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2006-03-09 8:57 AM

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Subject: Stupid Cyclist
On my way home from work yesterday I saw a man riding along the side of the pretty busy road. He had a nice bike and a fancy cycling outfit (compared to my Patagonia shorts and t-shirt). As he got closer I could read the writing on his outfit - it said "Cycle Smart" across his back and down his leg. Well, he might want to take advice from his clothes because he wasn't wearing a helmet!! What an idiot. I had the top down on my car and wanted so badly to shout something to him but I restrained myself. Forget getting hit by a car, imagine how hurt he could get if he just hit a pothole or something.

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2006-03-09 9:05 AM
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MomX3 - 2006-03-09 9:57 AM  I had the top down on my car and wanted so badly to shout something to him but I restrained. Forget getting hit by a car, imagine how hurt he could get if he just hit a pothole or something.

You should have said something to him.

When I was in Tampa in Nov. with Jess and Renee, we saw several cyclists without helmets. So stupid. Then we saw a motorcycle wreck, the guy was wearing a helmet. No doubt saved his life. *shiver*

2006-03-09 9:06 AM
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Wow- that's really stupid.  I would have been tempted to yell at him for not wearing a helmet.

I saw a couple riding cruisers bikes along the shoulder of a busy road this past weekend.  Both not wearing helmets.  They weren't riding very fast but still- they can still fall or get hit by a car!

2006-03-09 11:47 AM
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What I like is when I see parents riding with their kids. Invariably, the children have helmets. Which is great, but almost as invariably the adults don't. way to set a good example for your kids!
2006-03-09 11:57 AM
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It happens. I ride on my lunch break several times a week and I've forgotten to pack my helmet a few times in my two years in then sport. It feels awkward to ride without one, but I don't want to miss the workout

2006-03-09 12:27 PM
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sign.... I see too many MOTORCYCLIST, stopped and took off their helmet once the cross the MA/NH line. 

State motto of NH:  Live Free or Die. 



2006-03-09 12:28 PM
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What even gets me more then that is the people who will wear the helmet but NOT do up the strap.  It's like, the frigin thing is already on your head, your hair is messed, just do up the buckle! 
2006-03-09 12:44 PM
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run4yrlif - 2006-03-09 12:47 PM What I like is when I see parents riding with their kids. Invariably, the children have helmets. Which is great, but almost as invariably the adults don't. way to set a good example for your kids!

The parents may be proctecting their children physically by making them wear a helmet, but what happens if the parent crashes and is killed or ends up a vegetable for the rest of their life?  How is that protecting your child and you think they won't be affected by it?  Why do adults think they are immune to accidents but children aren't?  Dumb...

2006-03-09 12:47 PM
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there are a few guys who work at my favorite shop who ride around w/o helmets, and also favor all black clothing. i've always worn a helmet, but used to wear black all the time. it only took surgery and a bolt in my elbow for me to embrace neon orange.
2006-03-09 12:51 PM
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ChuckyFinster - 2006-03-09 12:57 PM

It happens. I ride on my lunch break several times a week and I've forgotten to pack my helmet a few times in my two years in then sport. It feels awkward to ride without one, but I don't want to miss the workout



That's why I didn't say anything - just incase he had some good reason. I tried to imagine that he left his helmet at a friend's and he was on his way to get it or something.
2006-03-09 12:51 PM
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ChuckyFinster - 2006-03-09 10:57 AM It happens. I ride on my lunch break several times a week and I've forgotten to pack my helmet a few times in my two years in then sport. It feels awkward to ride without one, but I don't want to miss the workout

There have been a few times when I am rushing out of the house or very tired for an early ride that I will get ten miles down the road and realize I forgot to grab my helmet.  This isn't any better, but at least where I ride I only see 3 or 4 cars and hour. 



2006-03-09 12:54 PM
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Celeb_ithil - 2006-03-09 1:27 PM

sign.... I see too many MOTORCYCLIST, stopped and took off their helmet once the cross the MA/NH line. 

