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 2011-02-14 7:52 PM in reply to: #3354944 |
Expert  945    Auburn AL |  Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closedfattyfatfat - 2011-02-14 4:18 PM i also have the intermediate version of finks plan. its a lot more functional in that it sums the days, weeks, months etc.. workouts on a separate sheet in the xls and includes graphs. pm or email if you want it. a word of advice though, don't say you have it on one of those Fink threads in the IM forum. unless you want about 50 emails and countless pm's asking for it! I actually have the book and am using it strait out of the book. I like the format. |
| 2011-02-14 7:53 PM in reply to: #3354599 |
Extreme Veteran 368 Lamar | Subject: RE: Science of Triathlon and todays workout SSMinnow - 2011-02-14 12:54 PM peterday - 2011-02-14 11:54 AM I picked up a copy of Science of Triathlon yesterday and i got quite alot out of it. It has several presenters like Joe Friel talking about sports psychology, form in all three disciplines, and nutrition. I would suggest it for beginners such as myself but maybe not for most of you. Many of you seem quite experienced and have probably heard all or most of this from your various coaches over the years. But considering i have yet to race any distance of triathlon and only one 5k race thus far, this was a world of knowledge. Using some of the running tips i tried to incorperate them into my run today. This bring me to todays workout. Today i was supposed to do a 35 minute run so i used the small track in the gym (it's still a bit too cold up here to go outside without my lungs freezing up on me with my asthma). I always thought that i was supposed to be a poor runner. I am 6'5", 280pounds and losing the weight slowly. I just accepted that i would run like a juggernaught lumbering down the street. I was suprised that i could change the way i ran, it has definitely made my day. Before i would heel strike, now its more on the ball of my foot, Before i had a long stride with a lot of time rolling off my foot, now i lift my feet. Before i didn't know about cadence for running, now i count my right foot (20 times per 15 sec, i couldn't get it any faster). In the video Joe commented on Kenyan marathon runners with a cadence of 96 plus or minus 2 per minute or 24 every 15 sec. Before i would run with a completly upright posture, now my back is still streight but leaning forward stightly. My form of course still isn't perfect but i noticed a certain flow that was never there before as well as increased speed. I wasn't running continuously either. I would run 15 sec and count for cadence and then walk for a minute. I did it 20 times and i felt quite tired but good. Also i think i was coming down to hard on the ball of my foot as i was getting a pain mid foot around my cuniform and navicular bones. Anyway, i just wanted to share that with all of you, maybe the video can help some of you. Hey, a voice from the past....nice of you to pop in....did you mean to post a video? There are a few of us that have worked on our strikes this year. It took me months to get it and it wasn't without many setbacks including a hamstring injury. I am now a midfoot (not forefoot) striker with a cadence of around 198 (both feet, 60 seconds). The key for me was the lean....it really should be done from the hips. I did not understand that for the longest time. To get it, my PT had me forward lean and open up my hips and run in place so I could get the correct posture and then take off....I do this everytime I start to run. One other thing, you should feel your whole foot coming down and landing (not just the ball of the foot) and it is quick and smooth when you've got it right. I do find for me the less heel build up I have the easier it is to do correctly. I don't have a fancy minimalist shoe. I run in Brooks Launch and they work for me. My two cents anyway.... Glad you posted this I feel like I am on the right step with a long way to go. I just finished listening to an audio book "Born To Run" by Christopher McDougall I really enjoyed it it made realize on hoe much technology we rely on whether it' shoe's, HRM, PT. When I trained and rode horses and now train dogs I started getting caught up in all of that. I started the realize that the less junk I had the more feel the animals thoughts and could anticipate their reaction. I am finding out that it is the same for my body starting to listen to the aches and pains and boy do I have a long way to go. I am now trying to do a more of mid-foot landing. I realized that on my long runs I am starting to that more naturally not so much on short still working on that and after yesterdays long my legs weren't beat up like they were a week ago. Today is my rest day and felt I could run again today. I guess less is more |
