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2012-03-18 3:58 PM

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Whats your vote? Protien Shakes  or Choc Milk ?   Undecided



2012-03-18 3:59 PM
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I like both together
2012-03-18 4:03 PM
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Recoverite by Hammer Nutrition has been my go-to recovery drink for a while now, but I'm currently experimenting with chocolate milk to see if it's any better or just the same. More news as the experiment progresses.
2012-03-18 4:03 PM
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Protein shake.  I have a Naked Protein zone Mango after every workout.
2012-03-18 4:25 PM
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Low fat chocolate milk.  Been my go to for years.

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2012-03-18 4:30 PM
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I have protien shake. I would rather low fat chocolate milk but my kids drink it up so I use a shake, they do not care for that.

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2012-03-18 4:36 PM
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I mix my whey protein powder with chocolate milk (or regular milk if I don't have chocolate available) MMMM...tasty Laughing

2012-03-18 4:45 PM
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Protien shake for me.
2012-03-18 4:47 PM
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2012-03-18 5:11 PM
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I like both, but that's not saying one really needs to have either.
2012-03-18 5:13 PM
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Chocolate flavored protein shake.


2012-03-18 5:36 PM
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I do a lil of both just dont always like to buy into the hype of something so to speak..

 

2012-03-18 5:50 PM
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Chocolate milk - tastes good, cheap and easy to find.
2012-03-18 5:55 PM
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Chocolate milk.  Hands down.  Unless when you say protein shake you refer to one with carbs in it as well.  There's studies showing no difference between the two (a carb/protein/fat shake vs. chocolate milk) from a recovery standpoint.  I wish I remembered the specifics.
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2012-03-18 6:03 PM
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Both...I like chocolate milk after a long run...been using protein shakes just recently (mainly to help with making sure I get enough protein)...


2012-03-18 6:32 PM
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Vanilla protien shake w/scoop of glutamine w/milk and banana, yum.

I also have little kids and they would just drink the chocolate milk up, otherwise I could do that occasionally. I do like that that the protien shake provides extra protein though.

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2012-03-18 6:50 PM
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Depends what you're using it for. I don't particularly love milk either.
2012-03-18 6:57 PM
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blbenson - 2012-03-18 4:36 PM

I do a lil of both just dont always like to buy into the hype of something so to speak..

 



Well, both are hype. Sweet recovery shakes with sugar infused protein powder or chocolate milk are recovery fantasies hoisted by nutrition companies and or articles as an excuse to have something sweet and yummy after a workout. I used to do the whole protein shake thing and then discovered it was just crap calories I somehow justified eating. Not I down a liter of coconut water and eat some regular food and feel great without all the stuff I don't need.
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bryancd - 2012-03-18 7:57 PM
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I do a lil of both just dont always like to buy into the hype of something so to speak..

 

Not I down a liter of coconut water and eat some regular food and feel great without all the stuff I don't need.

I find it absolutely amazing that coconut water has found a home with the yogis and hoipolloi. I'll be on record as predicting that the coconut bubble will burst, and we'll be on to mango, pomegranite, strawberry or whatever water. If the coconut taste does it for you, booyah, but it's water. If you ascribe something more to coconut water than that, it's marketing and stuff you don't need, as poo-poohed in the post. Hello, goodbye, especially at $2/L, minimum. 

And for me, chocolate milk works wonders, with other real food. 

2012-03-18 7:17 PM
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Coconut Water Nutrition Facts
Serving size: 8 Fl. Oz. (237mL)
Ingredients:
100% natural coconut water
Amount/Serving % DV*
Total Fat 0g 0%
Calories 43 2%
Calories from fat 0 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 39mg 2%
Amount/Serving % DV*
Potassium 495mg 14%
Total Carb 11g 4%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars 10g
Protein 0g
Amount/Serving % DV*
Calcium 29mg 3%
Phosphorus 12mg 1%
Magnesium 18mg 5%*
Precent Daily Values are based on a 2000 cal. diet

Chocolat Milk nutrition facts:
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 cup (8 fl oz) (266.0 g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories 226Calories from Fat 78
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 8.6g13%
Saturated Fat 4.9g25%
Polyunsaturated Fat 0.5g
Monounsaturated Fat 2.2g
Cholesterol 24mg8%
Sodium 154mg6%
Total Carbohydrates 31.7g11%
Dietary Fiber 1.1g4%
Sugars 32.2g
Protein 8.6g
Vitamin A 5% • Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 25% • Iron 4%

Pick up the rest of the carbs and protein from a better quality source like real food. Have fun with 3x the sugar content and low quality fats. It's not a fad, it's just math. If you take nutrition and recovery and health and competitiveness seriously, coconut water wins hands down.Magnesium and potassium are KEY to endurance recovery and chocolate milk has nothing. Sure it's pricey, and so are a lot of "recovery" drinks made, but it's at least natural and legit. Chocolate milk is milk, which is fine, and added flavored sugar crap, which is not. I stand by my assertion that chocolate milk is an excuse, not a recovery product.

