IMKY bike route
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2008-09-23 3:54 PM |
Veteran 211![]() ![]() | Subject: IMKY bike routeOK, i'm signed up for 2009. This will be my first IM. I've read many of the race reports from the last two years. I would like some comments about the climbs,rollers,etc.. on the bike. I'm a fair cyclist, but should I be worried about this ride??? Any input/comments would be awesome. I live in the South, so I'll be training in humidity next summer-just concerned about hills. |
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2008-09-23 4:01 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
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2008-09-23 4:23 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Master 1376![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Chicago | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeAs JeepFleeb mentioned, take it easy on the first 30 miles. It is pancake flat. Not knowing your bike fitness, if you hammer it you will probably pay for it later in the race. The hills aren't bad at all. I trained for it in Chicago (which is flat as can be), and I think I only had to stand up once during the race to get up a hill. I was able to spin up all of them. The thing that got me was the heat and the impact it had on my nutrition, it caused me to blow up on the marathon. I would make sure to figure your nutrition and how the heat will impact you to avoid the marathon problems I had. Just ride lots and you'll do fine. Matt |
2008-09-23 4:30 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Champion 10157![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Alabama | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeOne's man's idea of hard might be another man's piece of cake. :-) I think the a healthy fear or concern of the hills is a good motivational tool. It's better to plan for the worst and be pleasantly suprised than to understimate the hills and be devestated on the course. I noticed something this year about the rollers. I passed a lot of people on the uphill (following a downhill). I'm a big guy and there is no reason I should ever pass anyone on the uphill. So why did I? I think it was becuase I pushed the downhills pretty hard to get as much speed/momentum at the bottom of the hill as I could get so that would carry over as much as possible to the uphill on the next hill. What I found was I often passed people going 15 mph who were already doing a 7 mph sit-and-spin on the uphill. If I was lucky, I'd make it to the top of the hill w/o ever going into the small chainring and 27 gear. Anyway, pushing the downhills worked well for me and I will do this again next year. But to your question of should you be worried? I'd say no...but do try to find some hills to train on. There are no big/long climbs....lot of gradual climbs and rollers but nothing you can't handle. ~Mike |
2008-09-23 4:38 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Champion 10471![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeWell, I live in Dallas, TX and I did VERY little (if any) hill training before Kentucky this year. I just rode, a lot. To try to prepare for a long day on the bike. I didn't have any trouble with the hills... but my entire day was going 10 mph or 28-35 mph. I would pedal down the hills to try to get as much speed as possible (at 5'4" and 125 pounds, I have to pedal to keep up with a big guy coasting). There are nothing but rollers after the first 35-40 miles. Up and down. Up and down. I think if I had done some specific hill training I might not have had achilles tendons issues at the end. Who knows? If you want to just finish, just ride lots and don't worry about hill training. If you want to race it, get in some hill training. |
2008-09-23 5:11 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Extreme Veteran 563![]() ![]() ![]() Pekin, IL | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeWhen they say constant, they mean CONSTANT. When you are doing your hill training, don't just push to train you legs, concentrate on your shifting as well because you will be doing a lot of it. Remember to hydrate, it can be difficult due to the hills and shifting, but if it's hot (plan on it being hot) you will need the fluids for the run. |
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2008-09-23 6:29 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Member 68![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeI did IM louisville this year and took jeep's advice. I took it easy the first 30 miles and only got out of the saddle 2 times the whole ride. It paid off becouse I passed a ton of people on the last 30 miles. Its nothing you cant handle. Just take it easy, you still have to run a marathon in the afternoon heat. |
2008-09-24 12:00 AM in reply to: #1691441 |
Champion 9430![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No excuses! | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeJust ordered my computrainer Real Course Video for Louisville so I will be able to train on "those hills". I will report back soon with how "tough" they are. |
2008-09-24 4:40 AM in reply to: #1691441 |
Extreme Veteran 436![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeRide your own race, and take it from me who was toward the front in the swim, there are a lot of FAST riders. Don't eat the paste. The hills aren't too bad after the first 30 miles or so. The first 11 miles are flat and fast then the hills begin. Nothing too bad, just get in some hills in the base weeks of your program. I live in flat flat flat michigan and had to do some traveling to get in the hills. I didn't have too much trouble with the course. I averaged ~19 mph in training and 17.7mph on race day and that was conservative. |
2008-09-24 6:21 AM in reply to: #1691441 |
Member 39![]() Elizabethtown, KY | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeIt's not bad - BUT...I'm from there, so my "not bad" might be a little skewed. It was no where near as hard as what I ride everyday and was not as hard as I'd been led to believe. There's one substantial hill, but it's got the accompanying downhill so it's nice. I was out of the saddle a lot, but that's a personal riding style choice. Sitting toasts my legs, and I've got the aerobic fitness to take standing pretty well. Do some long hill repeats on a trainer regularly and you'll be fine. |
2008-09-24 8:15 AM in reply to: #1692468 |
Champion 5615![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeThe course wasn't overly difficult from an elevation change perspective. The difficulty in the course comes from the way that the hills come at you in waves. At Wisconsin, you would get a nice uphill and then a corresponding downhill for recovery. At Louisville, the hills are shorter but more frequent, so there is less active recovery time. Factor in the heat and wind, and you have the makings of a challenging course. |
