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2008-10-01 3:17 PM

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Subject: Let's talk ice baths....
What can you guys and gals tell me about ice baths?? I definetly think I need to start doing them once I start training for Placid next year and want to know all about them. Do you only do them after long workouts? Do you buy a big bag of ice on your way home? Do you use the entire bag of ice? How deep do you need the water? How long do you soak? How effective are they...really?

I ask these stupid questions cuz I tried to do one a few months back while training on the road. The hotel had a kick ice machine so I figured why not try it. I filled the tub up about 4 inches and dumped a liberal amount of ice in. First...it HURT my feet so bad, I only knelt my legs in tryign to keep my feet out. It was awkward. Is this something I just must learn to deal with?

Thanks guys!


2008-10-01 3:22 PM
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Ice baths are wonderful. Here's how I do them.

Get in tub.
Run cold water (all the way cold, no hot).
Fill up to almost cover the tops of thighs.
Dump bags of ice in.
Sports phys guys say 20min. is the amount of time you should stay in.

I find 2 regular size bags of ice is great, or 1 big one from Sam's (20lbs).
If you run the water and dump ice, then get in, you'll hate your life. Getting in while the water is running helps, its not such a shock to the system.



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2008-10-01 3:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....
Here is what I do:

Stop on the way home (If Needed) and get two 7lb Bags of Ice.

Fill the roman tub with just enough cold water to cover my legs. While the tub is filling up, I heat up a huge mug of Broth (Chicken or Veggie is good) and bring that along with RunnersWorld or RunningTimess and get into the tub.

I usually just wear a long sleeve tech shirt or sometimes a hoodie (If it is cold outside).

Then add the ice to the water down by my feet and soak for 10-15 minutes. I will stretch from time to time in the water (Anything that opens up my hips feels sooo goood right then).

When I am done, I get into the shower (Warm) and wash off then off for a nice hot meal.

I never feel cold and the icewater actually tickles my skin before it goes numb
2008-10-01 3:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....

I personally love icing my sore parts.  Especially injured parts.  I have done a 45 degree bath (put 5 lbs of ice in it, but it all melted before I got in), but there is a part of my anatomy that I cannot bring myself to plunge into 32 degree water.  I don't ice bath until I have cooled off and/or stretched after a hard workout.

I find that combining a lot of icing with NSAI has been helping my muscles and joints survive the pounding that 220 lbs has done to my body.

I am not really sensitive to temperature extremes, and in my other hobby, fly fishing, I love to wet wade (no boots) in 55 degree water for hours on end.

2008-10-01 3:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....

I'm sure that everyone has had success with them, but I've never used them (tried twice, no success .... too damn cold for my Aries blood!!)

With increased training load comes an amazing ability by the body to manage recovery.  I am personally of the mindset to let the body do its thing along with rest, recovery sessions and proper nutrition.

YMMV.  Have at it if you want and everyone has given great suggestions on how to do them.  I would just throw out that they aren't really "necessary" if you aren't nursing an injury.  Just my opinion.

2008-10-01 3:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....

Magella - 2008-10-01 4:17 PM 

Do you only do them after long workouts?

Do you buy a big bag of ice on your way home?

Do you use the entire bag of ice?

How deep do you need the water?

How long do you soak?

How effective are they...really?

I used them only after strenuous workouts.  If my muscles are going to be sore, then into the ice bath I go.  Ice baths help recovery time.

I use ice cubes from my freezer, usually dump in the entire tray.

Don't worry about how much ice, worry about temperature.  Ideally, you should be somewhere between 45 and 60 degrees F.  I like mine 55 degrees.

You need the water to cover whatever part of your body (legs) need it.  In my bathtub I only need a few inches.

Soak for 10 minutes, no longer than 15.  After that, icing can have negative effects.

They're worth taking.  But you'll live without them obviously.  The best time to take them is after a hard workout, when you're going to have another hard workout in the near future.

(Protein also helps recovery....and doesn't hurt as bad as freezing water)  Might as well do both though.)



2008-10-01 3:36 PM
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Ice baths are great after long workouts.  I have done them after long runs (16+ miles).  Its a great way to deal with inflamation after all those miles.  Its like icing your entire legs all at once.

I fill tub and get in while water running (all cold).  I let it get to where it just covers my legs and then start adding the ice.  I stay in about 15 minutes or so.  Its really not that bad after the first shock and it definitely helps!  Seems to refresh my legs and cuts down on soreness later in the day.   (You will know it helps when you start looking forward to it during the last couple miles of a run)

2008-10-01 4:08 PM
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I happen to think they work well in making me feel less like death the day after a long run. But that could be because I'm still new to this, so all that stuff helps me recover better. I suppose it's less of a big deal for all you seasoned athletes.

 

2008-10-01 4:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....

pretty much the same as everyone else.. It took me a while to start in the tub with the water running then add in the ice...nice tip...

I notice it helps my ankles a lot the next morning,

2008-10-01 4:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....
I haven't tried the full ice bath yet, but what I find is useful is just ice massages. Two ways I do it:
1) I have a gel ice pack in the freezer, just put it on th elegs on whichever bit needs it the most and move it around. When finished put it straight back in the freezer for next time.
2) Freeze a foam cup of ice. Remove from freezer, peel away about 1 inch of foam and use it to massage legs as it melts. When done, put it back and re-use next time. You might get 3-4 massages out of it.

But love the instructions above and when I get the courage I will try sitting in an ice bath!
2008-10-01 4:57 PM
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I've never done it.

 I find a nice shower afterwards seems to be fine.

Also making sure I cool down properly.  Walking around keeps me loose. 



2008-10-01 6:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....
Don't forget to bring your hot chocolate with you.

Another thing is to slowly move your legs to keep the water moving so the heat released from your legs won't heat the water next your legs but spread it throughout the tub.


2008-10-01 7:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....
I started doing ice baths about 6 weeks ago, after long runs. I find they really help with soreness later that day and the next day. I use ice cubes from trays. During the week on a daily basis, I empty the trays into freezer bags, so I have a couple of freezer bags worth by Saturday. I always get into the water before the ice goes in.

I can't quote any research that says whether or not ice baths work, but for me, I think they greatly help.
2008-10-01 7:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....

Brrrr.  You all are making me cold just reading.    I think I've got a few months yet until I hit a 10 mile run and have to try an ice bath.   Maybe there's an advtange to be a tri newbie. 

Todd

 

2008-10-01 8:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Let's talk ice baths....

While I agree they aren't necessary, they do help a lot, at least for me. I stretch right after my run, buy 20 pounds of ice and grab whatever is in the freezer. I get in the tub in shorts, a fleece top and socks (sometimes two pairs), turn on the cold water and then add the ice when the water gets about halfway up the legs. I sit in it for 20 minutes.

I used to shower first, then ice and get out, but then my legs stayed cold all day so I have started icing first, then showering. I have a significantly lower amount of pain the next day as a result.

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