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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok to start I been have a rough few days. We are at the local strip club for lunch pretty normally for us since I don’t care food good and cheap and the guys like it. “Matt” looks over at me and say what the **ck is up with you, you better not be become a woman on us. I lost it. I stood up and screamed what the **ck would give away that I am a woman my pink shoelaces in my boots or my purple hard hat maybe my name or maybe my 38 DDD. I sat back down. Then said more clam "Culture shock here boys I am a woman why do you think I make sure you all know when it your wife’s birthday or when it any other special day cause as a woman I know it feels good when stuff is remembered like that. We all know I have the guts to do what every need to be done to get the job done this in no way affects that I am." I left and went back to work never said boo to anther soul all day. I have be around this for yrs never lost it before. I heard many times that no woman that just Amy or you got balls so big you should have a c*ck. Why do people and it not always guys many woman have said why would you do that... it a guy job. Am I missing something here is the fact I work in the trades decide that I can’t be a woman? I always knew it not be a cake walk but right now I not sure I can keep going. Amy |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Nosey me needs more info. I'm not sure what provoked "Matt." Maybe he's just a big jerk? Also, I'm not really sure why you're having lunch at the strip club. The food was good or cheap? Doesn't matter, I suppose. Just wondering, have you or him been acting differently lately? Why the outburst? I used to play hockey with a bunch of guys who considered me "one of the guys." Some people (M or F) are really threatened when someone else shows better skills. Just curious. Edited by Happycow 2005-06-24 4:56 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok What is it you do for a living????? As a woman in an extemely male dominated profession ( less than 3% of orthopedic surgeons are women) I understand. Sometimes it is just the one final comment that pushes you over the edge after letting the other 100,000 comments roll off your back. He probably had it coming. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am a pipefitter and less the .5 % of them are woman I do love what I do most times "matt " is the foreman he normally ok... the strip club thing is noramlly fri afternoon jsut thought I explain where I was scream at a bunch of men lol as for my breast size do look at tan lines there a pic of them burnt thanks Amy |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I also work in a male dominated field. Engineering in the power sector. At this point - I'm the boss, so I don't get much crap - but I sure used to. Screaming is probably not the most productive, but sometimes it needs to be said. In college I worked as a maintenance worker at a coal plant. None of the other guys would even talk to me, except to ask if I wanted to shower off with them in the gang showers at the end of a shift. One day, I rasped my thumb with a metal rasp and let loose with a bunch of explitives - )@#(*&$ - IT HURT. After that I was "just one of the guys" in stead of the "cute college girl" I USUALLY respond to the comments with humor, but if someone is really irritating I will make it clear that I don't need their crap and they can stuff the attitude, I'm good at what I do and have nothing to apologize for. Basically - You go, girl - do what you need to do to stay sane out there. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I guess I would like to say that men and women ARE different so what's the big deal? Why try to make two things that are different, equal to themselves? It just doesn't make sense. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steve- - 2005-06-25 10:54 AM I guess I would like to say that men and women ARE different so what's the big deal? Why try to make two things that are different, equal to themselves? It just doesn't make sense. It's not the differences that irritate me - they make life interesting. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() That stinks. Maybe you should stop hanging out with people that don't seem to treat you in the way you wish to be treated. Just my 2 cents, I don't know all the particulars of the situation, but my general rule is that if someone treats me in a way I don't like I tell them and then I stop hanging out with them unless they apologize sincerely. Though that might be tougher if you work with them and are part of a team. Edited by lablover 2005-06-25 12:24 PM |
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Frugal Gear Geek![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Blue collar work still is a place were ball busting is normal. What is unexceptable is when it crosses the line. Sometimes it is what is said, but more often how it is said. You are obviously an idividual who is not affraid to be her self. If someone crosses the line letting them know is fair game. Maybe it is time to set a few more ground rules as to what you feel is inapropriate. If your crew is like most, you are more family than co-workers after awhile. Treat them like a family, otherwise, it is just a job and do not worry about making friends. Hope this helps. Good luck and keep up the fight |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 38 triple D!?! Okay, not a guy ... definitely a woman! I just had to comment ... :-) Seriously though, I think that there is no right or wrong about your having blown up the other day. Working in a many dominated domain, you are probably constantly bombarded by little, and not so little, comments on your sexuality, your femininity and a host of other sides of your personality. I think that all this way on your mind in one way or another and hearing : "ck, it's up with you, you better not be become a woman on us". Your senses just reeled at the thought that you could not "become a woman" because you are just that ... a woman. You should just tell these guys in no uncertain terms that you are a woman in every sense of the word. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The guys at work are important to me. Honestly putting my life in there hands daily. The side comment fly back and forth all the time and I never had an issue with it before as I said but yesterday was a bad day and I lost it. I kinda have figured out why ( to embarrassing to explian) and well think I will have to do something about it but also monday at saftey meeeting that always a joke time but we do get stuff settle just remind them I am just me and my gender is not going to change never has never will but that I still can lay a better bead then all of them and still have no fear. As already been said I don't want to be the same as or equal to a man. I don't want to be put down for being a woman. Amy |