| 2011-02-14 8:01 PM in reply to: #3353999 |
Extreme Veteran 368 Lamar | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed fattyfatfat - 2011-02-14 9:12 AM fowlmood - 2011-02-14 10:59 AM gotta run - 2011-02-14 6:57 AM fowlmood - 2011-02-13 8:33 PM Feeling sick after long workouts. I have noticed when I have finished my long workouts I try to drink water, Gatoraide and even try to eat something not very fast then all of a sudden I feel like I am going to puke. I sit still and let it pass. any idea's You could try a different recovery drink. My stomach won't tolerate Gatorade during or after workouts. Also, consider your intensity level during the long workouts. Stomach discomfort could be a sign that you need to slow down a bit. Stomach doesn't bother me when I run. I think what is happening is I am depleting my energy on these long runs so technically I am finishing the run on fumes. I got the ride figured out so now I need to figure out the run to maintain energy. reviewing your logs, i don't think its prudent to isolate this to the run. this weekend alone was a pretty big training weekend leading up to your longest run ever. good job btw. as julia suggested, it might just be throttling back a bit. especially when i see all of your long run at a sub 8 pace then yesterday you started at 8 but fell off a bit. not being critical, your training looks great. maybe just dial it in a bit. I want people to be critical I wouldn't learn anything if it were sugar coated. I know this weekend was brutal it was the longest week of my training plan and will start to taper. I am going to try to get some gels before the next long run to see how my stomach can handle them. Biking I figured out with Hammer Sustained Energy along with some Hammer Heed and it doesn't upset my stomach. As for pace I try to slow down but I feel like I am walking barely getting my feet off the ground so I just let my body tell me what it wants. I do try to pace for the distance |
| 2011-02-14 8:13 PM in reply to: #3355217 |
Master 2621 Almaden Valley, San Jose, California | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed fowlmood - 2011-02-14 6:01 PM fattyfatfat - 2011-02-14 9:12 AM fowlmood - 2011-02-14 10:59 AM gotta run - 2011-02-14 6:57 AM fowlmood - 2011-02-13 8:33 PM Feeling sick after long workouts. I have noticed when I have finished my long workouts I try to drink water, Gatoraide and even try to eat something not very fast then all of a sudden I feel like I am going to puke. I sit still and let it pass. any idea's You could try a different recovery drink. My stomach won't tolerate Gatorade during or after workouts. Also, consider your intensity level during the long workouts. Stomach discomfort could be a sign that you need to slow down a bit. Stomach doesn't bother me when I run. I think what is happening is I am depleting my energy on these long runs so technically I am finishing the run on fumes. I got the ride figured out so now I need to figure out the run to maintain energy. reviewing your logs, i don't think its prudent to isolate this to the run. this weekend alone was a pretty big training weekend leading up to your longest run ever. good job btw. as julia suggested, it might just be throttling back a bit. especially when i see all of your long run at a sub 8 pace then yesterday you started at 8 but fell off a bit. not being critical, your training looks great. maybe just dial it in a bit. I want people to be critical I wouldn't learn anything if it were sugar coated. I know this weekend was brutal it was the longest week of my training plan and will start to taper. I am going to try to get some gels before the next long run to see how my stomach can handle them. Biking I figured out with Hammer Sustained Energy along with some Hammer Heed and it doesn't upset my stomach. As for pace I try to slow down but I feel like I am walking barely getting my feet off the ground so I just let my body tell me what it wants. I do try to pace for the distance That's what I live on for the bike.....and I mix it thick to cover all the caloric needs. About 1600 calories at an IM. |
| 2011-02-14 8:19 PM in reply to: #3354614 |
