We managed to get the last creatine thread deleted.

Without getting into all that, I think most people will concede that there's little benefit to endurance athletes.

Unless they happen to sell creatine.

And those people are stupid idiots!

Thats also a possible side effect of exercise. Easily avoided by taking in more fluids.

I'm confused. "Does improve" or "it is basically useless"?

Feel free to cite any of these studies.

There are plenty to show that it has a beneficial effect for shorter events and explosive/sprinting type of events but not for endurance.

Sorry 'bout that..does NOT improve.......

Sorry for the brainfart.....it should state does NOT improve.

Once again....brain fart while typing....does NOT improve

As someone still learning the science of hydration why would I add a substance into my diet that would increase my risk of dehydration?

Here is a good read from Rice University

Please read:

Creatine Supplementation in Athletes: Review

by Mark A. Jenkins, MD

http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/creatine.html

Key Point for endurance athletes:
Thus, "slow twitch" athletes cannot generate the speed and force of their "fast twitch" cousins, but they can do their thing for a long time. If an endurance athlete needs to dip into the anaerobic range, for a sprint or hill climb, the needed extra energy primarily comes from anaerobic glycolysis of glucose (yielding lactic acid, and that wonderful muscular "burning" sensation.). The ATP-creatine system is not important for endurance athletes

Edit: Here is some info to back all that stated endurance athletes do not need creatine

Gotcha.  That makes a lot more sense.

I'm not anti-creatine either.  I'm just for using it in the appropriate population.