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2009-07-16 6:36 AM

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Subject: 0-HIM by 13 September?
Wanted to throw this out there for the general group.  Do you think and average person could go from doing nothing out of the ordinary to completing a HIM between now and 13 September?  I did a HIM last year but have had minimal motivation this year and a bunch of surgeries.  Other than being fat and out of shape right now I am fine.  I obviously am not looking for a podium spot, just to hopefully improve my crappy 7:20 finish from last year in a different race.  Last year I started training in January, went until May and burnt myself out for the July race.  I quit doing almost all workouts 2 months prior to the race but still completed it, wondering if you think I could do the opposite, you know, no working out until two months prior then cramming?
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2009-07-16 6:59 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?

Since your body is familiar with the distance/training it may not need as much time as last year, however, 2 months doesn't seem enough time to ramp up.  If you were talking about a sprint or Oly then I think you've got a shot.

Also, with the training demands of a 70.3 you would encounter in the next couple of months you risk injury.  I recommend starting/continuing your training for a shorter distance and get amped for a 70.3 early next year.

2009-07-16 10:35 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?
I agree, going from nothing to a 7 hour event in 2 months is just not a good idea, especialy if you are recovering from some kind of injury/surgery.  I think 6 months is a good window, can be done in 4, 2 is just inviting pain and suffering if one does not already have a base in place.
2009-07-16 10:42 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?
Can you do it? probably, should you di it? That's the questions and without knowing anything about you but since you mentioned the word surgeries I would say probably not.

My suggestion (and it is only that) would be to choose a smaller race (sprint, maybe Oly) and focus on getting back in shape; get out of the funk and into a working out regularly rhythm. Make sure you are doing enough to get back in shape, lose weight and avoid injuries. You could mix Tri -training with other stuff to keep your mind motivated and hopefully by the end of the year you are back in a groove. Maybe choose a winter/spring running race (i.e. half marathon) and then start thinking about a HIM for late spring early summer.

Whatever you choose, good luck and be smart about your training
2009-07-16 10:43 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?
NavyTRIChief - 2009-07-16 6:36 AM Wanted to throw this out there for the general group.  Do you think and average person could go from doing nothing out of the ordinary to completing a HIM between now and 13 September?  I did a HIM last year but have had minimal motivation this year and a bunch of surgeries.  Other than being fat and out of shape right now I am fine.  I obviously am not looking for a podium spot, just to hopefully improve my crappy 7:20 finish from last year in a different race.  Last year I started training in January, went until May and burnt myself out for the July race.  I quit doing almost all workouts 2 months prior to the race but still completed it, wondering if you think I could do the opposite, you know, no working out until two months prior then cramming?
Opinions appreciated.

Scott


I'm gonna say no.

Could you complete it? Maybe. But why? Go out almost completely unprepared and I just can't see how it would be a worthwhile experience. And it sounds like the odds of improving on 7:20 are slim. Take the time to train for it. You'll enjoy it a lot more.
2009-07-16 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?
I'm gonna go with "no"  (tho I'm certainly no expert, having only recently suffered thru my 1st one) And furthermore, why "cram?"  I mean this should be fun.  I too think it's just inviting pain, and possibly injury.


2009-07-16 11:22 AM
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I agree with everyone above - if you want to improve time as you have stated, and I am inferring that you are also wanting to improve your overall experience - trying to do it in 2 months is not going to get you the result you are looking for.

 

It is best to pick a different race early next season, and work your way through sprint and oly again just to get comfy with the training demands and volume. 

 

A huge lessoned learned from me - to avoid burn out, do what your plan says, but do not go voerboard and listen to your body.

2009-07-16 11:38 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?
sorry, I'm in the "NO" camp... it seems like it's ALL or NOTHING with you... you started training early last year and burned out before the race... hmmmmm sounds like too much too soon? And now, you're actually thinking of doing the same thing to yourself? If you want to live a healthy life, start with healthy goals... work towards a Sprint or Oly for September 13... ramp up SLOWLY, you'll be less likely to burn out and then you can build on your fitness for longer term goals.

I'm no expert, I'm just stating what I see... I, like you, set massive goals for myself... I have learned the hard way to step back and take it more slowly so I can achieve what I want... besides, it'll be sweeter if I have to wait for it!
2009-07-16 11:59 AM
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Subject: RE: 0-HIM by 13 September?
There's nothing in your logs recently, so I don't know if you've been doing any training at all. I think I would say if you can comfortably complete a 6 mile long run, 30 mile long bike, and 1500 yard swim TODAY, you MIGHT be able to build up your distances enogh to FINISH an HIM in September. But if you decide to try it, I think you should keep your expectations low, and do pretty much all of your training in an easy aerobic zone - forget any "speed" training. And if you begin to feel like it's too much, back off. As others have said, it would probably be more sensible to set your sights on a sprint or Olympic race this fall, and maybe begin to build your base back up for another HIM go next year.
2009-07-16 8:20 PM
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Another "NO!" here. If you are lokking to avenge your HIM performance from last year, I don't think you have the time (or the overall good health, given your history) to improve on it dramatically.

If you commit to a few sprints and maybe an oly or two over the rest of the season........and are successful at them........and carry that success into the off-season........and train wisely throughout the winter........and start next season with a few olys and maybe a sprint........then by mid-summer you should be ready to take a serious run at a successful half-iron. At that point you will have a good idea of your nutritional needs, you will have lots of experience with transition zones, and your pacing will likely have fallen into place for you. Beyond that, you will (hopefully) have a base that will be able to handle the rigors of a solid half-iron performance.

Take your time with this, make your workouts count, and approach that distance with the respect it commands -- otherwise, it will almost certainly have its way with you, and you sure don't want that to happen!!
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