Extreme Veteran 368 Lamar | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed mike6232 - 2011-02-14 1:03 PM fowlmood - 2011-02-14 9:59 AM gotta run - 2011-02-14 6:57 AM fowlmood - 2011-02-13 8:33 PM Feeling sick after long workouts. I have noticed when I have finished my long workouts I try to drink water, Gatoraide and even try to eat something not very fast then all of a sudden I feel like I am going to puke. I sit still and let it pass. any idea's You could try a different recovery drink. My stomach won't tolerate Gatorade during or after workouts. Also, consider your intensity level during the long workouts. Stomach discomfort could be a sign that you need to slow down a bit. Stomach doesn't bother me when I run. I think what is happening is I am depleting my energy on these long runs so technically I am finishing the run on fumes. I got the ride figured out so now I need to figure out the run to maintain energy. OMG I just looked at your log for Saturday... And you are saying you had a bit of a rough time after your run on sunday. You just worked out more in two days then I have ever done in one week. You are a ROCKSTAR. There is a Saturday workout I have to aim to complete by the end of summer... I am going to copy yours and aim for that as an end of year goal.. WOW. ----- Chris aka SPANKY I puke after almost every run. I think it is because of acid reflux. Do you eat foods that are high in acid? You may want to try some meds for that. I used to have acid reflux really bad the first few times put me in the hospital thinking it was a heart attack both of those times they reacted different from what I was used to and was on prevacid some of those bouts had me exhausted for about 3days I don't miss those. That was in 2008. Since I start exercising in 2008 I have not had one bout of acid reflux and no medicine. |
| 2011-02-14 9:34 PM in reply to: #3354637 |
| Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed velcromom - 2011-02-14 3:13 PM Wow! Leave town for a few days..... Nice new bikes, great workouts, wonderful equipment advice....this MG is amazing.
I wiped out (actually, just kinda fell over when one of the other girls skied over the back of my ski - and I'm working on a better story) on my first day of the girls' trip, and now am sporting a snazzy brace on my right knee. Looks like I sprained the collateral (?) ligaments on both sides of my knee, and pulled the IT band, and flared up the ankle a bit. Pity partied, ate, drank and shopped for the rest of my trip. ah, well. Big Sur is looking less and less like an important race on my calendar.
I'm so bummed for you, Linda! I hope you heal up fast so you can get back out there! |
| 2011-02-14 10:38 PM in reply to: #3354875 |
Extreme Veteran 368 Lamar | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed CyborgQueen - 2011-02-14 2:52 PM fowlmood - 2011-02-13 3:59 PM The weekend workouts are done. Temp 68, Hum 24%, Wind 5mph NNE " However I am glad my legs were not that sore and could probably handle more it was the bottom of my feet that hurt mainly the balls."
Okay, I HAD to laugh...when I saw this post, the ONLY thing I saw was the bold. I was like, "WHOA! talk about TMI!!". Then I realized that I MUST read the entire post before making a judgement....but thanks for the laugh. :-P it's nice to know I am not the only person with their mind in the gutter. |
| 2011-02-14 10:59 PM in reply to: #3355203 |
Master 1841 Sendai, Japan | Subject: RE: Science of Triathlon and todays workout fowlmood - 2011-02-14 10:53 PM SSMinnow - 2011-02-14 12:54 PM peterday - 2011-02-14 11:54 AM I picked up a copy of Science of Triathlon yesterday and i got quite alot out of it. It has several presenters like Joe Friel talking about sports psychology, form in all three disciplines, and nutrition. I would suggest it for beginners such as myself but maybe not for most of you. Many of you seem quite experienced and have probably heard all or most of this from your various coaches over the years. But considering i have yet to race any distance of triathlon and only one 5k race thus far, this was a world of knowledge. Using some of the running tips i tried to incorperate them into my run today. This bring me to todays workout. Today i was supposed to do a 35 minute run so i used the small track in the gym (it's still a bit too cold up here to go outside without my lungs freezing up on me with my asthma). I always thought that i was supposed to be a poor runner. I am 6'5", 280pounds and losing the weight slowly. I just accepted that i would run like a juggernaught lumbering down the street. I was suprised that i could change the way i ran, it has definitely made my day. Before i would heel strike, now its more on the ball of my foot, Before i had a long stride with a lot of time rolling off my foot, now i lift my feet. Before i didn't know about cadence for running, now i count my right foot (20 times per 15 sec, i couldn't get it any faster). In the video Joe commented on Kenyan marathon runners with a cadence of 96 plus or minus 2 per minute or 24 every 15 sec. Before