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2009-11-09 8:42 PM
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Hills for breakfast tomorrow! Not sure of the total mileage as of now, but will be tracking it for the challenge.


2009-11-09 11:06 PM
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2450 swim tonight, may do some stuff later tonight. 
2009-11-10 6:09 AM
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Good morning team,

Just got back yesterday from a short 4 day trip. Didn't manage to train except for yesterday where I went for a 10km run.
Don't worry, I will meet my goal for the month even if i am a little behind at this time.
Have a great day
2009-11-10 6:48 AM
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sparco - 2009-11-09 9:32 AM
Global - 2009-11-09 9:27 AM Morning everyone.  As I mentioned before due to injury I will be taking this week off.  I plan to get about the same amount of time I would have spent running in on the trainer this week. 

My calf is feeling significantly better.  I was limping around on sat night but it feels great today.  I know better then to try and start running again this week though.  I've had this injury before and it will go on me again if I don't take a few weeks to ease back into things. 


Take it easy.  We totally understand if you need to adjust your goals due to injury.  A challenge is not worth aggravating your injury.

Then there are people like me, who are totally capable of meeting their goals, but skip long workouts anyways...

Saturday was way too beautiful (65 and sunny).  I skipped my long run (11 miles of hillwork) to go biking with my wife...

 

  Sparco -- You're such a Slacker!  

Although -- I confess, I'd have been tempted to do EXACTLY the same thing.

 



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2009-11-10 6:52 AM
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sparco - 2009-11-09 2:22 PM 4.5 mile KILLER hill workout (hill repeats, up to 15% grade)...HR got up to 170 bpm...it's been a while since I've suffered like this...

Better to suffer during the off-season than during the tri season, right?

Was that the hill I'm thinking off???  You know that one  -- over on 160th??   That is Killer...  But you love pain! 

 



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2009-11-10 6:58 AM
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Way to go team   -- Everyone is doing Awesome and we're in First Place!   Whoo HOO

Me -- Big run today..  Four of Four scheduled miles.   But what makes it a big run is that I managed to do my best pace over that distance in a long time.

I'm so excited that the weight is coming off (those who know me know how the slow movement of weight has driven me nuts) and the pace is getting faster.   Don't know if I'll ever be able to get back to my "PRIME" condition of 7:45-8:00 minute 10k's --- but I'm certainly going to try....

Overall, pleased with the progress.. Got to keep at it though.

 

GO TEAM 

 



2009-11-10 7:01 AM
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BigEasy6 - 2009-11-09 2:58 PM
sparco - 2009-11-09 2:22 PM 4.5 mile KILLER hill workout (hill repeats, up to 15% grade)...HR got up to 170 bpm...it's been a while since I've suffered like this...

Better to suffer during the off-season than during the tri season, right?



There are hills in Minnesota? Next you'll tell me that Favre is the Vikings QB! Just kidding...my hill work is tomorrow. No 15% grades though. Great job!

YUP, believe it or not -- LOTS of Hills in MN.  Used to live there.  Didn't think much of it, until I went back this past summer for Lifetime Fitness Tri.   Whew -- I'd forgotten how hilly that place is.    It was nuts!

I thought I had it hilly in my neighborhood in Ft Worth..... NOT!

 

 

2009-11-10 8:07 AM
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I was being sarcastic about hills in MN. I should have used a red font.

Did the hill workout with my wife this morning. Need to figure out the mileage and such. Didn't do as many miles as originally planned. Will make up for it later in the week.
2009-11-10 9:43 AM
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Argh! work is so busy right now! I ended up not doing anything yesterday but it's manageable. I get tomorrow off as a holiday so even if there is a little bit of work it will be from home and i can make up the training I missed!

Don't you hate it when work gets in the way of training??

Anywho, everyone seems to be doing well - Global, how are you feeling? I know there's been a set back for you! We're here if you need us!

Karen - that was very good of you not to get sucked into registering for IMFL - so very tempting I bet. The Cedar Point race looks awesome! We'll be in Muskoka for the 70.3 there that same weekend
2009-11-10 10:17 AM
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BigEasy6 - 2009-11-10 6:07 AM I was being sarcastic about hills in MN. I should have used a red font.

Did the hill workout with my wife this morning. Need to figure out the mileage and such. Didn't do as many miles as originally planned. Will make up for it later in the week.


Yeah, but I saw you were up at 430!  Think I would cut my mileage short too.

