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2008-08-11 4:16 PM

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This is how I train since my coach is a TI coach. But are there any pros/Olympians that swim with these techniques?


2008-08-11 4:45 PM
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goknights1 - 2008-08-11 5:16 PM This is how I train since my coach is a TI coach. But are there any pros/Olympians that swim with these techniques?

Short answer.....no.

TI is a great way for adults without a swimming background to learn how to swim in a relaxed, efficient manner. I believe it works best for adults who are very inefficient in the water and tend to take any advice very literally. Kids on the other hand can take a little bit of advice and apply it fairly easily to their training and develop their own "feel" in the water.

This is just my opinion from a few adults that I have helped out when they came to me with TI drills. Don't get me wrong, TI is a great tool for triathletes. I think it has it's limits with elite swimmers.

2008-08-11 4:46 PM
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There are definitely elite swimmers that use elements of TI swimming (just look at all of the front-quadrant swimming going on at the Olympics), but I'm not sure you'd find any the prescribe exclusively to the method. Also, note that TI is more of a methodical approach for teaching how to swim efficiently, and less of a specific swimming technique.
2008-08-12 7:25 AM
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I never swam competitively and started swimming about 4 years ago. I picked up the TI book and videos and found them very useful but felt pretty goofy doing the drills and didn't stick with them.  I still try to take what I learned from TI, but I still don't like drills.  I like swimming with good swimmers that I can peak at their technique while swimming and get some pointers that way.

2008-08-12 8:19 AM
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I used the TI books and videos, and took the weekend workshop. Improved my swimming profoundly. Every now and then I heard that TI swimming was slow swimming, so I went out and bought additional books, videos, and took some lessons. Everything is basically the same, there are slight variations on techniques (mostly opinion differences). TI is great for taking someone without formal swim training and methodically working you throught the basics. Swimming faster does not require learning some other technique not taught in the TI program. One thing that always confuses people who hear about TI is that it does place emphasis on swimming slow and concentrating on the proper technique (what benefit is it to swim inefficient), once you have the techniques down, swim as fast as you want. I added a few drills to my training to increase my speed, mostly on the pull, but the real gains came from using what I learned in TI, and then putting in time in the pool.

2008-08-12 2:02 PM
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The TI books reference Michael Phelps and other great Olympic swimmers.  TI notes that Phelps takes fewer strokes(a TI mantra) to swim a 50 than any other swimmer.  Plus he is a "front quadrant swimmer", etc.  So, I would say the short answer is "Yes, Olympic swimmers do follow TI".

There just seems to be some resentment toward TI from non-TI coaches.  I think it is because TI claims to have created this "New" method of swimming, that goes against many of the old swimming recommendations.  While I dont believe TI created a new method of swimming, they definately created a new method of teaching.



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