i would run with a completly upright posture, now my back is still streight but leaning forward stightly. My form of course still isn't perfect but i noticed a certain flow that was never there before as well as increased speed. I wasn't running continuously either. I would run 15 sec and count for cadence and then walk for a minute. I did it 20 times and i felt quite tired but good. Also i think i was coming down to hard on the ball of my foot as i was getting a pain mid foot around my cuniform and navicular bones. Anyway, i just wanted to share that with all of you, maybe the video can help some of you. Hey, a voice from the past....nice of you to pop in....did you mean to post a video? There are a few of us that have worked on our strikes this year. It took me months to get it and it wasn't without many setbacks including a hamstring injury. I am now a midfoot (not forefoot) striker with a cadence of around 198 (both feet, 60 seconds). The key for me was the lean....it really should be done from the hips. I did not understand that for the longest time. To get it, my PT had me forward lean and open up my hips and run in place so I could get the correct posture and then take off....I do this everytime I start to run. One other thing, you should feel your whole foot coming down and landing (not just the ball of the foot) and it is quick and smooth when you've got it right. I do find for me the less heel build up I have the easier it is to do correctly. I don't have a fancy minimalist shoe. I run in Brooks Launch and they work for me. My two cents anyway.... Glad you posted this I feel like I am on the right step with a long way to go. I just finished listening to an audio book "Born To Run" by Christopher McDougall I really enjoyed it it made realize on hoe much technology we rely on whether it' shoe's, HRM, PT. When I trained and rode horses and now train dogs I started getting caught up in all of that. I started the realize that the less junk I had the more feel the animals thoughts and could anticipate their reaction. I am finding out that it is the same for my body starting to listen to the aches and pains and boy do I have a long way to go. I am now trying to do a more of mid-foot landing. I realized that on my long runs I am starting to that more naturally not so much on short still working on that and after yesterdays long my legs weren't beat up like they were a week ago. Today is my rest day and felt I could run again today. I guess less is more I agree with listening to your body, but be careful about changing up your stride. You will end up using different muscles and you may end up with an overuse injury. Of course it is possible that your body will adapt, but making changes while you're also cranking out the long workouts is asking for trouble. It took me a good 6 months at a slow pace and lower mileage to transition to more of a midfoot strike (I still heel strike a little according to the bottoms of my shoes). There have been plenty of threads with people complaining about injuries after trying to modify their stride. I had my share of problems too. If you're interested in a scientific view, check out the articles on Science of Sport: http://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/01/running-technique.html |
| 2011-02-15 7:30 AM in reply to: #3256813 |
Expert 670 metro west, MA | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed Linda- I am so sorry to hear about your knee! Take care of your self. Fatty- As one of the 50+ people who PM'd you for the Excel version of Fink's plan, I want to thank you again. Erica- Great job on your TT! I had a great night skiing last night. Two wins for me, fastest female again, and luckily our team pulled it together enough to qualify for Championship night. Phew! |
| 2011-02-15 7:51 AM in reply to: #3256813 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed Dan: good advice especially with the additional piece about changing things when you are ramping up significantly for this years races. I also changed my running last year to more of a nid foot strike and it took most of the season to get it right. Good thing I didn't have any major races planned that year. Christina: Congrats on an awesome job skiing. Linda: sorry to hear about the knee. You know that as you get older you start to get more clumsy Edited by Redknight 2011-02-15 7:59 AM |
but I do like the idea of blaming it on someone else. I probably would have gone with something like... I was in the middle of a downhill race and my splt time had me in 1st place. As I came over a 20 ft jump I saw some cougar littens (not Sugar's) and had to bail out to avoid them. Much more dramatic than I fell down.
