Cheyney Shooting: Coverup?

Well, in instances like this, what other source of information is there *but* the press? I mean, the White House isn't exactly forthcoming. If this wasn't a big deal, why didn't they just issue a statement when they had the information? This probably was just an accident, but the manner in which they handled itsure makes it seem like they are hiding something.

And you know what? This kind of thing is exactly what the press is for. If it weren't for the press, we'd just get white-washed misinformation; we'd only hear about what they wanted us to hear about. And I want more than that. Any American should.

The White House is free to dispute the timeline and other circumstances, but this stuff is fair ground for discussion.

See my edit above.

Why is there a White House press corps? Why is there a Whit House Press Secretary.

The Fourth Estate keeps the politicians as honest as they can. 

Because how our elected officials handle their daily lives reflects on how they are likely to manage their office.

-Chris 

Really?  I wonder if W farted under the covers last night and held Laura under there too?

You're opening a whole new can of worms if you really mean that.

I have to disagree with this.  A sitting Vice President shooting off a firearm that results in an inury to someone under any circumstances is newsworthy.  That's a lot different than Katie Couric walking into my office and saying she has a right to ask me for my life story.

How does the Secret Service deal with the concept of a group of men with loaded guns around the VP anyway?  How can they protect him in that situation?  If the roles were reversed would they be jumping on the lawyer and would he be in jail right now?  Do the rules regarding their responsibility all end with "...unless they are hunting."? 

Like cheating on your wife or driving drunk and killing a girl?

Yes. Exactly. 

So you don't think Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy have integrity in the professional sense?

Just curious.

No, not really.  I think Clinton was a good President, but definitely a serial philanderer. And I've never been a big fan of Ted.

So although Clinton had no profession integrity, he was a good President?  That sorta speaks against somebody's personal life having anything to do with the job they do, but anyway....

I'm not big on caring what our elected officials do in their daily lives, and that included Clinton.  Now if they're complete scum that's different, and I put Ted Kennedy in that category as well as a few others in both parties.

Ok, well I was just curious about your views.  Interesting.

I didn't say he had no professional integrity. I meant the Lewinsky thing called into question his integrity. Definitley a mark against him. Should it have been made public? That's debatable. Sometimes I say yes, sometimes I say know. I get both arguments on that issue.

I base my judgement on Clinton (and the Bush administration, for that matter) on balance of their entire record, not just one incident. And the Bush administration has a record of ongoing record of subterfuge that puts Nixon to shame.

A will say that, to me, that is a bigger issue than philandedring. But both are no good. 

And I will comment that again, the Bush administration is defended by playing the Clinton card. Nice work there. 

Now see, I was trying to be all nice, and you have to go and misrepresent what I said again.

The original quote was about how an elected official's personal life reflects on the job they do.  I simply asked if it applied in the opposite situation.  I'm not defending Cheney, nor am I attacking Clinton.  I could have used anybody for the example, but the more infamous ones are the first that come to mind.  I was looking to see if that standard is applied evenly.  Based on your response, it's not.

C'mon...you know your question wa a loaded one. We were talking the Bush admin, and you bought up Kennedy and Clinton. You knew exactly what you were doing...  

I was doing exactly what I said I was doing.  I was trying to see if the standard was applied evenly over a range of people.  I'm not tricky, and I rarely have ulterior motives when I post something.  I'm pretty much a "what you see is what you get" kinda guy.

I think it was a pretty logical line of thought and questioning.  If you feel this way about somebody you don't like, then do you feel the same way about somebody you do like?  What's wrong with that?

Heard about a bumper sticker this morning:  "I'd rather go hunting with Cheney than for a drive with Kennedy"

I guess I don't see what the hullabaloo is about.  In McLellan's press conference a brilliant media member asked "would it have ben more serious if he had died?"  well, ..... duh... and followed up with "Has there been discussion whether resignation is appropriate?"  huh?? 

I think the media is just insulted and crying.  "Why weren't WE told about this sooner?"  There is no traveling press corp with the veep (at least there was not on this trip).   I don't think it's a reflection on how Cheney governs (whatever that is) that he didn't pick up a cell phone and call CNN.

Is there a coverup?  of what? 

At any rate, I think what Gore did in Saudi Arabia is a much bigger story that the media is ignoring.

And why the intentional and continued misspelling of his name?  I'm no fan but just curious as to the joke I am missing

If W's farting under the sheets and covering Laura's head sends her to the hospital, then yes, it's newsworthy.  And then we know what really happened to those chemical weapons Saddam had.  He hid them the place he knew W couldn't find with both hands. 

-Chris 

Derek I think the Bush family would prefer if their supporters would not raise issues of :
a. being a drunk
b. Killing someone in a car wreck
c. leaving the scene
d. matters of infidelity
e. illegal drug use

you see they've had more than their share of these problems.

And where the hell is Matt Drudge, or that drug addled gas bag Limbaugh. They were all over the personal tragedy that was Vince Foster's suicide. Where are they now with their accusations and inuendo. Hiding out like the rats they truly are and have always been.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.