Speedwork for me today.
2009-11-10 10:49 AM
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My coach introduced me to the love of the physio ball lastnight.  My gut, back shoulders, meh everything above the hips is all warm and sore today.  I feel like I jumped out of a boat at 120 mph and just bounced for 150 yards in various contortions.  Man that thing is evil.  I had to reasearch on the web for like 40 minutes just to figure out how to do half the things.  

Tonight I will be doing my absolute favorite thing in the world, isolated leg training on the bike.  Although after lastnight I may have to reevaluate what is really my favorite, it could be a 20 way tie.  

So for today I have a 6 mile run planned followed by an evil bike workout on the drainer for about 20-30 miles, depending on how the drills nerf the pace.  Then a 14 mile run for tomorrow, glad I am tapering.   


2009-11-10 11:09 AM
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Baowolf - 2009-11-10 10:49 AM My coach introduced me to the love of the physio ball lastnight.  My gut, back shoulders, meh everything above the hips is all warm and sore today.  I feel like I jumped out of a boat at 120 mph and just bounced for 150 yards in various contortions.  Man that thing is evil.  I had to reasearch on the web for like 40 minutes just to figure out how to do half the things.  

Tonight I will be doing my absolute favorite thing in the world, isolated leg training on the bike.  Although after lastnight I may have to reevaluate what is really my favorite, it could be a 20 way tie.  

So for today I have a 6 mile run planned followed by an evil bike workout on the drainer for about 20-30 miles, depending on how the drills nerf the pace.  Then a 14 mile run for tomorrow, glad I am tapering.   



That is an evil taper routine! I thought tapering was supposed to be easier. Like the analogy...falling out of the boat...sick thing is that I want to know what that feels like!
2009-11-10 11:25 AM
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I have wiped out on an innertube behind a boat at about 90 mph or so.  It can be fun or, not so much fun.  We have ripped new lifejackets completely out with such fun.  Another fun thing is to go out on shoeskies (16 inch long 8 inch wide flat on the bottom), take the boat up to 55 mph crack the whip up to around 85 mph or so and then let go of the rope on glass calm water.  You glide for about 200 yards, well unless you catch an edge, then you bounce for about 60 yards.  I may actually have a cold coming on in addition to the new torture.  I may just take tomorrow off, as it is a holiday and my choice, sleep in untill noon and then go do my run see how it goes.   
2009-11-10 2:09 PM
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Ran 40 mins today  and felt Ok , my legs are still tender  from sunday .

Followed that with 7:30 mins in the pretty cold pool  (55F) .

It's interesting to see what running 10 miles  will do to average runners during the race .And surely this can  happen  to oneself too.    

Many will slow their pace and even though you were running back and forth with them through miles 3 to 9   they now drop off behind you.  The signs of fading are at first  subtle but there .   The form droops  , the walk at the water station is progressively longer , they don't run  the shortest  path through a series of curves  and choose instead to run longer distance on the softer dirt ,  their  foot pick up becomes more of shuffle with an audible scraping of the shoes  along the ground and 10 minutes later the inevitable happens . They suddenly  trip & fall down  on a prefectly smooth trail . And yes they get back up again unarmed  but probably  defeated and humbled.   Perhaps .  At that point you realized the distance has consumed them ......

Imagine  Raul Merino, the winner,  was not out there for the win, his goal was to do a moderate pace training run, and to go for a PR next month in Sacramento. But with less than five to go he sees the leaders are fading. He throttles back and blows by with four miles to go. How many opportunities does one get to win a quality marathon? The motorcycle cop with the leaders later observed that he had to significantly increase his speed to stay with the new leader. ..

2009-11-10 4:11 PM
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^^^Interesting observations^^^

Misread my schedule.  No speedwork, just an easy 5 mile run today.
2009-11-10 4:43 PM
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6 mile run at an easy pace done during lunch, no umphta today.  Bike drainer torture yet to come.  I still have a bit to finish off my bike goal for the year anyway.

I don't know about tripping, but there are definate mile markers where your body needs to addapt to a longer distance.  Mile 10 often sucks, 15 meh, 18 more, 20 definately, 23 completely.  Often it is just a bleading of your pace.  You have been running 8:30 for 10 miles or 15 or whatever and then at a certain point it is 8:40, 8:50, 9:10, 9:30, 9:50, 10:30.... ah yes the finish phew. 

