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2011-05-24 7:48 PM in reply to: #3006331 |
Champion 9430 No excuses! | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Michigan is ridiculous, freezing all spring then we get a couple of hot days and the lake I swim in warms up so fast. Swam today with no wetsuit and was plenty warm. May have to venture out to Lake Michigan to get some cold water practice. Temp there as of this morning, 47 degrees. BRRRRRRRR! |
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2011-05-24 8:23 PM in reply to: #3006331 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread I feel kinda ready. |
2011-05-24 8:30 PM in reply to: #3006331 |
20 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Swam in Lake Coeur D Alene today. About 30 minutes worth. It is around 50 degrees. It was tolerable. Another month to warm up and it won't be bad at all. |
2011-05-24 11:44 PM in reply to: #3517012 |
Extreme Veteran 833 Strong Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread pga_mike - 2011-05-24 8:23 PM I feel kinda ready.
You and me both, Brother! I never thought I'd be so anxious for something so ridiculously hard to get here! |
2011-05-25 4:27 AM in reply to: #3517249 |
Champion 9430 No excuses! | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread jackson61802 - 2011-05-25 12:44 AM pga_mike - 2011-05-24 8:23 PM I feel kinda ready.
You and me both, Brother! I never thought I'd be so anxious for something so ridiculously hard to get here!
My 2 cents worth, the race isn't the hard part, not calling an IM easy but its the training and all the battles we go through on a daily basis to get to the starting line is the hard part. |
2011-05-25 7:26 AM in reply to: #3517293 |
Regular 69 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread My 2 cents worth, the race isn't the hard part, not calling an IM easy but its the training and all the battles we go through on a daily basis to get to the starting line is the hard part. I agree! I think all this training is harder than the race (not that I have done the race yet)...race is only one day...this is months of training, being tired and hungry and having your friends and loved ones think you are a cross between the coolest person they know and the craziest! We are ready for the ONE day that is IM!!!! I have my last BIG DAY of training this weekend. I need to find someone to come out and swim in the cold MN lake with me....shocker no one really wants to do that |
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2011-05-25 9:25 AM in reply to: #3006331 |
Extreme Veteran 396 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Agreed, staying motivated to keep training as we reach our peak fitness level is a challenge. I skipped Monday's workout to spend some time with my daughter, so Tuesday workout became a brick. I was having a hard time getting through the run mentally. A car drove by with an M-dot sticker in the window. That was enough to kick me back into high gear and to get my butt moving. I want one of those in my window. |
2011-05-25 10:11 AM in reply to: #3006331 |
Expert 839 Portland, OR | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Indeed - these last few weeks are a combination of fear, fatigue and the desire to kill it on race day. These last 4 heavy weeks have been taking their toll on me physically and emotionally and just like Lea this weekend is my last big weekend so I just keep telling myself - 4 more days!!!! Having done this 2 times already I can offer this advice. Hang with it, all of the adaptation and fitness you've been working so hard for will be there come race day if you taper well and put some $ back in the bank with the family and friends these next few weeks. They've probably suffered more than us in some ways. We are less than a week away from June people! |
2011-05-25 11:06 AM in reply to: #3006331 |
Extreme Veteran 833 Strong Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Uggh, had an aweful nightmare last night. It was the IM version or the one where you're back in school and you have a test that you didn't study for. It was race day, and it was a repeating loop of being in T1 but having no idea where I was supposed to go on the bike. Nobody around to direct me and by the time I figure it out, the bike course was closed.Man it was horrible! |
2011-05-25 11:16 AM in reply to: #3516216 |
Regular 81 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread TriRSquared - 2011-05-24 12:44 PM We address this earlier. It is believed the 4PM cutoff was a typo left over from a 3 loop course. You must be out on your second lap by 1:30 5:30 is the cutoff for the second lap of the bike. Thanks, I missed the earlier post. That makes sense that its from a 3 loop course.