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Frugal Gear Geek![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I like the plan of action on Monday, best of luck. |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() When I worked on a tugboat, my captain told the other workers I was in college and they didn't talk to me for 2 days. Some people just don't have a clue.... Lucky for me it was only a summer job and I only had to put up with it for a few months. You're in a different situation than me since it's your profession and the people you work with make your daily life either happy or sad. It may not be fair that guys outnumber you but you have to make it known when something makes you feel uncormfortable. If your co-workers have any decency or compassion they will recognize that you are uncomfortable with their comments and change their behavior to make you feel more welcome. Bottom line: you must let them know when you are uncorfortable. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() At work had are meeting ..... they said there sorry but I am actting more like a girl as of late but they could not tell me how ??????? Ok one day I wore my hair in a pony tail instead of a french braid cuase my arms were to sore for the swim the day before to braid my hair. I have not wore diffrent clothes I have not bitched about anything new.... they had no answer either when I asked. They told me that I am one of them and there not sure how to handle me as a woman not sure what that means either .. they all agreed I can lay better bead then them and that I have no fear same as always they just say I am diffrent now. The only thing that I can think of is endorphins? Is this possible ?? Well they all waiting for me hehehe they think I logging the meeting minutes still. We did talk some real safety stuff too 5 point harness ... how I hate them any way any one have any other idea love to here them Amy |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi, Any, It sounds like they're not sure what to do with you if you get "girly" on them. Maybe they know how to talk to the guys or their wives but no one in between? From your fitness goals, it seems to me that maybe your view of yourself is changing, too. They'll get used to it, just keep letting them know that you're still the same person they know and love, but some things are getting upgraded! Keep at it and good luck! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If you are losing weight, getting in shape, and feeling better, it's probably not you it is them. You are starting to look more like a woman to them so they have started to see you more like a woman. For some men this means that you aren't a part of their crowd anymore. The only thing you can do here is to continue to be who you are. Call them on it when they misbehave just like you always have. They may or may not get comfortable with you again. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do here. As I said earlier, your best weapon is probably humor. It's hard to get angry with someone who laughs with you. With time, most of the men will get used to the new you and your new look. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thanks yea yesterday was ok after the meeting but I not lost enoght weight to make a diffrent size even so I don't think they notice .. them just instead I am diffrent I really do see it oh well. But work being stress filled has been hard on me need to let it go..............thank God it a short week. 4 weeks till a holiday Amy |
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![]() Oooh I love to analyze things to death! My theory...as you are changing your lifestyle with fitness, you are gaining a new kind of confidence. Before this change in your lifestyle, you laughed and acted more as part of the crowd. Now, with more confidence, you want to say more what's on your mind. You are not becoming different from "one of the guys", but you are becoming more daring, more confident, and when you think something, you want to say it (and I don't think that's a masculine or feminine thing, it's a confidence thing). And for your co-workers, it's different and they don't know what to contribute it to, so they contribute it to the obvious...you're a woman. Amy, you are amazing! Edited by zagagirl 2005-06-28 10:02 AM |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I feel your pain ![]() I've been working with guys for over 10 years. I work for IT (computers). Girls are always rare in my department. First I worked for a company where I was the only girl. It was a small private company that turned to "entertainment online" and at the end I had to put up with porn screen savers and all that... I dressed in jeans and timberland boots all the time. I had to program and fix computers. The truth is I became one of them. At the end tt bothered me, I didn't notice but I lost my girly side. Even my husband looked at me like one of the guys. I changed jobs, I got divorced.... I am still surrounded by boys at work but this time I make sure I stay on the girly side... What a difference! Food may be cheap at the strip club (specially if you get to see the boobs) but what message are you sending them? You have to draw the line on the things that bother you. I think they are getting mixed signals from you. Edited by clflgrl 2005-06-28 1:18 PM |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for everyone support today was 1 day things felt like normal Amy |
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