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2014-11-22 12:18 PM

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Subject: I can't seem to wrap my head around Furguson

There is a long history of injustice in this country involving race. We could probably find a few recent examples without looking to hard. But for the life of me... I can't comprehend the "outrage" over Furguson. A thug, that just did a strong armed robbery, attacked a police officer when stopped.... and we are supposed to be outraged over this? If I punched a cop in his face... I sort of expect to be shot. Heck, with CCW.... I sort of expect that depending who I punch.

Shoot.... Rodney King was a criminal high on drugs that would not stop.... but nobody deserved that beat down. I understand police have a hard job, and they should not have to sacrifice their body to stop someone.... but there were 15 cops, and one offender.... I think the situation was under control.

But Brown... I'm just really at a loss.... and yes, when the GJ announces charges will not be filed because the officer did nothing wrong... ya, riots. Oh the outrage.



2014-11-22 6:15 PM
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Originally posted by powerman

There is a long history of injustice in this country involving race. We could probably find a few recent examples without looking to hard. But for the life of me... I can't comprehend the "outrage" over Furguson. A thug, that just did a strong armed robbery, attacked a police officer when stopped.... and we are supposed to be outraged over this? If I punched a cop in his face... I sort of expect to be shot. Heck, with CCW.... I sort of expect that depending who I punch.

Shoot.... Rodney King was a criminal high on drugs that would not stop.... but nobody deserved that beat down. I understand police have a hard job, and they should not have to sacrifice their body to stop someone.... but there were 15 cops, and one offender.... I think the situation was under control.

But Brown... I'm just really at a loss.... and yes, when the GJ announces charges will not be filed because the officer did nothing wrong... ya, riots. Oh the outrage.




I almost fully agree.
My only disagreement is I wish there were more than 15 cops beating Rodney up. You don't drive 100mph through a residential neighborhood hopped up on drugs. He deserved far worse than he got. just my 2 cents.

2014-11-23 11:01 AM
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Well, I can't speak for everyone, but if I got what I deserved, I would be in a very different place. I have not seen in any penal code where possible punishment includes getting the living #&*$ beat out of you before or after your due process.

I can think of many terrible things to do to many terrible people, but I definitely don't want the State to have that kind of power.

Bottom line is everybody with an axe to grind is trying to turn Ferguson into something more than it is. It's straight up BS. I can't understand how anyone can hitch their wagon to Brown with a straight face.
2014-11-24 7:56 PM
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Originally posted by powerman

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but if I got what I deserved, I would be in a very different place. I have not seen in any penal code where possible punishment includes getting the living #&*$ beat out of you before or after your due process.

I can think of many terrible things to do to many terrible people, but I definitely don't want the State to have that kind of power.

Bottom line is everybody with an axe to grind is trying to turn Ferguson into something more than it is. It's straight up BS. I can't understand how anyone can hitch their wagon to Brown with a straight face.


Well then sir, apparently you're not familiar with the Saudi Arabian penal code!
I know I'm talkin' crazy, but I REALLY have little sympathy for those who put innocent people in harm's way.
The Brown nonsense...just outrageous. He is on tape just robbing a store. This is beyond silly.

  • ..about 4 minutes from a decision. It's not going to be a good night to be out in the greater St. Louis area.

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    I'm watching an entire parking lot get set on fire on car at a time.  And there isn't a police or fireman anywhere to be seen.  Overcompensating a bit!?

     

    2014-11-25 6:07 AM
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    Agree, I don't understand any of it. The outrage, the looting, the fires the protests. What is setting a town on fire supposed to accomplish? Is it emotional meltdown and complete erosion of all respect for others? Is it supposed to be making a point? Are they just thugs stealing and looting for fun?

     



    2014-11-25 9:09 AM
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    The Brown family said, "they are disappointed the killer of their son will not face the consequences".... I get grief. I understand they lost their son.... but what consequences should a police officer face in a justified shooting of their son that committed a strong arm robbery and then beat the officer in his car? I'm completely lost on that one.

    The rioters... thugs behaving as thugs. 

    Now the Brown family did say they want body cams on all police.... that one has been around, and that one is coming soon. I also agree with it. Dash cams have been very helpful is 1) getting convictions of criminals, and 2) showing police misconduct.

    In this case... it would have shown Brown beating the officer in his car, then charging him after a short chase. Body cams work both ways, and I agree they should be used for both cases.

    2014-11-25 9:18 AM
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    I am thinking its a case of opportunists versus protesters. Protesters want to make a difference while opportunists want to take and destroy.

    As for the case itself it might not been the best one to rally around.
    2014-11-25 9:25 AM
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    I don't want to say I blame the media, but there are police shootings every single week across America but for some reason this one was brought to the forefront.  The media and politicians latched onto it for some reason.

    Perhaps, it was the reports that he was standing with his hands up in the air and "executed" that made it sensational enough to hit the headlines, but as the evidence came out we all discovered that it wasn't the case at all.

    Due to the media frenzy all the race hustlers are front and center with the thug followers and the rest is history.

    Stay safe down there LB.  If you need me to get things back in order just let me know and I'll head on down.  



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    Originally posted by tuwood

    I don't want to say I blame the media, but there are police shootings every single week across America but for some reason this one was brought to the forefront.  The media and politicians latched onto it for some reason.

    Perhaps, it was the reports that he was standing with his hands up in the air and "executed" that made it sensational enough to hit the headlines, but as the evidence came out we all discovered that it wasn't the case at all.

    Due to the media frenzy all the race hustlers are front and center with the thug followers and the rest is history.