| 2011-02-15 8:13 AM in reply to: #3256813 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. |
| 2011-02-15 8:21 AM in reply to: #3355644 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) |
| 2011-02-15 8:24 AM in reply to: #3355584 |
Expert 1037 Portland, OR | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed mighty mom - 2011-02-15 7:30 AM Linda- I am so sorry to hear about your knee! Take care of your self. Fatty- As one of the 50+ people who PM'd you for the Excel version of Fink's plan, I want to thank you again. Erica- Great job on your TT! I had a great night skiing last night. Two wins for me, fastest female again, and luckily our team pulled it together enough to qualify for Championship night. Phew! Thanks Christina! Nice job, yourself! That skiing is awesome! I've never been very good at it, but Ryan used to do downhill in high school and college. I'm always impressed by people who can do that! |
| 2011-02-15 8:31 AM in reply to: #3355662 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed dalessit - 2011-02-15 6:21 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) I hope so. I did the Vegas half in them too, and my feet felt better than ever. I feel like I have read that about longer distances but am not sure what the issue is either...but I guess there's not a whole lot I can do. Boston is only 9 weeks away! Yikes!!!! I did a RR for Sunday but can't link it with this computer.  |
| 2011-02-15 8:52 AM in reply to: #3355680 |
Expert 1797 CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed kt65 - 2011-02-15 8:31 AM dalessit - 2011-02-15 6:21 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) I hope so. I did the Vegas half in them too, and my feet felt better than ever. I feel like I have read that about longer distances but am not sure what the issue is either...but I guess there's not a whole lot I can do. Boston is only 9 weeks away! Yikes!!!! I did a RR for Sunday but can't link it with this computer. I agree that longer distances don't seem to be a problem in lightweight shoes once you get used to them. I haven't used anything but my Zoots since I got them last July to run in including the Disney's races. I've found that I've gotten less/smaller callouses and other foot rubbing during my races using them with or without socks. And I've only used socks when it has been super cold. Any good sources for figuring out what your foot strike is? My coach had me increasing my cadence and it's around 90-92 now per foot but I think I'm still a heel striker. I do think that shortening my stride has helped me go faster and run stronger. Eevn though I think about leaning, I'm sure that I'm still pretty upright. I need to get my core stronger to support more lean. My back definitely got sore during my 26k b/c I was really trying hard to let gravity help me run and lean into the windy parts. But that requires having a strong middle to support the upper body. |
| 2011-02-15 8:58 AM in reply to: #3355662 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed dalessit - 2011-02-15 9:21 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) maybe you already did. and i'd wager a beer there's more of a "bad rap" from the newer runner gunning for a first 5 or 10 k than the longer stuff because of exactly that. |
| 2011-02-15 9:05 AM in reply to: #3355748 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed fattyfatfat - 2011-02-15 9:58 AM dalessit - 2011-02-15 9:21 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) maybe you already did. and i'd wager a beer there's more of a "bad rap" from the newer runner gunning for a first 5 or 10 k than the longer stuff because of exactly that. LOL, yeah our coach had me walk around the house in them for awhile before even attempting a run. Then we moved up to doing my runs in my old NB's then at the end putting on my new A4's for short jogs. |
| 2011-02-15 9:06 AM in reply to: #3355584 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed mighty mom - 2011-02-15 8:30 AM Linda- I am so sorry to hear about your knee! Take care of your self. Fatty- As one of the 50+ people who PM'd you for the Excel version of Fink's plan, I want to thank you again. Erica- Great job on your TT! I had a great night skiing last night. Two wins for me, fastest female again, and luckily our team pulled it together enough to qualify for Championship night. Phew! ha! you're very welcome. awesome job with the two wins!!! congrats. |
| 2011-02-15 9:17 AM in reply to: #3355680 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed kt65 - 2011-02-15 8:31 AM dalessit - 2011-02-15 6:21 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) I hope so. I did the Vegas half in them too, and my feet felt better than ever. I feel like I have read that about longer distances but am not sure what the issue is either...but I guess there's not a whole lot I can do. Boston is only 9 weeks away! Yikes!!!! I did a RR for Sunday but can't link it with this computer. I would venture that many people's form breaks down the longer they run. The more minimalist shoe (I count Kinvara in that group) provides less support and less room for error. I would also say that Kim is a feather compared to most (and that's not a cut). The heavier you are, the more careful you need to be IMO. |