Polly |
2011-05-25 11:19 AM in reply to: #3518025 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Ha! The nightmares. I had one two nights ago where my bike got stolen in Idaho and there was not enough time to get my old one there for the race and I was totally bummed about the lack of bike insurance etc. As to Blue 70 goggles, I used them for 2 Ims. I used the 30$ kind, forget what they were called but they served me well for the last two seasons. Lately i have been using the FINIS brand. they are clear but they are super comfy, don't fog, 11$ or so, and long lasting. I thought they would be carp but they have become my go to goggles. Today I am slacking. I am supposed to swim 3500 yards and ride 2.5 hours but its been so hot that I tried to knock the bike out first, which I did. But then I came back and am saying screw it for the outdoor swim. I know it wont make or break me, but you still feel guilty when you miss a work out. Hopefully, I can get the swim in tonight or push it to tomorrow am worse case scenario. |
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2011-05-25 11:43 AM in reply to: #3006331 |
Regular 183 Parker, Colorado | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread So after training consistently for six months and being extremely careful about running because I was worried my knees wouldn't hold up, my left hip has decided it doesn't like long runs very much. It started on a totally flat 13-miler early this month, and has been recovering enough after two days to hold up fine for 6-7 milers, but the day or two after long runs are seriously painful. Internet self-diagnosis fits hip bursitis, and it is responding to icing and stretching. So any advice on what my best course of action is at this point: 1) Stick to 6-7 milers 3-4 times a week to hold fitness as best I can or 2) Shut it down for two weeks and see if I can completely heal it, then rebuild as far as possible for two weeks?? Right now, I'm taking five days off of running and doing extra biking instead, but will probably try it on Friday and see how it goes. Kind of bummed that my grand plan of peak training for these next two weeks is out of the window, but hopefully I will get through it and still be mostly ready when it counts. |
2011-05-25 11:53 AM in reply to: #3518096 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Matt I would not do any further damage trying to slam in some fitness at the end. You would be better served letting the area calm down and being less inflamed. The key point now is to get to the start line feeling as good as possible. My advice would be to only do what you can that won't aggravate the situation. |
2011-05-25 12:15 PM in reply to: #3518056 |
Champion 5345 Carlsbad, California | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread phatknot - 2011-05-25 9:19 AM Today I am slacking. I am supposed to swim 3500 yards and ride 2.5 hours but its been so hot that I tried to knock the bike out first, which I did. But then I came back and am saying screw it for the outdoor swim. I know it wont make or break me, but you still feel guilty when you miss a work out. Hopefully, I can get the swim in tonight or push it to tomorrow am worse case scenario. I suspect some slacking is in order. You have had one full rest day this month and looks like it has been a while since your last real cutback week. An active recovery day might put some mojo in your workouts later this week or maybe next. Not sure if cutback weeks or active recovery is a part of your plan but I am sure your body will force the issue if need be Does your plan call for a 3 week or a 2 week taper? Edited by WaterDog66 2011-05-25 12:17 PM |
2011-05-25 12:26 PM in reply to: #3518120 |
Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread phatknot - 2011-05-25 9:53 AM Matt I would not do any further damage trying to slam in some fitness at the end. You would be better served letting the area calm down and being less inflamed. The key point now is to get to the start line feeling as good as possible. My advice would be to only do what you can that won't aggravate the situation. Agree. Keep icing it, give it some time to calm down. When you try some light jogging again, consider doing some run/walk for awhile - like 4 mins run, 1 min walk. You might also move to a track or grass to reduce some of the impact. But if you feel it again, back off right away and don't run through it. |
2011-05-25 12:36 PM in reply to: #3006331 |
Member 78 Salt Lake City, UT | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Second cautionary tale about feeling peppy: you may be sporting a fever. I forgot how having a fever makes me hyper. An hour after I posted on Monday about feeling peppy I was doubled over puking. I got the stomache flu with the full package of fever, chills, and body aches. Remember your immune system is probably not at it's best when you are hitting your peak volume and/or intensity. I know this, but got overly confident because I've avoid major illness since December. I'll call myself lucky if I only miss two days of training this week. |
