The Heisman

So what you're saying is that you agree with the decision...

I tend to agree with you, but it's such a subjective process it's really nothing more than a popularity contest.

I didn't think Johnny Football would win. Depending on what happens in the NC, if ND wins, I would say Te'o deserved the Heisman. But in fact, he's not even the best LB in college football.

Johnny Football is definitely exciting and he did lead his team to beat the team favored to win the NC this year. Saying "it doesn't matter" that he beat Bama is just crazy. That's all that mattered.

My pick is Johnny Manziel   Look at all his or A&M's victories. Very impressive. 

Serious? Which ones are impressive?

They played five ranked teams. The rest were powderpuffs.

Of the ranked teams they played, they lost to LSU and Florida. They beat an over ranked Mississippi State team that lost four of its last five games. And they squeaked by a tiny Louisiana Tech.

Win over Alabama. Ok, we'll give you "impressive." What else you got?

Good player, had a great year, great stats. But I don't buy "impressive victories."

If ND wins, then Te'o deserved it because he's the leader of the team.

Colin Klein doesn't deserve it because he laid an egg on National TV against Baylor. Never mind that he dominated every other game. They were looking to him to dominate or lose the trophy.

Either Bama validates Johnny Football or it should've gone to Te'o.

100% agree

So Klein did exactly what Manziel did (lay an egg on national tv vs LSU) but he doesn't deserve it because his team is higher ranked and he has relatively similar stats (3400 yds 37 TD 7 int vs 4400 yds 43 td's 8 int)?

Klein has a lot less talent around him. Manziel has two possible top 10 picks in the draft on his team.

The Heisman has been a joke for awhile IMO. I don't really think it's a huge travesty that Manziel won, but I would've picked Klein. Even Geno Smith had similar numbers (4100 yds 42 TD 6 int) and he laid 2 eggs (same as Manziel). I think Manziel won it this year purely because A&M just moved to the SEC.

If you want the most impressive stats this year, it's got to be Jordan Lynch (4700 yds 43 TD's 5 INT's, led NIU to a BCS bowl, something Klein and him share that Manziel doesn't)

Difference between Klein's egg and Manziel's is that Manziel wants even on the radar when he laid his egg. Klein was in first place going into the Baylor game. Timing is everything.

I agree that the NIU guy Lynch looks like a very deserving guy.

Doesn't that seem silly though? Well you sucked on 10/20 and he sucked on 11/17 so you win.

Everyone they played. 

Roadhouse.

I said non-ranked opponents were powderpuffs, Can you argue that?

Strength of schedule is one thing, how you do against that schedule is something else. Hardest schedule in the country means little if you lose two games, when there's a group of teams with near-equal schedules that lose one or none.

At least one site ranks Notre Dame with the hardest SOS. As I said, they beat everyone they played.

Not arguing the worthiness of Manziel for the Heisman, just Iowaman's assertion of "impressive victories" and your implication that A&M is worthier than ND in the BCSCG.