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2012-10-26 10:20 AM

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Subject: Another Mac question: SSD vs Serial ATA?

I'm looking to get a MacBook Pro and am trying to figure out configuration. How much of an advantage is the Solid-State Drive vs the less expensive option? I make it a point to not treat my laptops rough, though there are the occasional "oops" occurrences. Is it worth while to spend the extra money for the SSD with less capacity (I generally don't use a lot of storage space. This Vaio has 180 GB and I'm using about 64) or would I likely be fine with the Serial ATA drive and the larger capacity for future use, or is there some other consideration that I'm not aware of?

I believe I understand the basics of the difference between the drives, though I could be wrong. When I've looked-up reviews on the interwebs they were too technical and didn't give me the layman's wording of "this one works better than that one because...". It was "this drive is made by this manufacturer and connects this way" which doesn't give me the information I need. Why should I have one over the other? What are the advantages and disadvantages (besides price)?



2012-10-26 11:11 AM
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2012-10-26 11:31 AM
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Given that you use a relatively small amount of space, I'd say you'd be best off with an SSD.

I just popped in to clear up some of the verbiage. SSD refers to the physical makeup of the drive. It's made of components that don't move, thus removing the proclivity to mechanical failure. Almost all SSDs connect via SATA (Serial ATA) which has been around for several years. Mechanical hard drives (HDDs for short) are the alternative to SSDs and that's what you're referring to when you are saying Serial ATA.

Benefits of SSD off the top of my head:

No mechanical failure
Faster reads/writes (for the most part, in most cases)
Lower battery consumption. Like, lots lower (great for laptop use)
2012-10-26 12:23 PM
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I have an SSD in my work laptop and that convinced me to buy one for home, too.  Performance increase was quite noticeable.

2012-10-26 1:57 PM
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SSDs increase performance quite a bit.  They do have finite # of read/writes so not the best choice for things like database servers that do lots of read/write operations.

All our CAD stations have SSDs.

2012-10-26 3:57 PM
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I've got both versions of Macbook Pro. The new one with flash is really nice, fast and light. Start up from full off is a matter of seconds. From standby, even faster. Both will serve you well. If you need to haul it around a lot, get the SSD. Play with them both at the store. The SSD has retina display which will either appeal to you or not. Look at em both to decide yourself.

 



2012-10-26 3:59 PM
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If you end up getting the regular hard drive, take some of the money saved and up the amount of system RAM.
2012-10-26 4:01 PM
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spudone - 2012-10-26 3:59 PM If you end up getting the regular hard drive, take some of the money saved and up the amount of system RAM.

 Forgot about memory! The SSD Macbook comes hardwired and you arent able to upgrade memory after purchase. Be sure to get as much as you think you'll need. The other version you can open the back  and upgrade it yourself for less.

2012-10-26 4:02 PM
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spudone - 2012-10-26 3:59 PM If you end up getting the regular hard drive, take some of the money saved and up the amount of system RAM.

 Forgot about memory! The SSD Macbook comes hardwired and you arent able to upgrade memory after purchase. Be sure to get as much as you think you'll need. The other version you can open the back  and upgrade it yourself for less.

I meant customize one at order time.  But yeah, what you said

2012-10-26 10:05 PM
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Bripod - 2012-10-26 10:31 AM ...I just popped in to clear up some of the verbiage. SSD refers to the physical makeup of the drive. It's made of components that don't move, thus removing the proclivity to mechanical failure. Almost all SSDs connect via SATA (Serial ATA) which has been around for several years. Mechanical hard drives (HDDs for short) are the alternative to SSDs and that's what you're referring to when you are saying Serial ATA... (great for laptop use)

Ok, that's the kind of information that I need to understand, thank you.

I was aware of the lack of moving parts and the inherent durability, but I didn't know if they're faster or less prone to other types of problems. So, they're faster in some ways, which is good. Any down-sides other than cost?

2012-10-26 10:48 PM
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Just cost pet gigabyte at this point. Certain SSD manufacturers have bad reputations for high failure rates (OCZ comes to mind) but i think Apple only uses Intel drives which are extremely reliable. The read/write limitation applies to all storages types, and you're honestly more likely to get a new computer before an SSD is going to crap out on you. The mean time between failure (MTBF) is like a million hours (seriously one million).

Edit: okay 1.2 million hours (137 years)
http://download.intel.com/pressroom/kits/ssd/pdf/Intel_SSD_510_Seri...

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2012-10-27 11:48 AM
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I just bought a new Sony Vaio Z with 256 gig SSD (2x128 raid 0). It is unbelievably fast. Power on to fully booted and ready to use is around 15 seconds.
2012-10-27 12:01 PM
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mdg2003 - 2012-10-26 5:01 PM

spudone - 2012-10-26 3:59 PM If you end up getting the regular hard drive, take some of the money saved and up the amount of system RAM.

 Forgot about memory! The SSD Macbook comes hardwired and you arent able to upgrade memory after purchase. Be sure to get as much as you think you'll need. The other version you can open the back  and upgrade it yourself for less.

I believe only the retina display MBP has the RAM soldered in this year.  However next year I think they will all be like this.

2012-10-28 10:02 AM
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Bripod - 2012-10-26 9:48 PM Just cost pet gigabyte at this point. Certain SSD manufacturers have bad reputations for high failure rates (OCZ comes to mind) but i think Apple only uses Intel drives which are extremely reliable. The read/write limitation applies to all storages types,

I saw a review that said Apple is using a Toshiba SSD, but it might be a rebranded SandForce. Since I know almost nothing about this subject, I did a quick search and saw them listed as "high-end", but that doesn't tell me more than "they're expensive compared to others". 

Since I don't use a lot of storage space, a 512 GB SSD is very likely more than enough to last a freaking long time before I eventually accumulate enough stuff to come close to filling it (if ever). Also, I expect to be leaving my MacBook at the house most of the time and using an iPad when traveling. My intention is to be able to travel light while letting the laptop last a long time. At least that's my plan right now; it's subject to change as my research progresses. I may decide to nix the iPad and stick with the laptop. Heck, with as little as I use my computer, I could potentially use an iPad as my primary and only device and do any word processing at work. I'm still trying to figure out what to do.

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 You consider the Macbook Air?
2012-10-28 9:32 PM
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mdg2003 - 2012-10-28 11:27 AM  You consider the Macbook Air?

I did, but the Pro has more options for storage, processing speed, I/O ports, etc. I had looked at the Air first, but I like the capabilities of the Pro more.



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