    Stay safe down there LB.  If you need me to get things back in order just let me know and I'll head on down.  

    Like the media latched onto the continued shootings that happen/happened in Chicago each week that had been going on for years before they started reporting on it and will continue to go on after they reported on it that essentially made it look like if you stepped out of your door anywhere near Chicago you might potentially die but that couldn't possibly be happening in essentially every single other major metropolitan city in the nation?  That media and politician coverage?  

    /post derailment rant off.

    2014-11-25 12:11 PM
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    Originally posted by tuwood

    I don't want to say I blame the media, but there are police shootings every single week across America but for some reason this one was brought to the forefront.  The media and politicians latched onto it for some reason.

    Perhaps, it was the reports that he was standing with his hands up in the air and "executed" that made it sensational enough to hit the headlines, but as the evidence came out we all discovered that it wasn't the case at all.

    Due to the media frenzy all the race hustlers are front and center with the thug followers and the rest is history.

    Stay safe down there LB.  If you need me to get things back in order just let me know and I'll head on down.  

    blame the media all you want but you tuned in and followed it.  if not for that the story would have been dropped. 



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    Originally posted by Clempson

    Originally posted by tuwood

    I don't want to say I blame the media, but there are police shootings every single week across America but for some reason this one was brought to the forefront.  The media and politicians latched onto it for some reason.

    Perhaps, it was the reports that he was standing with his hands up in the air and "executed" that made it sensational enough to hit the headlines, but as the evidence came out we all discovered that it wasn't the case at all.

    Due to the media frenzy all the race hustlers are front and center with the thug followers and the rest is history.

    Stay safe down there LB.  If you need me to get things back in order just let me know and I'll head on down.  

    blame the media all you want but you tuned in and followed it.  if not for that the story would have been dropped. 

    I think I first learned about the story here on BT.  lol
    I get your point though, people tune in and watch so the media is going to do what they do.

     

    2014-11-25 2:29 PM
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    In our paper this morning, they interviewed one of the "protesters."

    He justified burning down local businesses because the businesses have insurance.

    The ignorance in that statement is mind blowing.

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    My job is never boring.

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    Originally posted by Left Brain

    My job is never boring.

    So you got any inside rumors about how exciting tonight will be? Stay safe.

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    Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

    Originally posted by Left Brain

    My job is never boring.

    So you got any inside rumors about how exciting tonight will be? Stay safe.

    I caught this picture of LB walking out to his car on the way to lunch today.  



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    So you might have seen by now... The step father, after hearing the decision, and consoling Michael Browns mother... Told the crowd to "burn this M. F'er down". I suppose I should riot now over the fact he won't be charged with inciting a riot. Absolutely ridiculous.
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    Originally posted by powerman So you might have seen by now... The step father, after hearing the decision, and consoling Michael Browns mother... Told the crowd to "burn this M. F'er down". I suppose I should riot now over the fact he won't be charged with inciting a riot. Absolutely ridiculous.

    He'll probably get the Presidential Medal of Freedom 

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    Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy
    The Brown nonsense...just outrageous. He is on tape just robbing a store. This is beyond silly.

  • ..about 4 minutes from a decision. It's not going to be a good night to be out in the greater St. Louis area.




  • And that justifies an execution? Where do we live again?
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    Originally posted by TriDadinAsheville
    Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy The Brown nonsense...just outrageous. He is on tape just robbing a store. This is beyond silly. ...about 4 minutes from a decision. It's not going to be a good night to be out in the greater St. Louis area.
    And that justifies an execution? Where do we live again?

    If you look at the facts of the case, it's most certainly not an execution.  If you attack the police, they have every right to defend themselves.  If somebody attacks you or I, we have the legal right to defend ourselves with whatever means necessary as well.

    I can be critical of the police in many instances, but I will always defend their right to go home to their family at night.

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    Originally posted by TriDadinAsheville

    Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy
    The Brown nonsense...just outrageous. He is on tape just robbing a store. This is beyond silly.

  • ..about 4 minutes from a decision. It's not going to be a good night to be out in the greater St. Louis area.




  • And that justifies an execution? Where do we live again?


    Well isn't that the issue? witnesses came out at first saying he was but there story did not make the evidence or they changed it later? Protesters are believing that he was executed but he was let off because no clear evidence that he was.


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    Originally posted by chirunner134
    Originally posted by TriDadinAsheville
    Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy The Brown nonsense...just outrageous. He is on tape just robbing a store. This is beyond silly. ...about 4 minutes from a decision. It's not going to be a good night to be out in the greater St. Louis area.
    And that justifies an execution? Where do we live again?
    Well isn't that the issue? witnesses came out at first saying he was but there story did not make the evidence or they changed it later? Protesters are believing that he was executed but he was let off because no clear evidence that he was.

    It would be hard for any rational person to come to the conclusion that he was executed based on the evidence:

    5 Crucial Pieces of Evidence Ferguson Grand Jury Saw

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    No amount of evidence will change minds already made up. Brown's mother does not believe he robbed the store. She said "if, and that's a big if"... Even though Browns friend already said he did and expected to get arrested on the way home. We've seen the evidence of the strong arm robbery even though his mother says he would never do that. She believes, as I'm sure others do that Wilson's testimony is all a lie, even though witnesses in the community cooborated it. Sure... He was executed.
    2014-11-26 3:42 PM
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    Hey man, stop being such a downer.   Free beer and TVs down at the local mall, it's all good.

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    If you already do not trust the police then of course what he said is a lie.
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