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2012-03-18 7:28 PM
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bryancd - 2012-03-18 6:17 PM Coconut Water Nutrition Facts Serving size: 8 Fl. Oz. (237mL) Ingredients: 100% natural coconut water Amount/Serving % DV* Total Fat 0g 0% Calories 43 2% Calories from fat 0 0% Cholesterol 0mg 0% Sodium 39mg 2% Amount/Serving % DV* Potassium 495mg 14% Total Carb 11g 4% Dietary Fiber 0g 0% Sugars 10g Protein 0g Amount/Serving % DV* Calcium 29mg 3% Phosphorus 12mg 1% Magnesium 18mg 5%* Precent Daily Values are based on a 2000 cal. diet Chocolat Milk nutrition facts: Nutrition Facts Serving Size 1 cup (8 fl oz) (266.0 g) Amount Per Serving Calories 226Calories from Fat 78 % Daily Value* Total Fat 8.6g13% Saturated Fat 4.9g25% Polyunsaturated Fat 0.5g Monounsaturated Fat 2.2g Cholesterol 24mg8% Sodium 154mg6% Total Carbohydrates 31.7g11% Dietary Fiber 1.1g4% Sugars 32.2g Protein 8.6g Vitamin A 5% • Vitamin C 0% Calcium 25% • Iron 4% Pick up the rest of the carbs and protein from a better quality source like real food. Have fun with 3x the sugar content and low quality fats. It's not a fad, it's just math. If you take nutrition and recovery and health and competitiveness seriously, coconut water wins hands down.Magnesium and potassium are KEY to endurance recovery and chocolate milk has nothing. Sure it's pricey, and so are a lot of "recovery" drinks made, but it's at least natural and legit. Chocolate milk is milk, which is fine, and added flavored sugar crap, which is not. I stand by my assertion that chocolate milk is an excuse, not a recovery product.

 

Bryan, what is it that is in the Coconut Milk that makes it a good recovery drink. Looking at the ingredients doesn't seem like there is a whole lot to it. I'm asking cause I really don't know what I should be looking for or not looking for when it comes to ingredients. I always thought I needed protein to help muscles rebuild and recover. 

2012-03-18 7:35 PM
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Protein is way over stressed as required for recovery. Much more important are electrolytes and carbohydrate and eve then, only after really big workouts. First is hydration and electrolyte depletion that needs to be addressed. The VAST majority to AG triathletes would be better served looking to natural, normal foods as post workout options then chocolate milk or fancy, sweet protein shakes. That's assuming they want to effectively manage their recovery and weight. If not, pound down whatever floats your boat but denial is not a river in Egypt. Call a spade a spade, so to speak. The entire concept of the "glycogen window" is being tossed out by better research and studies. Hydrate and look to replenish electrolytes first, eat a PB & J, and call it a recovery, you'll be better off. Avoid sport drinks as much as possible while not training as well, they are loaded with crap carbohydrate and sugar. Quality fats over bad fats, some but not a lot of protein. We eat so much more protein then our bodies can ever hope to absorb, we end up getting too many calories from protein and not enough from good fats and carbohydrate.

Look at the nutritional charts I posted, which one looks more balanced? Which once is more natural? Which one provides a greater variety of nutrition?

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bryancd - 2012-03-18 7:35 PM Protein is way over stressed as required for recovery. Much more important are electrolytes and carbohydrate and eve then, only after really big workouts. First is hydration and electrolyte depletion that needs to be addressed. The VAST majority to AG triathletes would be better served looking to natural, normal foods as post workout options then chocolate milk or fancy, sweet protein shakes. That's assuming they want to effectively manage their recovery and weight. If not, pound down whatever floats your boat but denial is not a river in Egypt. Call a spade a spade, so to speak. The entire concept of the "glycogen window" is being tossed out by better research and studies. Hydrate and look to replenish electrolytes first, eat a PB & J, and call it a recovery, you'll be better off. Avoid sport drinks as much as possible while not training as well, they are loaded with crap carbohydrate and sugar. Quality fats over bad fats, some but not a lot of protein. We eat so much more protein then our bodies can ever hope to absorb, we end up getting too many calories from protein and not enough from good fats and carbohydrate. Look at the nutritional charts I posted, which one looks more balanced? Which once is more natural? Which one provides a greater variety of nutrition?

 

why dont you show us some of these studie,s that counter the man other studies showing the benefit of addressing the anabolic window?  The idea of High GI carb plus quick digesting protein is  to get it to your muscles quicker, so you can recover in time for the next workout.  This allows more volume of work, which guarantees results....



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2012-03-18 9:51 PM
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Do your own research and I will let results speak for themselves.

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