Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed (Page 11)

Maybe it's your body adjusting to the larger volume?  I took a peek at your logs and it looks like you doubled your long ride from 43 miles to 80 in a week.  I get pain like that initially but when I slowly increase the volume my body adjusts and I feel no pain.  But if you are consistently riding that distance and still feeling the pain then I'd say it's probably your saddle. 

So I went to my local library and ordered the book everyone is talking about.  I didn't feel like spending more money on yet another running/cycling/triathlon book.  But... then my family bought me a Kindle for my birthday so now I get my own copy for less than I'd pay at the bookstore!  My hubby - a non runner/triathlete - must think I'm whacked.  The last book I read was "Run Less Run Faster" and now I'm about to start reading a book that will tell me to run slower.  ?!

Got an easy run in this morning but missed my evening swim.  I find it so hard between homework, dog walking, dinner etc etc to get my butt out the door in time for a decent pool swim!  The fear of having to swim 2000m in the not-so-distant future is a bit motivating!!

Someone posted about areo bars....  I started using clip ons at the beginning of the year and I love them.  Because it was to clod to ride outside I benefited from the trainer and just getting used to being in the aero  position.  I felt wobbly the first few times out doors but I am getting much better. Like everything it just takes a little time.

Today was supposed to be hill intervals on the bike but our son was sick so I waited for Scott to get home to do the Spinervals Speed/Power Intervals Time Saver workout.  

27:29 6.71 miles 14.65mph Avg HR 152.. Felt good to feel the burn!  But I didn't eat enough throughout the day.  Very light headed at the end.  Might be due to the lack of oxygen in this town...LOL!!!

I have similar experiences when I increase my distances quickly. Give it a couple more weeks with those distances and see how it feels then. If no changes, might want to consider changing saddle. Or, maybe the shorts are the problem?

First day back in the pool in a LONG time and although it wasn't a long workout, just 1500m, I felt great, didn't feel like I really worked hard AND my main set of 10x100m with 30second rest was my best ever as each 100 was about 1:55.  Normally I'm around 2:20. 

Don't know if it's because of all the running and I'm just able to go faster or what.  Maybe I learned a little better form by osmosis or something

Oh- Forgot to mention.. Garmin was great about replacing my HR monitor and I love the new one!!!!

Also- Chris... As you know I've been struggling with shoes and feet issues from the beginning.  I did take your advice and get a pair of Fivefingers.  I walk in them or wear them to the kids track practice so far.  I was looking into the Newton shoes and I think I want to try them out...  I ordered some Asics in the meantime.  The Brooks the Dr had me in were almost the death of me!  Let me know how they are.  I was looking at the Motion line though.  

For those of you using clip on aero bars - can you recommend a brand?

Thanks
Marcia

more MAF questions:

From what I have read it seems to be more suited to athletes performing longer distances?

I understand the idea of slower runs lowers HR over time, but all i read/see are people running really slow for several months before achieveing PR's - so does this MAF method eventually add 'speed' workouts that are typical to normal training programs?

Does it only improve running - I have seen no reference to cycling.

I am still a novice but I know importance of carbs in diet, but I get the impression that MAF reduces/removes carbs from a diet - is this right?

Mark.

Lots of bicycle shops offer a no hassle return/exchange policy, some as long as 90 days. Make use of it and try until you find your match. It took me about a year.

Speed training is addressed.

It applies to all three sports, mostly cycling and running. The pool is hard because of two reasons, perception in the pool is that you're going harder than what you really are and second, most HR monitors don't work in the water. Therefore you have to go by a (skewed) effort perception.

About the diet, it promotes the ingestion of healthy carbs and reduces almost to the point of elimination anything starchy like potatoes, rice, flours, grains, etc. Even certain types of beans are restricted. When it comes to the food part though, I suck at following my own advice...

thanks, Ernesto - I guess the proof is in the pudding as they say, so once I get this season out the way I'll look into giving it a tri :-)

... and James thanks for the links, posed good reading for and against.

Thanks to everyone for your comments.  I know I've increased my mileage a lot recently, but looking back, even when I was doing all my winter training on the turbo and my longest ride was an hour, I was still getting quite a lot of pain.  At the time I took the attitude that I was just getting used to doing 3 rides a week, blah blah blah.  However, I think I've given it long enough, and of course with the increase in mileage comes an increase in pain.

