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2007-10-02 7:47 AM

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Or just the "phony" ones who have the gall to want to come home. Interesting stance from a draft-dodger.

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2007-10-02 7:55 AM
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He's a clown who says clowny things. End of story.
2007-10-02 8:19 AM
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You do know he was talking about a guy who was pretending to be a soldier. I think the phony soldier might have been convicted of fraud.

It's good to know you can go check facts. Wait thats right you write for a newspaper. what was I thinking.
2007-10-02 8:31 AM
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nbo10 - 2007-10-02 9:19 AM You do know he was talking about a guy who was pretending to be a soldier. I think the phony soldier might have been convicted of fraud. It's good to know you can go check facts. Wait thats right you write for a newspaper. what was I thinking.

He *says* he was talking about a particular soldier, but he repeatedly said "soldiers", and didn't even mention the guy's name until he had moved on from that particular conversation,. Here's the exerpt from the conversation:

CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I've been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER 2: And, you know, I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I'm proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there, it'd take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse, and we'd have to go right back over there within a year or so. And --

LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't even -- if -- the next guy that calls here, I'm gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out? They can't -- I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "Well, we just gotta bring the troops home."

CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what --

LIMBAUGH: "Save the -- keep the troops safe" or whatever. I -- it's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.

CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.

LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined --

CALLER 2: A lot of them -- the new kids, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.

CALLER 2: Exactly, sir.

2007-10-02 9:14 AM
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Kinda chickens---t to call anyone serving in our Armed Services phony. I'm just curious why someone is monitoring and reporting word for word what a radio ralk show host has to say. He isn't an elected official after all. Just a highly opinionated blowhard.
2007-10-02 9:16 AM
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Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.



2007-10-02 9:16 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:14 AM I'm just curious why someone is monitoring and reporting word for word what a radio ralk show host has to say. He isn't an elected official after all. Just a highly opinionated blowhard.

This is 2007--everything is monitored. And of course he's not elected, but to say that the guy is highly influential is a bit of an understatement.

2007-10-02 9:19 AM
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So ... if he was talking about the one soldier (Jesse MacBeth) then why did he say `The phony soldiers' ... plural. SoldierS. See here's the disconnect that Rush's blind followers don't seem to get -- he makes a blanket statement that has one example. He generalizes. And suddenly every soldier that speaks against the war MUST be like this MacBeth fellow.

That's like saying `All Catholic priests abuse children.' Um, I can bust out lots of examples but there are lots of priests who don't abuse children, so saying that would be an unfair generalization.

Get the point?

Oh, and ...
Why does Rush Limbaugh hate America?

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2007-10-02 9:36 AM
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run4yrlif - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:14 AM I'm just curious why someone is monitoring and reporting word for word what a radio ralk show host has to say. He isn't an elected official after all. Just a highly opinionated blowhard.

This is 2007--everything is monitored. And of course he's not elected, but to say that the guy is highly influential is a bit of an understatement.

I said he was highly opinionated or do you mean to say you feel he is highly influential?
2007-10-02 9:40 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:36 AM I said he was highly opinionated or do you mean to say you feel he is highly influential?

He *is* highly influential.

2007-10-02 9:48 AM
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mr2tony - 2007-10-02 10:19 AM So ... generalization. Get the point? Oh, and ... Why does Rush Limbaugh hate America?
From his lifelong suffering with bed wetting, <edit>, he wasn't breast fed, the kids all made fun of him, he was always picked last, there's not enough oxycontin to go around, ....it just goes on and on.


2007-10-02 9:52 AM
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De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment. 

Since you are still stuck on Nam and chasing draft dodgers don't forget to mention the head of our last administration. You know, the Democratic party frontrunner's husband Bill.

2007-10-02 9:56 AM
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run4yrlif - 2007-10-02 9:40 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:36 AM I said he was highly opinionated or do you mean to say you feel he is highly influential?

He *is* highly influential.

So there is an organized effort under way to discredit him then?
2007-10-02 10:02 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF and NASCAR, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment. 

Since you are still stuck on Nam and chasing draft dodgers don't forget to mention the head of our last administration. You know, the Democratic party frontrunner's husband Bill.

OK is that better. And btw, since you don't have a clue about me, don't assume anything.

Thank you and have a nice day.

2007-10-02 10:05 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM

De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment.



so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?

2007-10-02 10:18 AM
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De Cracker - 2007-10-02 10:02 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF and NASCAR, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment. 

Since you are still stuck on Nam and chasing draft dodgers don't forget to mention the head of our last administration. You know, the Democratic party frontrunner's husband Bill.

OK is that better. And btw, since you don't have a clue about me, don't assume anything.

Thank you and have a nice day.

I said I assumed the post would not be pulled. Read before you shoot from the hip


2007-10-02 10:18 AM
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jimbo - 2007-10-02 11:05 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment.

so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?
No, I was asked to include NASCAR but come to think of it that could be why Junior's not in the chase.
2007-10-02 10:20 AM
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jimbo - 2007-10-02 11:05 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment.

so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?

