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Are men natural pursuers?
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Men are pursuers. That's correct. You said it, Sister. End of story.5 Votes - [13.16%]
It's cool that women pursue, or at least initiate contact22 Votes - [57.89%]
Either, and initiative gets lucky more often.11 Votes - [28.95%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

2005-04-15 2:28 PM

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Buttercup
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Subject: Are men natural pursuers?

I've been having a bickering, verbal hairpulling philosophical debate with a misguided naive BTer (who shall remain anonymous unless, of course, he is eager to expose his naivete')  who does not accept that men are pursuers. To wit, that males will pursue a female if they are interested in said female. It's really that simple, isn't it folks? I knew you would agree.



2005-04-15 2:36 PM
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COURT JESTER
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
I'm the OTHER BT'er she's talking about.

I'm telling Renee to at LEAST initiate the contact and see were the conversation goes. IF he wants to persue from there he will. At least this gives her the option of choosing who she's interested in before loser boys can hit on her.
2005-04-15 2:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
Of everyone I've dated, it's been about 50/50 split as to who 'expressed interest' first.

But that's just my experience.

Some *people* pursue, some *people* would prefer to be pursued. Some people are shy and don't 'make a move' unless they get a hint that the other person is interested on some level. Some people need humming bird sized hints, others need a mack truck.

If you're interested in someone, go for it.
2005-04-15 2:45 PM
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Buttercup
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?

Ok, this isn't about whether men want chicks to chase them. It's about whether men will pursue women they are interested in. Let's stay on topic, people!

Sheesh!

2005-04-15 2:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
I think the girl has to give some kind of 'hint' that the pursuit is worth his time. For example, just say in a crowded room, I know there's a hot girl, let's say named Renee, on the other side. I look her way to check her out, but when I look, she makes eye contact but then (let's say a worse case scenario), she snickers. Um, that's a pursuit not worth taking.
2005-04-15 2:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
Oy...


2005-04-15 2:49 PM
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Renee - 2005-04-15 1:45 PM

Ok, this isn't about whether men want chicks to chase them. It's about whether men will pursue women they are interested in. Let's stay on topic, people!

Sheesh!




If they aren't chicken shit, then they should pursue, or at least find out if the inside is attractive as the outside that got their attention. Then see if they want to go into HOT PURSUIT mode. neener neener neener

Same goes for a woman. If she's interested she SHOULD pursue also.
2005-04-15 2:53 PM
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HAH!!! DOUBLE HAH!!! I believe you call those kind of women Stalkers!

Did you ever have a woman calling you, pursuing during your single days? Didn't you snicker with your buddies about having a stalker?



Edited by Renee 2005-04-15 2:54 PM
2005-04-15 2:54 PM
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Sorry, Renee. I don't agree with you. I think women control the game (of pursuit) from start to finish and if you don't think that, you're not paying attention to the subtleties. The men who completely came out of nowhere in 'pursuit' of me were quickly turned down (I may have been interested if they'd allowed me to at least notice them first). Yes, I usually allowed men to do the actually asking out (not always, some men just don't get it) but I feel like I almost always initiated contact first (verbally or non-verbally) and gave the go-ahead to be asked out.

The model of men as pursuers and women as gatekeepers is outdated and boring.... Live a little, girl! Pursue!

2005-04-15 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
Et tu, Brutusette?
2005-04-15 2:58 PM
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Renee - 2005-04-15 12:53 PM

HAH!!! DOUBLE HAH!!! I believe you call those kind of women Stalkers!

Did you ever have a woman calling you, pursuing during your single days? Didn't you snicker with your buddies about having a stalker?

Um, geez, what do you call pursuit?!?! Call a guy once or twice, if he never takes advantage of the opportunity, drop him like a hot potato. There's a pretty big difference between pursuing and stalking....



2005-04-15 2:59 PM
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Renee - 2005-04-15 12:55 PM Et tu, Brutusette?
And me? Huh? Looking for examples?
2005-04-15 3:00 PM
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NEENER NEENER NEENER !!!!!!!!!!!!!
2005-04-15 3:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?

I'm not talking about what I consider it Kim. I'm talking about what "they" the opposing sex call it. We have a youngster here in our office, 25, he calls his ex-girlfriend his Stalker because she expresses an interest in getting back together. If he were interested in pursuing her, he would be calling her his Squeeze, not his Stalker.

2005-04-15 3:01 PM
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tupuppy - 2005-04-15 3:00 PM NEENER NEENER NEENER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evil Dead cemetery scene eye poke!!!

2005-04-15 3:03 PM
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Well, she's obviously not dropping it after he's expressed (however subtly) that he doesn't want the relationship. That's simple enough.

Edited by kimj81 2005-04-15 3:10 PM


2005-04-15 3:05 PM
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Renee - 2005-04-15 2:01 PM

tupuppy - 2005-04-15 3:00 PM NEENER NEENER NEENER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evil Dead cemetery scene eye poke!!!





