2009-02-11 4:19 PM in reply to: #1957429 |
Expert 757 Florida | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack ChrisM - 2009-02-11 5:14 PM scoobysdad - 2009-02-11 1:53 PM ChrisM - 2009-02-11 3:33 PM I understand what you're saying, Chris, but by that token the entire insurance industry is also fear-mongering. For those who often swim in the ocean and also have a (perhaps irrational) fear of attack, $700 isn't a lot to pay for peace of mind. that actually seems like a worthwhile investment for people in ...,CA,.... 700 dollars to not worry about getting attacked while doing your morning OWS? priceless. i am a HUGE ocean enforcer, and i love the ocean and understand the balances of it. I also used to be obsessed with all sharks and spent a large majority of time studying them..I know the chances are UTTERLY RIDCIULOUSLY LOW, but if you have the cash-not bad. Please, send your $700 to me and I will make sure you don't get attacked. If you do, i will refund your money. Fear is a great thing to make money off of, just ask G.W. (terrorists), Gore (global warming) and Obama et al (economy) [admittedly with too much time on my hands... ] that's some piece of mind :^ http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/04/shark-shield-experiences-epic-fail-gets-chomped-by-great-white/ I suppose if you are a really slow swimmer it might work. At least an insurance company will (eventually) pay if it can't find it's way out of coverage. I think it's a false sense of security. As for me, do I not on occasion think about the fact that a great white might get me on my weekly open water swim? Yup. Does it stop me? No, and it's not out of swagger or bravado, it's just a willingness to accept the odds. Perhaps it's also having been around lots (and lots) of them. I just read that the incidents of attacks/deaths by sharks is about the same as the attacks/deaths by mountain lions in the US. We all still go run mountain trails. Thats an interesting statistic Chris. also-link was good as well. Did not know about your site. I will be going home and carelessly waisting hours looking at it. I feel the same overall-i dont really worry bout it when im swimming, just had never heard of such a device before and since it related to sharks i became interested. Oh-where are you swimming that you have GW's? |
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2009-02-11 4:23 PM in reply to: #1957442 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack BeginnerMan - 2009-02-11 2:19 PM Thats an interesting statistic Chris. also-link was good as well. Did not know about your site. I will be going home and carelessly waisting hours looking at it. I feel the same overall-i dont really worry bout it when im swimming, just had never heard of such a device before and since it related to sharks i became interested. Oh-where are you swimming that you have GW's? I assume it's Santa Monica Bay ... same place I swim ... and how come I'm not swimming with you?! probably because you do it at some yuck-crack hour with those crazy LA Tri Club people ... Chris might go a little further south, but GWs are in the water all along the Pacific Coast. |
2009-02-11 4:26 PM in reply to: #1957446 |
Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack TriAya - 2009-02-11 2:23 PM BeginnerMan - 2009-02-11 2:19 PM Thats an interesting statistic Chris. also-link was good as well. Did not know about your site. I will be going home and carelessly waisting hours looking at it. I feel the same overall-i dont really worry bout it when im swimming, just had never heard of such a device before and since it related to sharks i became interested. Oh-where are you swimming that you have GW's? I assume it's Santa Monica Bay ... same place I swim ... and how come I'm not swimming with you?! probably because you do it at some yuck-crack hour with those crazy LA Tri Club people ... Chris might go a little further south, but GWs are in the water all along the Pacific Coast. What she said. ^^^^^ And no, I am not up early with them. Although I did swim once at sunrise down in Torrance beach last summer, it was against all the rules but it was freaking beautiful! Couple years ago some yahoo caught a great white (smallish, I think 4 or 5 feet) off the Manhattan Beach Pier. Took a pic of it and got it in the local paper. Then promptly got arrested as they are federally protected species. That's the same pier we round every Sunday morning Spring - Fall on our LA tri club OWS. |
2009-02-11 6:50 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Veteran 1108 Perth, Oz | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack scoobysdad - 2009-02-12 2:17 AMWow. I'd love to hear some Aussie BTer's perspectives on this. I remember during the Sydney Olympics how officials were insisting the Harbor was completely safe, especially for the Triathlon swim. I wonder how this changes things...http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090211/wl_asia_afp/australiaanimalshark_20090211143153 Poor guy its a bit scary. I still believe though that with tri swims, big swims etc, there is so much movement, boats water safety etc that sharks would not be venturing anywhere near that amount of movement etc. (that is my theory and it keeps me happy open water swimming so not willing to let anyone disprove it ) I'm way over on the other side of Aust, but over christmas a guy was taken by a shark over here, we had a tri scheduled 200m's up the beach a few weeks later. there were a few extra boats out there patrolling the water and the course was changed slightly but it still went ahead. obviously theres a difference that was open water and the guy yesterday was in the actual harbour. interesting to note though this year there has been a big increase in shark sightings, I was speaking to a fisheries research guy over here who was saying his theory was that this summer (australia wide) has been unusual weatherwise. apparently over this side of the coast the snapper did not spawn at the usual time, (sept, oct,nov) but were spawning later hence the sharks were in closer feeding. so more spottings. Not too sure how accurate that is but its interesting all the same.
anyway i'm rambling on and probably not really answering the original question, I'd still be happy to get in and swim in teh sydney harbour for a swim. But then I am more worried abou being knocked of my bike by a car then eaten by a shark! Edited by splerph 2009-02-11 6:56 PM |
2009-02-11 10:50 PM in reply to: #1956970 |
Champion 26509 Sydney | Subject: RE: Sydney Harbor Shark Attack There used to be a massive OWS event in Sydney harbour every March that I wanted to do but I cant find any reference to it online this year... Would I still do it... yup! We get all sorts of wildlife in the harbour at different times of year like Penguins and we've had whales there too... if they can swim in sharks can too.. they just generally seem to chose not to! Not surprising with all the boat traffic etc that some wildlife would chose to stay away... I have a bit of a fear of sharks but its never ever once stopped me from hopping in the water! I know the odds... an the odds are in my favour! There has only been ONE OWS event in the Sydney area cancelled due to a shark threat in the last few years that Im aware of which was a 10k swim a couple of years ago... the shorter versions 1k and 2k of the same event went ahead... I do like the logic dont look like a seal (wetsuit) and dont be the slowest! Edited by kaqphin 2009-02-11 10:52 PM |
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