Dear sirs,

NASCAR Fixed?  Those are your words, not ours.

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2007-10-02 10:22 AM
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These radio `personalities' are just that -- personalities. The ones that make the bucks are the ones that try to be controversial. Look at Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh, Tucker, Cindy Sheehan -- all a bunch of blathering idiots yet they seem to find their way on the air every day and night. Their entire job is to rile the masses and create controversy. That's why people listen to what they say. Look at Ann Coulter -- surely nobody takes what she says seriously, yet she's on the news every few months spouting some hate that embarrass even the most staunch Conservatives.
2007-10-02 10:23 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:56 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:36 AM I said he was highly opinionated or do you mean to say you feel he is highly influential?

He *is* highly influential.

So there is an organized effort under way to discredit him then?

Rush is extremely adept at discrediting himself.

It's all theatrics. He doesn't influence anyone; he just preaches to his own choir of nattering nabobs.

 

2007-10-02 10:24 AM
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De Cracker - 2007-10-02 11:18 AM

jimbo - 2007-10-02 11:05 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment.

so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?
No, I was asked to include NASCAR but come to think of it that could be why Junior's not in the chase.


right---i meant that mdg2003 was suggesting nascar was fixed by saying he was surprised it wasn't included in your list of prearranged entertainment.


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jimbo - 2007-10-02 10:24 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 11:18 AM
jimbo - 2007-10-02 11:05 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment.

so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?
No, I was asked to include NASCAR but come to think of it that could be why Junior's not in the chase.
right---i meant that mdg2003 was suggesting nascar was fixed by saying he was surprised it wasn't included in your list of prearranged entertainment.

Uhm, wrong Jimbo. I was suggesting he forgot to include it in his thinly veiled insult. He verified that it was in fact a veiled insult by including it in his next post. 

2007-10-02 10:34 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:56 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:36 AM I said he was highly opinionated or do you mean to say you feel he is highly influential?

He *is* highly influential.

So there is an organized effort under way to discredit him then?

Huh?

I guess in the context that there's an organized effort to discredit anyone of influence, sure. BUt I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Limbaugh's words sort of speak for themselves.

2007-10-02 10:46 AM
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mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 11:33 AM

jimbo - 2007-10-02 10:24 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 11:18 AM
jimbo - 2007-10-02 11:05 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:52 AM
De Cracker - 2007-10-02 9:16 AM

Typical right wing neo con bs. Of course with all of Limbaughs steller military service I'm sure he's more than qualified to discuss the effects of combat on the individual soldier.

And how do we determine the veracity of the callers comments? I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment.

I love to hear all these neo con chicken hawks spout their pro war bs. They're all my age but the funny thing is that with the exception of Al Gore, Max Cleland and John Kerry, not many of these leeches found their way over to SE Asia.

I'm assuming this post will be allowed to stand as is and not be censored or removed. Replace the word right with left and toss in liberal instead of neo con and it likely would. In all fairness to the moderators it has only been up a short while. Where's the love man? Make your point without the insult. I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment.

so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?
No, I was asked to include NASCAR but come to think of it that could be why Junior's not in the chase.
right---i meant that mdg2003 was suggesting nascar was fixed by saying he was surprised it wasn't included in your list of prearranged entertainment.

Uhm, wrong Jimbo. I was suggesting he forgot to include it in his thinly veiled insult. He verified that it was in fact a veiled insult by including it in his next post.



*sigh*

let me walk you through this. i'll type slowly so you'll understand.

De Cracker said: "I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF, since both are forms of prearranged entertainment."

meaning: rush limbaugh's show and the WWF are both fixed.


mdg2003 (you) said: "I'm surprised you forgot to put in Nascar with your WWF comment."

had De Cracker done what you said you're surprised he didn't, then his statement would have read, "I mean people who listen to this guy must really love the WWF and NASCAR, since all are forms of prearranged entertainment.

meaning: rush limbaugh's show, the WWF, and NASCAR are all fixed.

hence my comment to you, "so you're saying that NASCAR is fixed, too?"

i know that what you probably meant to suggest is that you're surprised he didn't include NASCAR in his caricature of rightwing neocons. but you made a poorly worded argument instead.

make sense?

and i don't think De Cracker was making a veiled insult. he called neocons chickenhawks and fans of the WWF (WWE). that's harsh.

Edited by jimbo 2007-10-02 10:47 AM
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Renee - 2007-10-02 10:23 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:56 AM
run4yrlif - 2007-10-02 9:40 AM
mdg2003 - 2007-10-02 10:36 AM I said he was highly opinionated or do you mean to say you feel he is highly influential?

He *is* highly influential.

So there is an organized effort under way to discredit him then?

Rush is extremely adept at discrediting himself.

It's all theatrics. He doesn't influence anyone; he just preaches to his own choir of nattering nabobs.

 

Then why do other groups go out of their way to discredit him? Giving someone press, positive or negative, gives them some degree of credibility. You certainly won't convince dittoheads to become liberal thinkers. You might actually convince fence sitters to go listen and possibly continue to listen.
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