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2012-08-01 2:24 PM

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Subject: Happy Non-Parents day

To all you Non-Parents out there: Happy Non-Parents Day!

Started in 1973 by the National Alliance for Optional Parenthood, Non-Parents Day (August 1st) was created to “encourage young people to make thoughtful and responsible decisions about parenting by trying to reduce the impact of societal pressures that equate success or growing up with parenthood.”

 

A line I heard on the radio last week:

"Youre so lucky you dont have kids..

Its not luck, I know how kids are made"



2012-08-01 2:35 PM
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Well, as a parent of two, I can definitely get behind this day. Not because I would rather not be a parent, but because I run across so so so many people who SHOULD NOT BE. (My wife is a child protection social worker, so that adds to my bias.

Of course, those folks usually bear little resemblance to my friends who are childless by choice. My sister is really into being an aunt, but will not likely ever become a mother. I think she would make a fine one, much better than so many thoughtlessly knocked-up. 

You know though, the opening sequence of Idiocracy isn't too far from where I fear we are headed. 

2012-08-01 2:37 PM
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Thank you.

This post actually boosted my spirits today.
2012-08-01 2:46 PM
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TheClaaaw - 2012-08-01 3:35 PM

You know though, the opening sequence of Idiocracy isn't too far from where I fear we are headed. 

That sequence was worth the price of admission.  

 

"Its got electrolytes, Its what plants want"

2012-08-01 8:13 PM
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TheClaaaw - 2012-08-01 2:35 PM

You know though, the opening sequence of Idiocracy isn't too far from where I fear we are headed. 

I have thought this for a long time.  I'm an elementary principal and I see people who shouldn't be parents every day! It breaks my heart for the kids.

2012-08-01 8:40 PM
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Sweet... I wish I had someone to give me a card and silly present for my day...


2012-08-01 9:06 PM
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I am ambivalent about this.     Doubts about the life unlived, and all that. Pensive, I am.

2012-08-02 12:05 AM
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As a father of 5, I can see this day being celebrated.  Having kids is not for everyone.....it's a huge sacrifice to do it right.....and even then, it can be a crap shoot.  I can't imagine my life without my children....but I can imagine another life without them.  

My oldest has chose to not have children...I respect her.  She says she is not sure she can give up what she has for a child, because she knows what it takes.  That makes me feel good.

I post alot about my family and how much it means to me............so here's to all of you who choose not to have children.....it's NOT a measure of success. :cheers:

2012-08-02 8:40 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-08-02 12:05 AM

As a father of 5, I can see this day being celebrated.  Having kids is not for everyone.....it's a huge sacrifice to do it right.....and even then, it can be a crap shoot.  I can't imagine my life without my children....but I can imagine another life without them.  

My oldest has chose to not have children...I respect her.  She says she is not sure she can give up what she has for a child, because she knows what it takes.  That makes me feel good.

I post alot about my family and how much it means to me............so here's to all of you who choose not to have children.....it's NOT a measure of success. :cheers:

cheers to you, sir, for such good words.  i only wish those parents out there pressuring and 'praying' for grandkids would be a rational minded as you are.

2012-08-02 8:43 AM
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antlimon166 - 2012-08-02 9:40 AM
Left Brain - 2012-08-02 12:05 AM

As a father of 5, I can see this day being celebrated.  Having kids is not for everyone.....it's a huge sacrifice to do it right.....and even then, it can be a crap shoot.  I can't imagine my life without my children....but I can imagine another life without them.  

My oldest has chose to not have children...I respect her.  She says she is not sure she can give up what she has for a child, because she knows what it takes.  That makes me feel good.

I post alot about my family and how much it means to me............so here's to all of you who choose not to have children.....it's NOT a measure of success. :cheers:

cheers to you, sir, for such good words.  i only wish those parents out there pressuring and 'praying' for grandkids would be a rational minded as you are.

as well as entire communities of women telling other women that they don't know what it means to accomplish anything until they have kids.  (i don't seem to ever hear that from men, even those that are fathers)

2012-08-02 8:47 AM
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mehaner - 2012-08-02 7:43 AM
antlimon166 - 2012-08-02 9:40 AM
Left Brain - 2012-08-02 12:05 AM

As a father of 5, I can see this day being celebrated.  Having kids is not for everyone.....it's a huge sacrifice to do it right.....and even then, it can be a crap shoot.  I can't imagine my life without my children....but I can imagine another life without them.  

My oldest has chose to not have children...I respect her.  She says she is not sure she can give up what she has for a child, because she knows what it takes.  That makes me feel good.

I post alot about my family and how much it means to me............so here's to all of you who choose not to have children.....it's NOT a measure of success. :cheers:

cheers to you, sir, for such good words.  i only wish those parents out there pressuring and 'praying' for grandkids would be a rational minded as you are.

as well as entire communities of women telling other women that they don't know what it means to accomplish anything until they have kids.  (i don't seem to ever hear that from men, even those that are fathers)

But it's the most amazing thing that can happen to you. 

I have a wee one at home, but I would have been okay not having a kid too. There are lots of things that I absolutely love about having a kid and lots of things I miss about not having a kid. Sleep being the biggest one right now.