Having spent the entire bike section of my HIM last year with significant saddle issues I REALLY don't want to have the same problem at IM (for twice as long!), so I guess it's time to start shopping around.

Are you doing the Martian?  The full starts a bit before the half - maybe run into you at the finish?

I did a lot of research before I decided to try it, and then after chasing my tail for a few weeks decided to just try it. I was frusterated because I had plateaued and knew I needed to change soomething. I just started mixing in some speed work. To be honest, I don't like sprints, so I do most of my speed work playing adult soccer. Its fun to be the old guy with more endurance and better speed than 20 year olds .

Scott:

I was poking around your race listing and saw that you had done Big Fish back in 2009.  That was the last tri I did before my now 2 year old shook up my world for a bit.  In fact, we found out we were having her I think just a couple days before the race.  I woke up with vertigo that morning but got to the race regardless.  I finished a hair behind you...small world!

-Mitch

Place Sex/Tot  No.  Name    Ag Sex City/state     Rank Swim    Pace  T1      Rank Bike    Rate T2      Rank Run     Pace  Finish 

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   35  31/121   139 Scott          39 M   Ft. Gratiot MI        36    9:32  1:55    2:14   58   41:31  17.9    1:08   49   24:17  7:49 1:18:39

   37  33/121    44 Mitchell        38 M   Troy MI              122   12:03  2:25    1:53   34   39:30  18.8    1:07   52   24:25  7:52 1:18:56

Sammeg - 2012-04-11 8:52 AM So what's the groups thoughts on a first time Marathon plan? I'm currently leaning towards the Hal Hidgon Novice 2 plan ( http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51138/Marathon-Novice-2-Training-Program  for MCM in the fall. It's basically 4 runs per week with one long and 1 tempo. It appeals to me because of the simplicity, I'm a real shiny object distractable kinda guy (Just ask Marcia or David )

What other races do you have on your calendar prior to the Marathon.  How many weeks until the marathon from today?  I'm asking because I think (1) it's incredibly hard to train appropriately for HM and longer while also trying to focus on triathlon training (just my opinion) and (2) I think 4 days isn't enough.  I think if you want to run a marathon you should begin working toward running 5 to 6 days a week (preferably 6)...all easy and then slide into an appropriate training plan that has a similar # of days of running.  How much are you currently running per week (total miles, total days, how are the runs broken down)?  Also, your training log is restricted to friends for viewing - no issues with that - but wondering if you'd open it up to the mentor group?

dangremond - 2012-04-11 9:23 AM

Sammeg - 2012-04-11 8:52 AM So what's the groups thoughts on a first time Marathon plan? I'm currently leaning towards the Hal Hidgon Novice 2 plan ( http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51138/Marathon-Novice-2-Training-Program  for MCM in the fall. It's basically 4 runs per week with one long and 1 tempo. It appeals to me because of the simplicity, I'm a real shiny object distractable kinda guy (Just ask Marcia or David )

What other races do you have on your calendar prior to the Marathon.  How many weeks until the marathon from today?  I'm asking because I think (1) it's incredibly hard to train appropriately for HM and longer while also trying to focus on triathlon training (just my opinion) and (2) I think 4 days isn't enough.  I think if you want to run a marathon you should begin working toward running 5 to 6 days a week (preferably 6)...all easy and then slide into an appropriate training plan that has a similar # of days of running.  How much are you currently running per week (total miles, total days, how are the runs broken down)?  Also, your training log is restricted to friends for viewing - no issues with that - but wondering if you'd open it up to the mentor group?

Thanks for the feedback Mitch. My training for the last coupla months has been basically nil but I'm 25 weeks out from the race and was planning on building base back up over the next 6-7 weeks to begin the 18 week Marathon plan. I don't have alot of races on the calendar, Oly at the end of July, coupla summer sprints, an Oly the first week of September and that's it. I was figuring I'd folllow the 4 days per week plan through the summer(last oly of the season) and have 8 weeks prior to the race to add runs during the week.

Been planning on adding the group to my logs as soon as I compile the list of peeps in the group

Way to keep a secret!!!