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2011-05-25 12:52 PM in reply to: #3518096 |
Extreme Veteran 396 | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread coxma22 - 2011-05-25 11:43 AM So after training consistently for six months and being extremely careful about running because I was worried my knees wouldn't hold up, my left hip has decided it doesn't like long runs very much. It started on a totally flat 13-miler early this month, and has been recovering enough after two days to hold up fine for 6-7 milers, but the day or two after long runs are seriously painful. Internet self-diagnosis fits hip bursitis, and it is responding to icing and stretching. So any advice on what my best course of action is at this point: 1) Stick to 6-7 milers 3-4 times a week to hold fitness as best I can or 2) Shut it down for two weeks and see if I can completely heal it, then rebuild as far as possible for two weeks?? Right now, I'm taking five days off of running and doing extra biking instead, but will probably try it on Friday and see how it goes. Kind of bummed that my grand plan of peak training for these next two weeks is out of the window, but hopefully I will get through it and still be mostly ready when it counts. I have had some hip issues since Feburary. I went to therapy. They did ultra sound once and have had me doing pigeon pose for stretching and then some plank moves for strength. In plank I started with a basic hold and then rocked back and forth and side to side. After two weeks of that they increased the movement in plank to a mountain climber, side lift with straight leg and a side lift with a bent leg. I also started using a foam roller to work out the tightness. It hurts more after sitting along time then when I'm actually running or biking. |
2011-05-25 12:55 PM in reply to: #3006331 |
Extreme Veteran 833 Strong Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Whats everyone's plan for taper? Im not following a plan, but it sounds like most of you folks have a 3 week taper planned. What do your workouts look like during that time? The last week before raceday will be mostly travel for me, but what about the 1.5-2 weeks before? I was thinking 3 or 4 short runs (4-5 miles), a couple easy hour long trainer rides, and as many easy days in the pool/ocean as I can get. Any suggestions? |
2011-05-25 1:03 PM in reply to: #3006331 |
Extreme Veteran 833 Strong Beach, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread Oh, and one more question on tires/tubes:
I'm renting a 404/808 clincher setup from a local shop for super cheap. They have Conty Grand Prix 4000 tires on them. Should I buy a couple latex tubes to throw in them? I was planning on removing the tires and inspecting for any potential issues, as well as to make sure I have a handle on the valve extenders, etc so it would be no biggie to put them in. |
2011-05-25 1:15 PM in reply to: #3518343 |
Master 1661 Newbury Park, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread jackson61802 - 2011-05-25 11:03 AM Oh, and one more question on tires/tubes:
I'm renting a 404/808 clincher setup from a local shop for super cheap. They have Conty Grand Prix 4000 tires on them. Should I buy a couple latex tubes to throw in them? I was planning on removing the tires and inspecting for any potential issues, as well as to make sure I have a handle on the valve extenders, etc so it would be no biggie to put them in. I'm sure the general concensus is to put some Latex Tubes in them at the least, if not also swapping out to better tires. I wanted to bring up valve extenders. I highly recommend using valve extenders that work with removable core tubes instead of the kind of valve extender that you lock open the valve of the tube and place the extender over. I have had much better luck that way. Example of what I like: http://www.trisports.com/devaex.html Example of what is harder: http://www.zipp.com/accessories/detail.php?ID=120 One reason is it is much harder to tell how much air you are putting in to the "Zipp" type extenders. As someone who had a tire blow in an IM Transition after inflating the tire I can say it isn't worth it. |