2012-08-02 9:33 AM
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mehaner - 2012-08-02 9:43 AM
antlimon166 - 2012-08-02 9:40 AM
Left Brain - 2012-08-02 12:05 AM

As a father of 5, I can see this day being celebrated.  Having kids is not for everyone.....it's a huge sacrifice to do it right.....and even then, it can be a crap shoot.  I can't imagine my life without my children....but I can imagine another life without them.  

My oldest has chose to not have children...I respect her.  She says she is not sure she can give up what she has for a child, because she knows what it takes.  That makes me feel good.

I post alot about my family and how much it means to me............so here's to all of you who choose not to have children.....it's NOT a measure of success. :cheers:

cheers to you, sir, for such good words.  i only wish those parents out there pressuring and 'praying' for grandkids would be a rational minded as you are.

as well as entire communities of women telling other women that they don't know what it means to accomplish anything until they have kids.  (i don't seem to ever hear that from men, even those that are fathers)

We should hang out.   I hear it all the time.  

2012-08-02 11:13 AM
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Every time the subject of having kids comes up I can't help but think of Nicholas Cage's line in The Rock where he lists all the ridiculous things going on in the world and then says it would be an act of cruelty to bring a child into this messed up world.

Yes I know terribly cynical. But I do feel a bit bad for young kids these days. Heck I am only 27 and I feel bad for 21-22 year olds getting out of college, there aren't many places for them to go.

I don't see much improvement at home or abroad on many social or economic issues. I feel there is going to be a melt down in this country at some point and while I can hope that it will be after my time, I don't think it will be after my kid's time.

I will most likely get over this when the time comes to consider having a family, and I can imagine there are some awesome benefits to having a kid, and I would like to try my hand at parenting, but I don't see an easy road ahead for any of us and especially our kids.

2012-08-02 11:31 AM
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but the tax breaks are sure nice

Have one....and one on the way.

Never thought I wanted kids.....and then the little one came. Thought we were done at one, then the second one happened. We are completely done after this one......


2012-08-02 11:55 AM
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What a great day to celebrate.  I celebrated today by bringing brand new books to kids at a summer school for students struggling with reading and math.  Each kid got to pick out one new book as a reward for reading throughout the 3 week summer school program.  

How does this celebrate Non-parents day?  I had so much fun helping kids pick out a book and making them feel great for working hard over the summer.  Then I got to leave.  And go home to a house without kids.  For my life, that's absolutely perfect.

I feel the same way about kids as I do about religion.  I'm happy that other people have these things, but neither one is something I want in my home.  

2012-08-02 12:46 PM
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I am childless not particularly by choice but by the fact I didn't meet my prince charming until late in life.  I would have liked to be a mom  but don't particularly feel like a failure because I am not one.  I have a great career and a wonderful manin my life. can't complain


2012-08-02 1:25 PM
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As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

2012-08-02 1:28 PM
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Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

Not near as many as you think.

2012-08-02 1:32 PM
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Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.



If they turn out the opposite of you.....success!




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2012-08-02 1:33 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 11:32 AM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

If they turn out the opposite of you.....sucess!

That is soooo true is soooo many ways.

2012-08-02 1:35 PM
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Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:33 PM

bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 11:32 AM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

If they turn out the opposite of you.....sucess!

That is soooo true is soooo many ways.




and just to note....I didn't use the sarc font.




2012-08-02 1:36 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 2:35 PM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:33 PM
bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 11:32 AM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

If they turn out the opposite of you.....sucess!

That is soooo true is soooo many ways.

and just to note....I didn't use the sarc font.

You also misspelled "Success".  ;-P

Sorry, it's funny...

2012-08-02 1:38 PM
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GomesBolt - 2012-08-02 1:36 PM

bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 2:35 PM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:33 PM
bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 11:32 AM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

If they turn out the opposite of you.....sucess!

That is soooo true is soooo many ways.

and just to note....I didn't use the sarc font.

You also misspelled "Success".  ;-P

Sorry, it's funny...



I edited the initial post.....but Cord already quoted it before I did.


2012-08-02 1:41 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 2:38 PM
GomesBolt - 2012-08-02 1:36 PM
bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 2:35 PM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:33 PM
bradleyd3 - 2012-08-02 11:32 AM
Big Appa - 2012-08-02 1:25 PM

As a person who has two kids I do not think having kids makes your life a success. What I can say for me is now that I have them I can't say I am a success unless I guide them into becoming productive happy members of society. With them being young I am many years away from knowing how successful I was.

If they turn out the opposite of you.....sucess!

That is soooo true is soooo many ways.

and just to note....I didn't use the sarc font.

You also misspelled "Success".  ;-P

Sorry, it's funny...

I edited the initial post.....but Cord already quoted it before I did.

I'd remove my post to reward you for correcting that, but then it'd be a blank post.  So I will instead say.  My bad Brad.

 

2012-08-02 1:55 PM
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A friend of mine said it best,

"I want a lot of kids.  It seems stupid people always have many kids, and I don't want them to out number the smart ones."

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