State motto of NH:  Live Free or Die. 



There's no helmet law in FL either. As soon as I told my husband about the cyclist he mentioned all the motorcyclists without helmets. We met a bunch of rich, retired Harley riders on our honeymoon. One guy told us if you're in a crash the only difference if you wear a helmet is an open vs. closed casket.
2006-03-09 1:03 PM
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MomX3 - 2006-03-09 1:54 PM
Celeb_ithil - 2006-03-09 1:27 PM

sign.... I see too many MOTORCYCLIST, stopped and took off their helmet once the cross the MA/NH line. 

State motto of NH:  Live Free or Die. 

There's no helmet law in FL either. As soon as I told my husband about the cyclist he mentioned all the motorcyclists without helmets. We met a bunch of rich, retired Harley riders on our honeymoon. One guy told us if you're in a crash the only difference if you wear a helmet is an open vs. closed casket.

Oh my gosh- that just made the hair on my neck (what little I have!) stand up!  That's aweful a motorcyclist would say that.

2006-03-09 1:03 PM
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MomX3 - 2006-03-09 1:54 PM
Celeb_ithil - 2006-03-09 1:27 PM

sign.... I see too many MOTORCYCLIST, stopped and took off their helmet once the cross the MA/NH line. 

State motto of NH:  Live Free or Die. 

There's no helmet law in FL either. As soon as I told my husband about the cyclist he mentioned all the motorcyclists without helmets. We met a bunch of rich, retired Harley riders on our honeymoon. One guy told us if you're in a crash the only difference if you wear a helmet is an open vs. closed casket.

Oh my gosh- that just made the hair on my neck (what little I have!) stand up!  That's aweful a motorcyclist would say that.

2006-03-09 1:18 PM
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It's aweful but it's true. It is the same if you get hit by a car on your bike but you are going faster and a motorcycle weighs a lot more than a QR Caliente.
I think I have grown old because mine scares the hell out of me now and I am going to sell it one of these days.
2006-03-09 1:19 PM
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MomX3 - 2006-03-09 10:54 AM

One guy told us if you're in a crash the only difference if you wear a helmet is an open vs. closed casket.

Depends on the severity of the crash, really. Anti-helmet folks have a point there when they're talking about huge, dramatic accidents, but in more pedestrian accidents helmets can save lives.



2006-03-09 1:25 PM
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I've read (can't verify or provide a source) that many more head injuries could be prevented by wearing a helmet in an automobile than could possibly occur from cyclists. So how many of you preaching the gospel of mandatory helmets for cyclists also wear helmets while driving?

Edit: OK found a source, that says helmet laws REDUCE frequency of cycling and tha motor vehicle use of helmets would save 17 times as many lives:

"The benefits of cycling, even without a helmet, have been estimated to outweigh the hazards by a factor of 20 to 1 (Hillman 1993; Cycle helmets-the case for and against. Policy Studies Institute, London). Consequently, a helmet law, whose most notable effect was to reduce cycling, may have generated a net loss of health benefits to the nation. Despite the risk of dying from head injury per hour being similar for unhelmeted cyclists and motor vehicle occupants, cyclists alone have been required to wear head protection. Helmets for motor vehicle occupants are now being marketed and a mandatory helmet law for these road users has the potential to save 17 times as many people from death by head injury as a helmet law for cyclists without the adverse effects of discouraging a healthy and pollution free mode of transport." (HEAD INJURIES AND BICYCLE HELMET LAWS Accident Analysis & Prevention, by Robinson DL. 28(4):463-475, 1996 Jul. Abstract Copyright (C) 1996 Elsevier Science Ltd. [References: 59])

That said, having trashed three helmets, I would not be caught dead (punny boy!) on my bike without a helmet. But that's my choice, I certainly wouldn't call a cyclist stupid because he chose otherwise.



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2006-03-09 1:36 PM
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i don't, cause i don't drive.

