Question for gun owners

Search for "TITLE XI--FIREARMS" in  H.R. 3355 (103rd): Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, or Wilkipedia has a page summarizing the AWB.

They are fun to shoot. A single shot bolt action will do the same job as an AK with a 30 round magazine. As a stress reliever or sheer shooting pleasure, the AK wins every time IMO. Like driving a Prius or a BMW 335I up a windy coastal road. Both will get you there, but guess who will most likely enjoy the trip more? I do not own any assault weapons. 

Thanks Brian. I think Cedar Creek answered your question better than I could.

I think looking at the bill and all that it encompass the grants ect. just looks to me like a bill of perception than one that will create a safer environment. Create more law breaking citizens yes, reduce violence and crime, I don't see that happening.

Look at it this way.  What if someone told you that you couldn't poo in your OWN kitchen and you had to........or wanted to...... AND, you have been allowed to poo in your kitchen for 236 years (even though some dont like it but you do). Then people who THINK they know better what is best for you, make it so you cant and you just have to hold it or do it anyway.......how would you like that?

Just throwin that out there. I respect a persons own opinions.

I just want to point out this flaw in your analogy. Poop hasn't been invented for the first half of your time frame.

That analogy just plain outright stinks.    

An assault rife is a pejorative of the anti gun crowd.   A rifle, or any gun for that matter, is simply a tool.   How one chooses to use that tool is indicative of the individual.     Whether a gun is an automatic ( which is highly regulated), semi-automatic, or single shot, they all can be used for negative purposes. 

Unless I'm mistaken, and I have lingering effects of what's called chemo brain,  the second amendment says we still have the right to bear arms.   Until that is changed no one needs to justify owning any type of gun.  

/Libertarian rant....

Ok you are absolutely right about the time frame thing. Actually I was off by about 176 years. My point is.....because I can. LEGALLY. Criminals and physcos cannot LEGALLY. There are plenty enough of existing gun laws if they were prosecuted against these people properly and sentenced properly.

 Man this thing is going to get ugly, I'm out.

Going to go do something we can all agree on............run.

Well Brian, I don't have one, but if I had the money, I would. It's just low on the list.

The AWB was a ridiculous piece of legislation. As much as gun owners bemoaned the legislation, it did actually nothing from stopping anyone having what ever they wanted.

Everything pre-ban was still legal, so I could have as many +10 magazines as I wanted and there were no shortage of them.

And then the items restricted... ooohh, a muzzle brake... God knows how dangerous those are. And a bayonet holder.... ya, because after we shoot something stabbing them is just wrong. Adjustable stocks.... because of course fixed stocks render guns almost useless. Of course, studies are true... black rifles are used to shoot things 10,000:1 over pink rifles.

As long as I can send a 250 grain projectile down range at 3000 fps with pin point accuracy at will, banning certain configurations of rifles is complete nonsense.

If one were passed today... it would not make me run out and get one.

Same. Don't have, but want one.  However, when the rifle you want is $2800 (SCAR 17s), it sits VERY low on the priority list.

Why do I want it?  Because I can. Because it would be fun as heck to shoot. It would actually be very suitable for deer hunting (7.62mm/.308). Home defense doesn't factor in for me as a shotgun would be best for that. 

If I could afford it, I'd also love to own a Barrett M82A1... but, I'd have to take out a 2nd mortgage to afford ammunition.

I built my AR15 because it was a fun project that was interesting to me. And I came out exceptionally cheaper than buying a whole rifle.

Same with the AK I'm going to build (I've got 99% of the parts now). Again, just is an interesting/educational thing for me. Also a bit historical.

And they are fun to shoot if you enjoy shooting. 

On that note, would a Libertarian not agree that every citizen has a right to carry around a bazooka?  some rocket-propelled grenades??  perhaps some anti-aircraft missiles???  We have the right to bear arms...who determines what arms I can bear?  Seems to me the 2nd amendment would be just fine with the above-mentioned weaponry being perfectly legal.    

It seems a lot of folks who like to use the "right to bear arms" line aren't super-crazy about the "well-regulated militia" portion of the 2nd amendment either.  just sayin'.  

I don't but:

An AK is very enjoyable to fire

2- collecting historical firearms is a decent (expensive) hobby

Why else would I own a Brown Bess and a M91/30 Mosin Nagant used in WWII?

Do you know how much anti air craft missles cost? So since I can't buy a A1 Abram, I should not have a AR-15... makes perfect sense.

Seems a bunch of people that like to use the "well regulated militia" line, like to completely forget the "right to bear arms" part. Just sayin'.

No, it is not illegal to own full auto guns. You just have to pay for the license.

I have a lot of guns.  I also own what most people would call "assault weapons" but in reality they are not.  By definition an "assault rifle" must have selective fire.  This means, semi auto, and/or burst and/or full auto.  There are not many people (in terms of percentages) in the country who have those types of firearms.

Why do I own them?  Because I want to be prepared.  Do I think society is going to fall into chaos and I'll have to defend my home against random attacked by rioters?  Probably (hopefully) not.  But a grand or so plus accessories is good insurance against that ever happening.

Why do divers carry knives?  You don't need a knife to dive.  But in an emergency you sure are glad you have that knife.  Same logic. 

I also own historic guns such as WW2 M1s.  The engineer in me finds them fascinating.

I'm a hunter, so that's where I put my money for such tools.
You can't use a semi-auto firearm in Pennsylvania for hunting,
except for shotguns.

(BTW, just got back in from a squirrel hunt in Buck's County with my brother
and my two youngest boys.  Great fun. The 10yo is great with his .410 shotgun)

I wish you could use a semi-auto rifle in PA for hunting. I see nothing wrong with it.
The "assault rifle" that's being discussed is just a semi-auto rifle.

If you haven't shot in a while, consider coming to a 
CMP, Civilian Marksmanship Program, shoot.
There's one the first Saturday of every month at the Lower Providence Rod and Gun Club. 
It's open to the public. The club will loan you an M1 Garand , WWII era semi-auto rifle.
The course of fire is 60 rounds total standing, sitting, prone at 100yards.
You need to buy ammo from the club for the loaned rifles. The whole thing will cost you around $30.

That kind of tactical rifle craft is not my main thing, but I shoot CMP once in a while for fun.
Give it a try and you'll understand better why people are into ARs and AKs.