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2008-09-27 8:37 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Veteran 130![]() ![]() Golden, CO | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeI live on the course and everyone here has it right. A CONSERVATIVE approach to the course for the first 70 miles will yield dividends on the way back in and later on the run! Though IMO, if you've done your bike training, it's not the bike course you should be worried about, it's going so hard that you're too drained and unable to handle the heat/humidity/sun later on the run. (Just as a baseline, the ambient temp on the run course the last two years was 100+ w/ over 50% humidity) But for some intel on the course, here's the skinny: - River Road: Pancake flat. The winds are typically still in the am - Left onto 42: Upon taking the left, you'll hit significant hill lasting approx 1mi. Next hour or so are just larger rollers but are net uphill. - Rt onto 1694: Hilliest section of the course. Enjoy the downhill, very shaded area. BE CAREFUL on the downhill!!!! If you make a mistake to the right, you're off a 5-foot drop into rocks. Mistake to the left and you're head-on with athletes coming back up. Be aware of people passing you and of passing others. This is my favorite part of the course and where I do my hillwork, but it's also the most dangerous. A little hint from the local..... when you've made the turnaround and are climbing back out, stay to the RIGHT around the first curve. The road is banked to the left and the right side is net flat; you'll have an extra 1/4 mile of flat instead of climbing. -Rt onto 42: More rollers, net uphill. Very scenic, nice houses and horse farms - Rt onto 393: After the first 3-4 miles, you have IMO the best downhill of the course. This is, like the rest of the course, followed by a long climb. At the end of the road, you'll hit the aid station and for those of you who are mis-behaving; the penalty tent. - Left onto 146: Special Needs will be on your right. Finally, a flat stretch. Flat section lasts about 5 miles before hitting rollers. Nice road here, but you'll have an afternoon headwind and the sun will be beating down starting to warm things up. Follow this through LaGrange and enjoy the crowd on the downhill. LONG downhill to the sharp turn to the left onto BallardsSchool Road. (I think that's the name, I forget) - Left onto BSR: Very shady area, windy road with some climbs. If you're out riding the course before the race, BEWARE OF THE DOGS on this course, they'll chase you. At the end, you have a long downhill followed by a 90 degree right turn. - Rt turn onto OldSligo: Steepest hill of the course, most will get out of the saddle here. - Rt turn into leSprit Parkway: Very sunny and hot. Rollers on this part of the course, and this road is net uphill. You most likely experience a headwind or a cross-wind. Enjoy the scenery here. Some of the most expensing horse-farms in the US are here. You'll riding through a residential area here so the last section is a .5 mile climb to the end of the road. - Left onto Hwy53: This road is newly paved, so the road will absorb a lot of heat. Road is sunny overall, most of the time you'll have a cross-wind that will feel like a headwind; though typically not strong. Decent rollers here. - Left onto 42: if you're riding the course, the old-time store is the best place to stop on the course for water, etc. They have a pump out front that you can douse your head, shirt, etc. One you make a left, you'll normally have a tailwind (depending on what time of day) The next 10 miles are all rollers. A good area for savvy riders to save their legs. *** When you hit 393, you make a left for the 2nd loop **** When you hit this part on the 2nd loop, the rest of the course is net downhill, then flat again down River Road to T2. Hope this helps! As always, if anyone's in town and wants to ride the course, send me an email! |
2008-09-28 7:05 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Expert 815![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Milwaukee, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeThanks for the heads up! Sounds like an interesting course! |
2008-10-01 4:46 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Bob 2194![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Binghamton, NY | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeI took a little different approach to the bike after talking to one of the pros on Sat night. I pushed the flats going out and backed off going up each hill. As soon as I crested the hill I accellerated over the crest and down the hill then backed off going up the hill. This worked like a charm for me and I felt great coming home. Taking it easy is very good advice but if you put the time in on the bike and you know how you feel after 90 miles on a hard training ride then you shouldn't have to be too conservative on the bike. One piece of advice would be to hydrate like hell on the first hour of the bike because swimming for an hour+ in 85 degree water will put you about 1/2 gallon low on fluids before the bike begins. |
2008-10-02 7:42 PM in reply to: #1709931 |
Champion 9430![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No excuses! | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routerstocks3 - 2008-10-01 5:46 PM I took a little different approach to the bike after talking to one of the pros on Sat night. I pushed the flats going out and backed off going up each hill. As soon as I crested the hill I accellerated over the crest and down the hill then backed off going up the hill. This worked like a charm for me and I felt great coming home. Taking it easy is very good advice but if you put the time in on the bike and you know how you feel after 90 miles on a hard training ride then you shouldn't have to be too conservative on the bike. One piece of advice would be to hydrate like hell on the first hour of the bike because swimming for an hour+ in 85 degree water will put you about 1/2 gallon low on fluids before the bike begins. Great advice. I would guess most of us are not use to swimming in such warm water for this distance of a race. Definatly will take a toll on the body a lot more than your usual wetsuit legal IM swim. |
2008-10-04 6:49 PM in reply to: #1691441 |
Member 34![]() | Subject: RE: IMKY bike routeI live in Orlando and did all my bike training on a trainer using hill focused Spinnerval DVD's. The hills were much easier than I anticipated. Because I train in the Florida heat and humidity, I didn't have any problems with that. If I had a choice to train in the heat and humidity and no hills or hills and no heat and humidity, I'd chose to train in the heat and humidity. From what I saw, that seemed to bother other people quite a bit. The hills were not that bad for a flatlander. |
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