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2009-09-10 8:27 PM

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Subject: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?

long story short, i tore the labrum in both my hips and had arthroscopy to fix it.  when asked how i did it I couldn't give any answer.  i had no idea.  there was no specific injury that had occured, they were just torn.

so, i'm flipping through our local tri magazine, tri-dc, and see an article on "hidden causes of lower extremity pain in endurance athletes".

here is the paragraph that caught my eye:

"we have seen a dozen female cyclists with hip pain who turned out to have labral tears of the hip.  The common thread among these injured athletes is that they are using relatively long cranks for their leg lengths.  The causes of the injury are excessive shear forces in the hip joint as the power phase of the pedal cycle begins.  After all, the common crank length formula was designed for and by men.  Why should a 5 ft 4 inch woman use the same cranks as a 6 ft tall man?  Fortunately, the alternatives for shorter cranks are increasing.  Shimano is producing a 165mm crank in their DuraAce line.  There are atleast 4 other alternatives available for cranks that are 160mm or shorter.  There is a wealth of misguided pseudo-science in the popular literature arguing for long crank lengths; the few real scientific experiments that have been performed fail to support that notion. (see also: www.nettally.com/palmk/crread.html)"--- the article is by allen delaney, md and mary delaney, pt

NEVER before have i read anything about this before.  it was not mentioned to me by my sports med doc as a possible culprit, nor did any bike sales person mention this to me in my recent quest for a new bike.  basically, i had surgery and then hopped back on my bike that could have caused the problem to begin with. 

to be honest, i didn't even know there were differences in crank length.  i also didn't know that your crank length is written on the inside of it.  oh the lessons still to be learned.

i just wanted to pass along what i have discovered in hopes of helping someone else from making the same mistake.



2009-09-10 8:47 PM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
All my four bikes are 170 cranks. You can see the size stamped on them. Most bike mfg spec bikes differently based on frame size and thus person most likely to ride that bike.

If you check out women's frames and read the parts offered in packages the larger frames have different size cranks than small frames.

That is one of the pluses of women specific design bikes as they spec most parts to fit women better..narrower handlebars, different crank arm lengths, often women versions of certain things like easier to reach brakes on road bikes, etc.

One issue is often women aren't as educated about parts and options that they could consider when purchasing a bike. Most shops will swap out parts even money if you need different size or length in a part if you do it when you purchase the bike.

My daughter has very small hands and needs to have her shifters and brakes adapted even though she is 5'4" and full grown.

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2009-09-10 9:05 PM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
Interesting...would not have suspected crank size as being a culprit in some of my ongoing injuries...but now I'm wondering.  I'm 5'6" and the crank on my 51cm Cervelo S2 is a 172.5. 
2009-09-10 9:21 PM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
This is something I worried about recently when I went from my road bike to a tri bike.  My road bike has 165, and my tri bike is a 170 crank.  Thanks for the heads up.  If I develop any hip pain, I'll know where to look first!
2009-09-10 9:27 PM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
Interesting indeed.  Mine is 172.5, and a coach I respect a lot suggested I think about a 170, but this was more having to do with the hip angle and then running off the bike i think.
2009-09-10 9:28 PM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
It's not the size it's how you use it. 


2009-09-11 12:31 AM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
Keep in mind the difference between a 170 and 172.5 is minimal and most people won't notice the diffference (but some are more sensitive and do). The difference between a 165 and 170 is quite a bit and is very noticeable for most.

Too long crank will stress your hipflexors and cause you to run like crap... too short and you will stress you knees and run hurting... neither is very good.

Luckily, most manufacturers do put on cranks that are proportionate to the bike size, so most of the time you're ok.
2009-09-11 8:50 AM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
thank you for posting this!  i honestly never would have thought that crank size could cause those issues.  definitely something to investigate!
2009-09-11 9:03 AM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
My cranks range from 172.5 on my tri bike to 165 on my track bike, and others are in between. I do have long legs though.

BUT my real question is how did you decide when it was time for surgery? And did you have a repair, or just a debridement?

I have labral tears, and while PT is fixing a lot of my weaknesses, it hasn't really totally alleviated my symptoms--esp. while active.
2009-09-11 9:22 AM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
I would think crank length would be more an issue concerning leg length than overall height... I ride with 172.5, but I also have a 34.5 inch inseam, longer than many men, so I think I am fine.

Should be more of an issue (I think?) for those women that have disproportionately short legs.
2009-09-11 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: PSA: ladies! How big is your crank?
shelly123 - 2009-09-11 7:22 AM I would think crank length would be more an issue concerning leg length than overall height....


Fit is #1, but there are other factors too. As 'mmrocker13' points out, you might have different lengths for different purposes. On a track bike, for instance, you would typically use a shorter crank because it facilitates the higher cadences required in track racing. Some people use longer cranks on the MTB to increase leverage for climbing.


2009-09-11 11:38 AM
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True. (And it keeps you from clipping a pedal on the track ;-))
2009-09-11 12:22 PM
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