2011-05-25 1:17 PM in reply to: #3518197 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread actually i had a mini taper going into rev3 on may 15 and a mini recovery after but you are right. i probably could do with some rest. having said that, rest is not my thing. my overarching goal is not to go to Kona but to eat cake, ice cream and cookies or whatev I want whenev I want so the IM thing is more about allowing me to be a foodie and still be fit and healthy. Could I be a better triathlete if I rested more? Most likely. Could I have a phatter azz causing me to eat/drink less if I rested more? Most likely. as to taper, the conventional wisdom is generally a cutback of 3 weeks to 75 %, 50%, to 25% of total vol or about along those lines. Last year we did something like that. Shanks said I will do a 22 miler next Tuesday then start cutting back to like 15 then 12 miler long runs. He also wants me swimming more now as its less taxing but still needed because that got cut so I could run more this build. I still think I can and will ride a few centuries just to keep adapting to the new bike. Plus the bike doesnt hurt as much as running. |
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2011-05-25 1:21 PM in reply to: #3518343 |
Regular 183 Parker, Colorado | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread jackson61802 - 2011-05-25 12:03 PM Oh, and one more question on tires/tubes:
I'm renting a 404/808 clincher setup from a local shop for super cheap. They have Conty Grand Prix 4000 tires on them. Should I buy a couple latex tubes to throw in them? I was planning on removing the tires and inspecting for any potential issues, as well as to make sure I have a handle on the valve extenders, etc so it would be no biggie to put them in. If you're going to be in there anyway, I would definitely put latex tubes in - probably the cheapest speed you can buy. Just make sure 1) That you can find them - I wound up buying Michelin ones from a mail order place in England; 2) You put them in and ride on them for an hour or two before the race, to make sure you have a good install; 3) You have a plan for handling a flat during the race with respect to the valve extenders - some types require teflon tape on the threads, which is probably a no-go to move over during the race - you should make sure that whatever you have in your spare kit can go right into the wheel without having to move extenders around. You can buy a butyl tube for a 404 with a long enough stem, the 808 is a lot harder and you will probably need a third extender for your spare kit. |
2011-05-25 1:53 PM in reply to: #3518383 |
Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread coxma22 - 2011-05-25 11:21 AM jackson61802 - 2011-05-25 12:03 PM If you're going to be in there anyway, I would definitely put latex tubes in - probably the cheapest speed you can buy. Just make sure 1) That you can find them - I wound up buying Michelin ones from a mail order place in England; 2) You put them in and ride on them for an hour or two before the race, to make sure you have a good install; 3) You have a plan for handling a flat during the race with respect to the valve extenders - some types require teflon tape on the threads, which is probably a no-go to move over during the race - you should make sure that whatever you have in your spare kit can go right into the wheel without having to move extenders around. You can buy a butyl tube for a 404 with a long enough stem, the 808 is a lot harder and you will probably need a third extender for your spare kit.Oh, and one more question on tires/tubes:
I'm renting a 404/808 clincher setup from a local shop for super cheap. They have Conty Grand Prix 4000 tires on them. Should I buy a couple latex tubes to throw in them? I was planning on removing the tires and inspecting for any potential issues, as well as to make sure I have a handle on the valve extenders, etc so it would be no biggie to put them in. Small point about the Zipp extenders that not everyone may know: the opening of the extender is shaped to fit an allen wrench. So if you don't have teflon tape, you can use a wrench to get the extender nice and tight against the valve stem (or to free it, if needed). |
2011-05-25 6:26 PM in reply to: #3518473 |
Regular 171 Madison, AL | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread I've been using the ziipp extenders for about a year now. Before every race I do a couple of things: 1) fully open valves and put a dab of superglue on top of valve. 2) Apply fresh plumber's tape to valve. 3) hand-tighten zipp extenders onto valve. No special tools required, and haven't had any significant leakage before, during, or after a race. Since I only hand-tightened extenders, I can just loosen by hand if I flat. |
2011-05-25 6:49 PM in reply to: #3518323 |
Veteran 490 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread jackson61802 - 2011-05-25 12:55 PM Whats everyone's plan for taper? Im not following a plan, but it sounds like most of you folks have a 3 week taper planned. What do your workouts look like during that time? The last week before raceday will be mostly travel for me, but what about the 1.5-2 weeks before? I was thinking 3 or 4 short runs (4-5 miles), a couple easy hour long trainer rides, and as many easy days in the pool/ocean as I can get. Any suggestions? I've got 21 , 23, 14, 11, 5 hours until race day. |
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