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2009-11-10 7:02 PM
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Exercise bike...run (7k) & swimming lessons tonite. Bit tired now. Have tomorrow off work.Gonna go for a run in morning!!This learning to swim stuff is hard. Im making progress, albeit slowly. Whether I will be able to swin a sprint next year, I'm still not confident. Nevertheless, must persevere.Hope everyone had a good dayGGG
2009-11-10 9:05 PM
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Baowolf - 2009-11-10 4:43 PM 6 mile run at an easy pace done during lunch, no umphta today.  Bike drainer torture yet to come.  I still have a bit to finish off my bike goal for the year anyway.

I don't know about tripping, but there are definate mile markers where your body needs to addapt to a longer distance.  Mile 10 often sucks, 15 meh, 18 more, 20 definately, 23 completely.  Often it is just a bleading of your pace.  You have been running 8:30 for 10 miles or 15 or whatever and then at a certain point it is 8:40, 8:50, 9:10, 9:30, 9:50, 10:30.... ah yes the finish phew. 



My first 10 mile run was terrible. Even though I had ran multiple 8 and 9 mile runs. It's like a barrier to break through. I have a few 15 milers under my belt and haven't felt bad...we'll see what happens at 18 or 20.
2009-11-10 11:03 PM
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Swimming sucks for a while.  I learned to swim freestyle a little over a year ago.  If you stick with it you can improve in distance and comfort fairly quickly (a couple months), as far as getting faster well... I'll let you know when I find out 8).  I am sure it would help to have a coach, but to get better you need to swim 3-4 times a week.  Learning to swim causes a great deal of whole body fatigue that will sneak up on you.  Just take it slow and steady.  If you can get a coach or a master's class it is a good idea. 
2009-11-11 8:18 AM
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GoGoGo - 2009-11-10 8:02 PM Exercise bike...run (7k) & swimming lessons tonite. Bit tired now. Have tomorrow off work.Gonna go for a run in morning!!This learning to swim stuff is hard. Im making progress, albeit slowly. Whether I will be able to swin a sprint next year, I'm still not confident. Nevertheless, must persevere.Hope everyone had a good dayGGG


I am still not either and i've done a couple of tris!! LOL! The swim is a big deal ... especially if you've been a non-swimmer your whole life.  But you WILL improve and you WILL do it!! :D And there are often mini sprints!! Go for the shortest distance to get yourself over that fear. I've been a spectator at Ironman Canada and at Muskoka 70.3 and any confidence I had about being able to do it drained away when I saw how far out the buoys were ... when i arrived for my two mini-sprints or try a tris the buoys don't look so scary far away!!   
2009-11-11 8:20 AM
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Good morning team!!

Another lovely sunny day here ... and I get it off as a holiday.  Not too many do. The sad part is I may still be called to do work at home. boo.

Anyway, it's been so busy that I am behind on a couple of workouts.  I plan to get in a bike, run and swim today.  It's kind of cramming and I know i shouldn't but i'll take all them easy and not push. And really it's only one more workout than normal!


2009-11-11 8:58 AM
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Morning team,Just back from a 12k trail run. Sunny & cold here. Nice morning for a run.Jen & Brick, thanks for the encouragement about the swim!
2009-11-11 10:20 AM
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13.28 miles this morning. Officially the longest run I have ever done. Phew! I am tired and could eat a horse! As soon as I am done with that I'm in for a cold water bath. My new friend. Yea! What a great day!
2009-11-11 10:25 AM
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GoGoGo - 2009-11-10 7:02 PM Exercise bike...run (7k) & swimming lessons tonite. Bit tired now. Have tomorrow off work.Gonna go for a run in morning!!This learning to swim stuff is hard. Im making progress, albeit slowly. Whether I will be able to swin a sprint next year, I'm still not confident. Nevertheless, must persevere.Hope everyone had a good dayGGG


I can echo what everyone else ssaid... just keep at it! I took lessons too, boy they wore me out, for weeks and weeks just going 25 yards seemed hard, but then one day I wet 100 without stopping, and then the next week 200. And then a week later I did 1000 and totally surprised myself! I am still dog- slow but now I know I can do the distance. Faster can come later! Keep working at it!!
2009-11-11 10:27 AM
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juniperjen - 2009-11-11 8:20 AM Good morning team!!

Another lovely sunny day here ... and I get it off as a holiday.  Not too many do. The sad part is I may still be called to do work at home. boo.

Anyway, it's been so busy that I am behind on a couple of workouts.  I plan to get in a bike, run and swim today.  It's kind of cramming and I know i shouldn't but i'll take all them easy and not push. And really it's only one more workout than normal!


Glad you got a holiday! Hope you can get your workouts in! Cheers!
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