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2009-08-18 8:43 AM

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Subject: Swiming w/your butt out.
For less than a yr., I've been a self-taught swimmer (still learning) who has managed to survive an oly & 2 half-IMs. A former swim instructor recently advised that I not hold my chin to my chest but rather keep my head aligned w/my spine. It's the whole 'searching the bottom of the pool' form. So I did it & noticed that my butt is now out of the water! Awesome b/c of the decrease in drag--I really am faster now. Problem is keeping my body that way, i.e., horizontal. Anybody have good visualization techniques or tips in general?

BTW: For all you newbie swimmers, pay attention. This has instantly changed my attitude towards swimming.


2009-08-18 9:39 AM
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Huh? 

You don't want your hips to sink, i'll give you that.  But chin to your chest?  That would make me think you're are looking almost slightly backwards in the pool.  I look slightly forwards.
2009-08-18 9:44 AM
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"... chin to your chest?  That would make me think you're are looking almost slightly backwards..."

Eggzacly. That's what I WAS doing. To your point, do you find that looking 'slightly forward' helps keep your body horizontal?
2009-08-18 9:46 AM
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I think some coaches tell new swimmers to tuck their chin, because often, if you feel like you're doing something "too much", it's actually just the right amount, if that makes sense.

A different way to think about it would be to make sure you are engaging your core (which will lift your hips) and pressing your chest down (which will attain the "swimming downhill" result). Not saying that this is THE right way to think about it, but it's one of many explanations I've heard. The thing about visualization in technique is that everyone thinks about movements a little differently. So one image might make sense to one person, where it won't work for another. But it can't hurt to try various things and see what happens. The most important thing is to have an outside eye to watch you and help you tweak your technique.



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2009-08-18 9:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Swiming w/your butt out.

I usually look straight down to slightly ahead and I agree, if I am focused, it's much better.  Just be careful to not lift your head too far out of the water.

I try to visualize that my whole body is the underside of a boat.  I hold my legs up on purpose, using core strength.  Once I started doing that, I realized that my legs were falling because I let them!  Your hips play a role here.   So, I keep my head from dropping, push down at my lungs slightly, and keep my core strong so my legs don't drop.    You are in control from tip to tail.

2009-08-18 11:23 AM
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I just read about the head thing on the swimsmooth site this morning but I cannot find it now.  It says that both head positions are appropriate; it depends on your balance in the water.


2009-08-18 8:59 PM
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Porfirio - 2009-08-18 10:44 AM "... chin to your chest?  That would make me think you're are looking almost slightly backwards..."

Eggzacly. That's what I WAS doing. To your point, do you find that looking 'slightly forward' helps keep your body horizontal?


Mmmm, not sure.  All I know is i definitely look slightly forward, definitely not even straight down let alone backwards at all..  But i'm a strong swimmer so i don't have to think about it too much. 
2009-08-18 9:08 PM
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Not to disrupt, but the thread title made me laugh. I think I would get kicked out of the pool for that.

 

2009-08-18 9:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Swiming w/your butt out.
I don't want to get into a TI (Total Immersion) or NO TI debate, but I've always liked the description of 'pressing your buoy' into the water.  i.e. pressing your chest/lungs into the water or "swimming downhill."
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