Do away with extra point kicks???

Cowherd was talking about this.  He suggested making everyone go for 2...

What if they had what in essence is a 3pt line?  Get 1 point if you kick from the 30, 2 from the 40, 3 from the 50, and so on...  Or some variation of that?

What drama would that be?  Down 10 and score a touchdown and still have a chance to win but you need to make a 4 pointer from 60 yards out!

It WOULD bring back some action lost on kickoffs.  It get's boring to see touchback after touchback.  Only Holiday from Denver and a couple other guys still take it out most of the time unless they are 10 yards deep in the endzone.

Well, it's two plus the ball...

The problem with making it four, is it worth more than driving the ball 80 yards and having to settle for 3 in the red zone?  It's kind of luck play, so shouldn't get awarded much, IMO.  Maybe 3, tops (plus the ball).

Nothing to me is more exciting than a block field goal play, so maybe if they could do something that gives the defense an advantage on the play, we'd see more blocks...

Same here. I never understood it. I would have to research where it came from in the first place. It really is worthless. The odds of not getting it are minuscule.

I really thought the 2 point thing was going to have a much bigger impact... but it really does not. Pretty worthless too. It's too risky to go for 2 for a win when a tie takes you to OT. And that is what most teams do. They only do it when they don't have much to loose.

Make all TDs 7 points. If anything make all "extra" points like a 2 point conversion. 1 point, one play, you make it or not. That would make things interesting, because points would be multiples of 3, but you have a chance to get one here and there. That would change the out come of games.

But right now, the extra point is completely worthless.

I'm curious, how many people got HURT and was out of games on PAT's.  Suppose 6 people where hurt enough to lose time or games for something that is automatic - seems like a bad trade off.  Twice as many injuries that PAT's missed?  (just speculating)

Well, that's pretty big.

I guess I never thought about it since it's part of the game.  If it stays, I don't care.  If they change it, I don't care either.

BUT, if you think about the odds/stats.  Seems like you get 11 huge/strong guys smashing into each other for no reason OTHER than to try and stopping something that happens all but 0.4% of the time.

I would even suggest, that with no defense attempting the stop at all - just the snapper, holder and kicker out there alone, that statistically, are in the same realm of missing just as many...  Miss due to carelessness in the snap or hold, or slipped and shanked it.

Just to be fair, is it 5 misses in all those attempts?  Does a blocked kick or botched hold or snap over the holder's head count as a miss in those stats?  Or is it an actual kick that flat out misses?

I think each team should pull a random fan out of the stands to attempt the PAT.  Or make the coach hustle out there and give it a boot.

I don't remember which coach it was that thought this up, but one of them suggested eliminating kickoffs altogether.  After you score you would keep possession of the ball, but it's 4th & 15 from your own 30 yard line.  His rationale was player safety, thinking that punts are safer than kickoffs.  

I love this idea. I don't know how many more returns you would get.  It eliminates touchbacks but adds in fair catches and punts out of bounds.  So maybe that's a wash.  But I'd much rather see a team trying to mount a comeback late in the game get a chance to convert a 4th and 15 than try the onside kick.  And throw in the occasional blocked punt, muffed snap, and fake attempt.  

I think I would rather watch the payer that scored the TD attempt the point after kick.

Hey didn't Ocho Cinco make a field goal lat year?

AND, to take another cue from rugby (where the scorer has to take his own kick), they could spot the ball where they cross the end zone.  All those TD's where they just get inside of the pylon?  Those PAT's would need to be kicked at the same yard line, but also at the sideline!  What a tough angle!

lol, that would be entertaining.    Might bruise some NFL ego's though.

On a side note, have any of you actually tried to kick an extra point?  On my High School football team we didn't have a kicker so we always went for two.  Our coach got frustrated and had every one of us on the team take three attempts at an extra point to see if he could get one person to kick it through.  Yeah, 50 kids and not a one of us could get it over the bar.  Plenty easy to kick it that far, but not so easy to kick it up and over everyone (and the goalpost) 

Yes, because we all know PAT's are automatic and never have an impact on an important game.

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Romo doesn't count though.

and 99.6% of all extra points made kinda does point to the automatic side of the scale

Oh, I know, I just couldn't resist

But honestly, I doubt we'll ever see a change. I just can't see the motivation to change. As someone else mentioned, there is probably a very important reason not to change--advertising money. Plus it's such a long-standing rule that it's really a tradition. I'd really rather not see it change. WWBCD? What Would Bob Costas Do?