OUCH!!!!!! and....May the breath of a thousand camels consume you.

Edited by tupuppy 2005-04-15 3:06 PM
2005-04-15 3:07 PM
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It's ok and flattering for a woman to pursue a man. However, there is a thin line between pursuing and stalking. I think sometimes women get a bad rap in this department becasuse it seems there generally is not much middle ground. Women seem to be either 1. always waiting for Men to approach them (lighten up and introduce yourself, it's not 1915) or 2. desparately eyeing up EVERY and any man as a potential mate and hinging all her thoughts on finding a boyfriend. Somewhere between is fine.
2005-04-15 3:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
Renee - 2005-04-15 1:45 PM

Ok, this isn't about whether men want chicks to chase them. It's about whether men will pursue women they are interested in. Let's stay on topic, people!

Sheesh!



Okay, I'll clarify. Yes, men will pursue if they are interested *and* if they think that the other person is also interested.

-C
2005-04-15 3:19 PM
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Ok, folks, you're forcing my pedagogic hand. I'm pulling out third-party reference book. Stand back.

"Men, for the most part, like to pursue women. We like not knowing if we can catch you. We feel rewarded when we do. Especially when the chase is a long one. We know there was a sexual revolution. (We loved it.) We know women are capable of running governments, heading multinational corporations, and raising loving children — sometimes all at the same time. That, however, doesn't make men different... When it comes to men, deal with us as we are, not how you'd like us to be." I know it's an infuriating concept — that men like to chase and you have to let us chase you. I know. It's insulting. It's frustrating. It's unfortunately the truth. My belief is that if you have to be the aggressor, if you have to pursue, if you have to do the asking out, nine times out of ten, he's just not that into you. (And we want you to believe you're one of the nine, ladies!) I can't say it loud enough: You, the superfox reading this book, are worth asking out. (He's Just Not That Into You, by some people)

2005-04-15 3:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Are men natural pursuers?
Renee - 2005-04-15 2:19 PM

Ok, folks, you're forcing my pedagogic hand. I'm pulling out third-party reference book. Stand back.

"Men, for the most part, like to pursue women. We like not knowing if we can catch you. We feel rewarded when we do. Especially when the chase is a long one. We know there was a sexual revolution. (We loved it.) We know women are capable of running governments, heading multinational corporations, and raising loving children — sometimes all at the same time. That, however, doesn't make men different... When it comes to men, deal with us as we are, not how you'd like us to be." I know it's an infuriating concept — that men like to chase and you have to let us chase you. I know. It's insulting. It's frustrating. It's unfortunately the truth. My belief is that if you have to be the aggressor, if you have to pursue, if you have to do the asking out, nine times out of ten, he's just not that into you. (And we want you to believe you're one of the nine, ladies!) I can't say it loud enough: You, the superfox reading this book, are worth asking out. (He's Just Not That Into You, by some people)




STUBBORN, ISN'T SHE??? HEEHEE WSSSPPPppppppppppp *raspberry to you


2005-04-15 3:26 PM
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Renee,

Sweetheart, love is simple. If a man is interested in a woman he might persue he might not. He'll call or not. But if a man WANTS to be with a woman then he will do anything he needs to, to make that happen. And when I say wants to be with, I don't mean sexually, I just mean he's found the girl for him. Men play around with all kinds of women but if he's serious about a girl then he will do anything to let that girl know he's serious about her. He'd move, change jobs, dress better, go to school, whatever it takes. If a man isn't doing that for you he's really not all that interested. He's just playing.  And he's not interested in anything but one thing. And then he'll move on. It's so simple and see-through it just boggles my mind how many women are incredulous when the man they've been dating suddenly drops them like a hot potato when all along he hasn't given any indication that he's serious about them. It's like why are you dating him? Duh????

2005-04-15 3:28 PM
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coredump - 2005-04-15 3:10 PM
Renee - 2005-04-15 1:45 PM

Ok, this isn't about whether men want chicks to chase them. It's about whether men will pursue women they are interested in. Let's stay on topic, people!

Sheesh!

Okay, I'll clarify. Yes, men will pursue if they are interested *and* if they think that the other person is also interested. -C

*sheepish look*  That outburst was meant for my nemesis in debate, the puppy guy. You are much too nice to outburst to, Coredump. Oh, and I've made that pasta dish 3 times so far.

2005-04-15 3:31 PM
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infosteward - 2005-04-15 3:26 PM

Renee,

 Men play around with all kinds of women but if he's serious about a girl then he will do anything to let that girl know he's serious about her. He'd move, change jobs, dress better, go to school, whatever it takes. If a man isn't doing that for you he's really not all that interested.

Vindication! Thank you, Ovetta. You said it quite eloquently. Did you vote appropriately?

2005-04-15 3:33 PM
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PUP PUP PUPEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

WOOF WOOF WOOF (translation...Look who's winning the poll!)
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