Alcohol is blamed for far more deaths than guns every year, so why...

I try to make this point to everyone that I've ever discussed the gun thing with.  Nobody wants to hear it.  Alcohol causes more deaths and is responsible for more incarcerations per year than almost anything out there.... so, we bump the legal age to 21.

Visit a prison or county lockup, or just call one, and see if you can get a ballpark figure on how many people are in there for alcohol related deaths that they don't even have any memory of causing.

At least with a gun, you're still the one in control.

Waiting for someone to open up a gun range that serves...

...oh wait, that's up north in Michigan.

Nevermind. 

Every summer I'd get a big kick out of a sign on a corner store I saw traveling to a buddies' camp..."Beer and Ammo."  Gotta love it.

Beer, bait, and ammo if the joint is high class.   Wait, I know several of these places locally.

That's a simple one.  Because people decide things based on emotion, not facts.  They only bring up facts when it's not the topic they support.

Think about things people fear/ban/etc and see which ones are based on math.  Just like texting and driving.  If you're going to do it for safety, then ban eating drive-thru food, yelling at the kids in the back, etc.  They are statistically just as likely to cause distracted driving. 

I have a few friends who would be thrilled if you could ban their kids from puking in moving cars

Just out of curiosity, are you saying texting and driving is statistically equally or less dangerous than eating drive-thru food? (presumably while driving)

Yes, it's just as distracting statistically.  just like changing channels on the radio.

It's really scary that anyone really thinks this.

Statistically, texting and driving is more dangerous than drink driving.

In real tests, drivers who were driving at the legal limit of alcohol performed much better than those who attempted to drive while texting.

It is nothing like eating food from your lap or changing the radio station.  It's really important that people understand this really quickly as people are getting seriously hurt and killed every day.

I'm not having a go, it just really worries me that otherwise intelligent, sensible and cognitive people believe this to be the case.

The level of distraction in terms of time, concentration, dexterity required greatly outweighs other common 'while driving' activity.

Well said.

Totally agree and very well said.

It isn't a childish argument when the stated goals are the same.... to save the children. So your child being mutilated and dismembered by a 4000lb object is more acceptable compared to a magazine capacity, or a rifle with certain cosmetic features?

I understand what you are saying as far as using a distraction instead of dealing with the topic. However, there is not a "epidemic of violence" from what capacity a magazine holds. There are not people dying by the thousands from pistol grips. If you are going to have an intellectually honest discussion about children dying, then lets look at the things actually killing them.

Alcohol cost society more in DUI, criminal activity, domestic violence, lost time, and illness than ALL illegal drugs COMBINED. So then why do we not place the same level of condemnation on a recreational activity we place on a constitutional right? Could it have something to do with the tens of millions of responsible drinkers see no reason to give up something just because a small group of people are irresponsible?

Just some of the same ineffective, but symbolicly significant measures would be nice.

Any crime committed under the influence gets an "agrivated" attached and carries a mandatory 10 year sentence.

DUI- ten year mandatory sentence.

Life without parol for a death committed under the influence.

Drinking establishments have strict 3 drink maximums they can serve each patron.

Make 6 packs 4 packs. Limit the amount of alcohol you can buy in a month.

Or, we could just outlaw drinking in public. We don't mind if you do it at home, but you can't do it in public because you "endanger" the public.

Lets register every drinker. In order to buy alcohol, you must have some training you pay for, and then you get a license to drink, which must be renewed every year... since it is such a deadly activity that endangers public safety.

Of course we all know criminals can do and tget anything they want black market, but why are allowing legal avenues for them to kill people?

It isn't that I don't understand murder with a gun compared to drunk driving or a hammer... but when you give the reason you want to restrict gun use as "public safety" or "saving the children" based solely on emotional arguments... then you invite such comparisons your self. If there are those that want to repeal the 2A, then just say so and work to get it done. But when you want to argue non existent reasons as to why you want to restrict the use of right you feel should not be a right in the first place... then you argument is already childish you get the corresponding replies.

The reason that this argument doesn't work is that one can stop texting and pay attention to the road, while stop being drunk and paying attention doesn't quite work.

Driving drunk isn't "not paying attention". Most are trying the best they can to just make it home with diminished abilities. (not an endorsment in any way) For me... texing requires just about ALL my attention. I can't and don't do it. It requires way too much of my attention while speeding down the road in a 4000lb missle. And yes... you can tell the drivers texting.... all over the road nearly wrecking into people, and you get next to them and they are texting.

And again, you can stop texting, but you cannot stop being drunk at the critical moment. Of course, many accidents happen because it seems that people actually cannot stop texting at said critical moment....

Ya, it's not that you CAN... it's that they DON'T. They CAN not text at all... but they DO.

But a drunk bus driver with 30 kids in his bus certainly could...

Facts aren't scary.  They just are.  So before believing the hype of the media saying that it's just texting, take a look here:  https://www.aaafoundation.org/distracted-driving/>
There is a .pdf of the results. 

Last sentence of the conclusion:

"Finally, electronic device use and other distracted driver behaviors were strongly associated with looking away from the roadway, although electronic device use was only weakly related to serious incidents."

Right, because "style" is so important.

In case you did not know... we have over 20,000 gun laws in this country... and just like Driving While Intoxicated.... murder is also illegal.