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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 25 miles on the bike this morning. Started out as active recovery and then a group passed by on Zwift. Ended up doing 45 minutes @ 80% FTP or 60' @ 75% FTP. 627 miles to go for my annual goal or approx. 21 miles per day. Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 1 00:38 Gabe 1:00:54 |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() FTP test today, it was going well until I developed a sharp pain in the nether regions - not the sort of pain to ride through but the Stop Now! type. Only made it through 32min of the 1 hr test. Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 1 00:38 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 1 00:45:00 Dave 1 0:32 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1 hr light spin on the drainer Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 1 00:38 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 1 01:45:00 Dave 1 0:32 |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Adding Tues (trainer 45 min, run 17 min, swim 45 min) and Wed (run 36 min, swim 50 min) Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 1 00:38 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 1 01:45:00 Dave 1 0:32 Dan 2 3:13 |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 45min swim then back in the saddle for 1hr. When I replaced my seat post I might not have adjusted it properly and may have had it too high causing me to slightly pull the muscle, I dropped the saddle slightly lower and the ride went okay tonight. Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 1 00:38 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 1 01:45:00 Dave 2 2:17 Dan 2 3:13 |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by trisuppo 627 miles to go for my annual goal or approx. 21 miles per day. Sounds like you have it in the bag Mitch, nice work - finish strong. Edited by DaveL 2015-12-02 9:35 PM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 3 mile run yesterday evening, too short to earn a point but it was a nice warm-up for my 9pm hockey game and also a good opportunity to test out some of my nighttime running gear. My neighborhood and town in general aren't especially conducive to running at night, as there aren't many sidewalks or streetlights, so I'm getting used to wearing a headlamp and as much reflective gear as I can find. I just bought a New Balance Beacon pullover which actually glows in the dark, although so far I haven't found it to be very helpful. Does anyone have any feedback on Hal Higdon training plans for marathons? I'm planning to use one of his Advanced Marathon plans to train for Boston and I'm curious if others have had success with them. The general structure is as follows: Mon - short run 3-5 mi. Tues - medium run 5-10 mi. Wed - short run 3-5 mi. Thurs - speed work - alternates through hill repeats, tempo run and track intervals Fri - off Sat - race pace run ranging from 5-10 mi. Sun - long slow run ranging from 10-20 mi. I think it's pretty workable with my schedule and other commitments but I'm a little concerned about having a longer race-pace run on Saturday followed by a very long run on Sunday. There are several instances when the Saturday race effort is 9 or 10 miles followed by 19 or 20 miles the next day, which to me sounds like a recipe for injury. Granted my target marathon race pace isn't that fast, but it seems like a lot of mileage crammed into two days. Training for a full marathon is completely new to me so I'm open to any feedback or suggestions!! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 41 minute tempo run tonight Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 2 01:19 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 1 01:45:00 Dave 2 2:17 Dan 2 3:13 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1:30 run on treadmill Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 2 01:19 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 2 03:15:00 Dave 2 2:17 Dan 2 3:13 |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1hr on the trainer Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 2 01:19 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 2 03:15:00 Dave L 3 3:17 Dan 2 3:13 |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by dgconner154 3 mile run yesterday evening, too short to earn a point but it was a nice warm-up for my 9pm hockey game and also a good opportunity to test out some of my nighttime running gear. My neighborhood and town in general aren't especially conducive to running at night, as there aren't many sidewalks or streetlights, so I'm getting used to wearing a headlamp and as much reflective gear as I can find. I just bought a New Balance Beacon pullover which actually glows in the dark, although so far I haven't found it to be very helpful. Does anyone have any feedback on Hal Higdon training plans for marathons? I'm planning to use one of his Advanced Marathon plans to train for Boston and I'm curious if others have had success with them. The general structure is as follows: Mon - short run 3-5 mi. Tues - medium run 5-10 mi. Wed - short run 3-5 mi. Thurs - speed work - alternates through hill repeats, tempo run and track intervals Fri - off Sat - race pace run ranging from 5-10 mi. Sun - long slow run ranging from 10-20 mi. I think it's pretty workable with my schedule and other commitments but I'm a little concerned about having a longer race-pace run on Saturday followed by a very long run on Sunday. There are several instances when the Saturday race effort is 9 or 10 miles followed by 19 or 20 miles the next day, which to me sounds like a recipe for injury. Granted my target marathon race pace isn't that fast, but it seems like a lot of mileage crammed into two days. Training for a full marathon is completely new to me so I'm open to any feedback or suggestions!! I used his beginner plan for my first (and only non-triathlon related) marathon in 2001. The plan itself was good, but had perhaps a little bit too much speedwork for a beginner plan. Do you already have the right running base to support that much mileage? Remember that race pace would be your target marathon race pace and therefore likely manageable. Check out McMillan's pace calculator for training paces if you don't already have another source. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Adding Thur (45 min bike, 17 min run, 30 min swim) and Fri (36 min run). Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 2 01:19 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 2 03:15:00 Dave L 3 3:17 Dan 4 5:21 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1:00:20 on the drainer Fight Club Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 2 01:19 Gabe 1:00:54 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 3 3:17 Dan 4 5:21 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have not prepared my RR yet for IMAZ, but made a short video to preserve the memory of the experience Ironman Arizona Journey Adding a 45 min drainer + 3000m swim (1st swim since IM Arizona on Nov 15) Mitch 1 01:17 Edited by trigabe 2015-12-04 4:24 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Adding Sat 45 min bike and 17 min run Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 2 01:19 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 3 3:17 Dan 5 6:23 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by dcon I used his beginner plan for my first (and only non-triathlon related) marathon in 2001. The plan itself was good, but had perhaps a little bit too much speedwork for a beginner plan. Do you already have the right running base to support that much mileage? Remember that race pace would be your target marathon race pace and therefore likely manageable. Check out McMillan's pace calculator for training paces if you don't already have another source. I guess I'm not really sure. I've been running anywhere between 15 and 30 miles per week over the past 8 or 9 weeks. The Higdon plan I'm using starts around 30 miles and works up from there. I'll end up with 30 miles this week and probably 32 next week before I officially start the plan, so I think my mileage base will be OK. My goal marathon pace is 7:15/mi so the speed work should be manageable. Even still, the thought of running 10 miles at 7:15 pace on a Saturday and a 20 mile death march on Sunday seems pretty daunting. Maybe that's why I've never run a full marathon! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 5 mile run @ race pace today. Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 3 01:54 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 3 3:17 Dan 5 6:23 |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Friday bike 70min Sat Run 46min, bike 90 min. Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 3 01:54 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 5 6:43 Dan 5 6:23 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1:02 run today Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 4 02:56 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 5 6:43 Dan 5 6:23 |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Adding Sun 1 hour swim and 36 min run Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 4 02:56 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 5 6:43 Dan 6 7:59 |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by dgconner154 Originally posted by dcon I used his beginner plan for my first (and only non-triathlon related) marathon in 2001. The plan itself was good, but had perhaps a little bit too much speedwork for a beginner plan. Do you already have the right running base to support that much mileage? Remember that race pace would be your target marathon race pace and therefore likely manageable. Check out McMillan's pace calculator for training paces if you don't already have another source. I guess I'm not really sure. I've been running anywhere between 15 and 30 miles per week over the past 8 or 9 weeks. The Higdon plan I'm using starts around 30 miles and works up from there. I'll end up with 30 miles this week and probably 32 next week before I officially start the plan, so I think my mileage base will be OK. My goal marathon pace is 7:15/mi so the speed work should be manageable. Even still, the thought of running 10 miles at 7:15 pace on a Saturday and a 20 mile death march on Sunday seems pretty daunting. Maybe that's why I've never run a full marathon! Sounds like you are probably okay with the mileage. The 20 miles is not for a while yet, right? Sounds like you really dislike running slow. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The weather was nice enough that I drug my mountain bike up from the basement for my ride today. 2:36 ride. Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 4 02:56 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 3 04:15:20 Dave L 6 9:19 Dan 6 7:59 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 1:30 on the drainer ISLAGIATT Mitch 1 01:17 Dave C. 4 02:56 Gabe 3 3:59:21 Jim 4 05:45:20 Dave L 6 9:19 Dan 6 7:59 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I wouldn't necessarily say dislike, but I have a hard time determining exactly what my slow pace should be. Higdon says anywhere from 30-90 seconds slower than goal marathon pace. When I plug my 5k time into Jack Daniels it gives me an easy pace of 7:42-8:10, but when I use my half marathon pace it jumps to 8:10-8:42. I know the half marathon data is a better predictor for marathon performance, but when I start getting up over 8:15 it feels like my run mechanics change pretty dramatically and I actually feel like it's harder on my body than running a little faster, so I've been sticking around 7:45 for my easy pace. According to all the calculators that's probably a little on the fast side for my easy runs, but it feels comfortable and I can hold it for long runs (although I'll probably slow down when they start getting over 12-13 miles). I don't train with a HR monitor so I don't know if that pace puts me in the correct zone for endurance. I should probably get one. |
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