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 2006-01-26 12:45 AM |
Master  1867     The real USC, in the ghetto of LA |  Subject: American MinersI grew up my whole life in california (except when i was in the military; in which i was treated poorly by the locals so i ddint care about anything that affected them.), we have little to no mining here in the sunny state. with the sago tragedy, i feel sickened. miners live a hard life, their kids see the mine as their way to get work; the same way a kid in the getto sees his gang. As much as there are so many crusaders in our country who speak out, i am saddened that so many have not spoken about the harsh conditions of our miners. This is a hard job, with high risk. The cost of extra safty precautions are not that much in comparison to the work that these fine folks do for us. (granted if we MOVED to nuclear power things would be much better; THANK YOU GREEN PEACE) Why are people not so concered about our miners. given in the sago mine, the guys fallowed the "rules," go to the back and wait for rescue; had they just walked forward they all would have survived. im not a bleeding heart liberal, but it sickens me that i hear so many crusades and not one for our miners. I did write my congress man (it IS a man), and i told him that i expect a federal bill to cover these type of accidents. i had one really crappy job (in no way like mining), and i remember the intestinal fortitue (military?) it took to go to work everyday. i have so much love for military, fire persons, police, teachers, and miners. when i see any of them (typically in a grocery store) i make an a$$ of myself to thank these folks. (i guess it goes back to when i was a soldier and i rememeber people gave my dirty looks like i was dirty; and those that thanked me [my fav was kids who would point and say "look mommy/daddy its GI Joe."]) just my rant..... rant over.... |
| 2006-01-26 6:34 AM in reply to: #332112 |
Queen BTich 12411  , | Subject: RE: American Miners Look! He's drunk again! |
| 2006-01-26 6:45 AM in reply to: #332112 |
| Crystal Lake, IL | Subject: RE: American Miners agree, 10-4, affirmative, hear you loud and clear, you're 5x5. I couldn't agree with you more. Excellent post.
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| 2006-01-26 6:02 PM in reply to: #332112 |
Champion 7558 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: American Miners Definitely a tragedy, but keep a couple of things in mind: Mining isn't even the most lethal occupation here in the USA. (Farming, forestry, and agriculture is worse in terms of total deaths and fatality rate.) Fatalities in mining in the USA get lower (on average) year over year. Mining in the USA is an order of magnitude less lethal than some other countries. When you get a chance, go look up CFR56 (Code of Federal Regulations). The sad thing is every one of those entries is a response to some fatality in the past. Do you ever drive without your seatbelt? (even around the block) Do you ever drive when you are too tired? Do you ever drive when you are distracted or otherwise not mentally engaged in the task of driving? Do you ever speed? How fast do you drive through school zones? Every one of these is covered by some law or regulation in at least some states yet we continue to ignore the law because we won't "get caught." Sometimes the consequences are worse than a ticket. They psychology of getting people engaged in their own safety and welfare is daunting. I'm glad we're getting better. Fewer incidents, more successful rescues. |
| 2006-01-27 3:26 AM in reply to: #332151 |
Master 1867 The real USC, in the ghetto of LA | Subject: RE: American Miners |
| 2006-01-27 1:29 PM in reply to: #332112 |
Master 1462 Michigan | Subject: RE: American Miners Yeah it's pretty sad the string of mining deaths. Mining makes my job look like a piece of cake. My hats off to all the miners, they are a hardcore bunch. |
| 2006-01-27 3:15 PM in reply to: #332112 |
Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: American Miners The recent mining incidents are very sad. I really feel for those people. When younger, I worked at some canadian coal mines for about 15 years. At one point I could have gone underground, joining my younger brother, but chose to stay in above ground jobs at the processing plants and open pit operations. However, for the last 8 years there, I was on the mine's emergency response team and we had some training in underground firefighting and rescue before the underground tunnels flooded and were closed. I've since left the mines behind but I still have family working there. |
| 2006-01-28 10:26 PM in reply to: #333465 |
Master 1867 The real USC, in the ghetto of LA | Subject: RE: American Miners Micawber - 2006-01-27 3:15 PM The recent mining incidents are very sad. I really feel for those people. When younger, I worked at some canadian coal mines for about 15 years. At one point I could have gone underground, joining my younger brother, but chose to stay in above ground jobs at the processing plants and open pit operations. However, for the last 8 years there, I was on the mine's emergency response team and we had some training in underground firefighting and rescue before the underground tunnels flooded and were closed. I've since left the mines behind but I still have family working there. having worked at the mines, did you FEEL safe? or did you know and feel the danger? |
| 2006-01-28 11:06 PM in reply to: #332112 |
Elite 3972 Reno | Subject: RE: American Miners These accidents are terrible tragedies for the family, the communities and the industry. They tear me up to, working in the mining industry as I have for 20 years, thinking "those could be people I know". (I am a geologist). Coal mining in the US has risen 82% in the past 35 years while the fatalites have fallen 93%. Mining is a safer industry than agriculture, construction, etc. Mining accidents are traumatic when they are catastrophic, resulting in multiple deaths. They are very publisized. http://www.nma.org/statistics/pub_mining_safety.asp It is true that this huge improvement was built on the backs of each accident, with new regulations from each one. If a company is negligent, there is hell to pay, as there should be. I live in a state and a town where to work at the mines means you are smart, competant, hard working, and well paid. But not downtrodden. Miners take pride in their work. You carry your MSHA as you carry your driver's license. Awards and bonuses for safety outweigh awards for production. Instilling a safety culture is not a once and done event, but a constant awareness raising, constant training. When I go in a mine, surface or underground, I feel reasonably safe. (At least in North America. In Africa - lordy! I was afraid.)
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| 2006-01-30 8:29 AM in reply to: #332112 |
Champion 7558 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: American Miners |
| 2006-01-30 10:15 AM in reply to: #334606 |
Elite 2777 In my bunk with new shoes and purple sweats. | Subject: RE: American Miners McFuzz - 2006-01-30 9:29 AM Canada just rescued 67 miners... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060130/ap_on_re_ca/canada_mine_fire In keeping with tradition of recent threads I must inquire if Chuck Norris, Jack Bauer, Vin Diesel, or Mr. T were involved in the rescue..........or maybe the cause. |
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