| 2011-02-15 9:29 AM in reply to: #3355727 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed sdalessio - 2011-02-15 8:52 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 8:31 AM dalessit - 2011-02-15 6:21 AM kt65 - 2011-02-15 9:13 AM I agree 100 percent with Dan and Rob. Be careful doing this while in the middle of heavy training. You should be fine Kim. I think once you get used to them you can use them for whatever. I did Disney Half and Marathon in my A4's without any problems. Not sure why exactly lighter shoes get a bad rap for longer distance racing. (Really I don't know, if they should, someone explain why) I hope so. I did the Vegas half in them too, and my feet felt better than ever. I feel like I have read that about longer distances but am not sure what the issue is either...but I guess there's not a whole lot I can do. Boston is only 9 weeks away! Yikes!!!! I did a RR for Sunday but can't link it with this computer. I agree that longer distances don't seem to be a problem in lightweight shoes once you get used to them. I haven't used anything but my Zoots since I got them last July to run in including the Disney's races. I've found that I've gotten less/smaller callouses and other foot rubbing during my races using them with or without socks. And I've only used socks when it has been super cold. Any good sources for figuring out what your foot strike is? My coach had me increasing my cadence and it's around 90-92 now per foot but I think I'm still a heel striker. I do think that shortening my stride has helped me go faster and run stronger. Eevn though I think about leaning, I'm sure that I'm still pretty upright. I need to get my core stronger to support more lean. My back definitely got sore during my 26k b/c I was really trying hard to let gravity help me run and lean into the windy parts. But that requires having a strong middle to support the upper body. Your coach should be able to look at you and tell you your footstrike. Your shoes should also be a good indication. If neither of those work, go to Fleet Feet and have a strike analysis done. There are a ton of books out there, Newton has one, POSE, Chi all based on the same principle. While I do not recommend the Newtons they definitely teach midfoot strike. For me, the lean came last and was the hardest to grasp. It's more than a lean it is changing your hips as well. You potentially have a sore back because you are too rigid from the hips down. This is exactly where I was a few weeks ago. Run in place starting on your toes, then your heels and then mid a foot times....add the lean while letting your pelvis relax a little and take off....I could feel the difference right away. It took me a while to get it to hold for more than a few mins at a time, but now it is completely natural. ps. I do the run in place as part of my warm up exercises before any run. |
| 2011-02-15 9:52 AM in reply to: #3355848 |
Expert 1797 CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed SSMinnow - 2011-02-15 9:29 AM Your coach should be able to look at you and tell you your footstrike. Your shoes should also be a good indication. If neither of those work, go to Fleet Feet and have a strike analysis done. There are a ton of books out there, Newton has one, POSE, Chi all based on the same principle. While I do not recommend the Newtons they definitely teach midfoot strike. For me, the lean came last and was the hardest to grasp. It's more than a lean it is changing your hips as well. You potentially have a sore back because you are too rigid from the hips down. This is exactly where I was a few weeks ago. Run in place starting on your toes, then your heels and then mid a foot times....add the lean while letting your pelvis relax a little and take off....I could feel the difference right away. It took me a while to get it to hold for more than a few mins at a time, but now it is completely natural. ps. I do the run in place as part of my warm up exercises before any run. That all makes sense and goes along w/ the sheet of running drills that he gave me. Of course, I do those as well/often as I do my core work. I need more hours in the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 2011-02-15 4:50 PM in reply to: #3256813 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed Ok, who killed the MG? |
| 2011-02-15 5:07 PM in reply to: #3356767 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed |
| 2011-02-15 5:16 PM in reply to: #3256813 |
Veteran 200 | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed Hello guys, I am looking to purchase a trainer on craigslist and wanted to know which one was a better buy. Bellow are the two listings. Thanks!! http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/spo/2216465221.html or http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/2216112935.html |
| 2011-02-15 5:25 PM in reply to: #3356794 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: swbkrun with us!!! - Closed GrapeJuice - 2011-02-15 6:16 PM Hello guys, I am looking to purchase a trainer on craigslist and wanted to know which one was a better buy. Bellow are the two listings. Thanks!! http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/spo/2216465221.html or http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/2216112935.html I would go for the 2nd one as it appears to be used less. JMTCW |
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