(yea yea, autumn, bring it up AGAIN!).

i don't wear one as a passenger either though, and i'm sure the same would apply to the front passenger.
2006-03-09 2:08 PM
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the bear - 2006-03-09 2:25 PM

But that's my choice, I certainly wouldn't call a cyclist stupid because he chose otherwise.



I know it's his choice, but I will call him stupid, my opinion at least. I think my friend who was smoking at 5:15am before our 1/2 marathon was stupid too. I think Brittney Spears was being stupid when she had her baby in her lap while driving. I think lots of people can act stupid (myself included at times of course). Anyway, the most ironic thing about it all was that his outfit said "Cycle Smart."

Also, the guys I met in Montana who made the open casket comment did wear helmets, we were just discussing helmet laws I think (it was a long time ago) which made him tell me that saying.
2006-03-09 2:18 PM
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2006-03-09 2:27 PM
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oneword - 2006-03-09 2:18 PM

That said, having trashed three helmets, I would not be caught dead (punny boy!) on my bike without a helmet. But that's my choice, I certainly wouldn't call a cyclist stupid because he chose otherwise.

How'd you manage to fall off only three times?  

I've fallen dozens of times. Just not that many on my head. Despite what the general consensus here is. Undecided



2006-03-09 2:30 PM
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MomX3 - 2006-03-09 2:08 PM  I know it's his choice, but I will call him stupid, my opinion at least. I think my friend who was smoking at 5:15am before our 1/2 marathon was stupid too. I think Brittney Spears was being stupid when she had her baby in her lap while driving. I think lots of people can act stupid (myself included at times of course). Anyway, the most ironic thing about it all was that his outfit said "Cycle Smart." Also, the guys I met in Montana who made the open casket comment did wear helmets, we were just discussing helmet laws I think (it was a long time ago) which made him tell me that saying.

Well, I've had people say I am stupid for running/riding/racing so much. Doesn't make it so, but they, you and I are all entitled to an opinion.Wink

2006-03-09 3:00 PM
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MomX3 - 2006-03-09 1:08 PM


Also, the guys I met in Montana who made the open casket comment did wear helmets, we were just discussing helmet laws I think (it was a long time ago) which made him tell me that saying.


FUNNY-was this guy you talked to my HUSBAND? He and I have an ongoing debate about helmet use. He'll wear a helmet while mountain biking and snowboarding-but not on his Harley. He'll say all sorts of lame things like, "I'm not going that fast or that far" or "it ruins the experience". whatever. I think it's a Harley-cool-guy thing and I think it's incredibly stupid. He claims to don a helmet when riding "a long time". o-k.

It is sort of true about the casket comment-many a high speed crash on a motorcycle would not be mitigated by wearing a helmet (shudder).

I'm not giving in on this battle-he's a prince otherwise!
2006-03-09 3:09 PM
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blackbettybambalam - 2006-03-09 4:00 PM


FUNNY-was this guy you talked to my HUSBAND?

I'm not giving in on this battle-he's a prince otherwise!


Nope - these guys were grandfathers and were from Salt Lake and CA. They were hysterical. We in Glacier Park sitting at the hotel bar waiting for our room to be ready. All of a sudden a group of there rough looking guys in their Harley gear came in and sat all around us. It seemed like they were trying to get my attention to tease me a little but I dind't know why. I finally looked and they were alll wearing Billy Bob fake teeth and wanted to see what I would do. We ended up having the best time with them. It turned out they were a bunch of rich guys who just liekd to ride. They called themselves The Whiners because some of them would complain so much - "I don't want to ride in the rain. We're going how far today?" We liked them so much we sent pictures of us with them and their teeth out to our college friends as Christmas cards!

PS - The Billy Bobs look so real...





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2006-03-09 9:23 PM
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the bear - 2006-03-09 2:25 PM

I've read (can't verify or provide a source) that many more head injuries could be prevented by wearing a helmet in an automobile ... .

That's a good idea ... I bang my head in frustration against the steering wheel constantly due to the total ineptidude of those driving around me.

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