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Meulen - 2013-01-03 1:24 PM

Hi Robin -

First, let me ask how your PF is feeling?  You will give me incredible hope if you tell me it is better!!  I feel like I have tried everything.  Shots.  Night splint (still wearing this).  Ice.  Rolling with a tennis ball, golf ball, frozen water bottle, specific foot roller, and Stick.  Insoles.  Heel cups.  Different running shoes.  Birkenstocks.  Not running.  Running less.  Galloway running (still doing this).  And now PT for the last 2 months.  I just started running on the treadmill at PT and it still hurts!  When I started, the PT told me he didn't want me to run until I could run totally pain free, but I think he has given up on that too!  I have probably done other things, those are just what I can think of off the top of my head!  How did you keep from just being so frustrated?  Any other suggestions you can think of?  Did you change running shoes?  I didn't like the change and went back to my regular shoes.  My mother in law just told me she heard to wrap my foot in a cloth soaked in warmed flaxseed oil!!  I am getting desperate, I might just try it!!!

Karen

Meulen - 2013-01-03 2:24 PM

Hi Robin -

First, let me ask how your PF is feeling?  You will give me incredible hope if you tell me it is better!!  I feel like I have tried everything.  Shots.  Night splint (still wearing this).  Ice.  Rolling with a tennis ball, golf ball, frozen water bottle, specific foot roller, and Stick.  Insoles.  Heel cups.  Different running shoes.  Birkenstocks.  Not running.  Running less.  Galloway running (still doing this).  And now PT for the last 2 months.  I just started running on the treadmill at PT and it still hurts!  When I started, the PT told me he didn't want me to run until I could run totally pain free, but I think he has given up on that too!  I have probably done other things, those are just what I can think of off the top of my head!  How did you keep from just being so frustrated?  Any other suggestions you can think of?  Did you change running shoes?  I didn't like the change and went back to my regular shoes.  My mother in law just told me she heard to wrap my foot in a cloth soaked in warmed flaxseed oil!!  I am getting desperate, I might just try it!!!

Karen

robingray_260 - 2013-01-03 8:12 PM

Hi Robin,

We must have been typing our posts at the same time!  It is indeed true that everyone's experiences are different.  But, let me tell you, anything that anyone has suggested to me, I have tried!

I have thought about switching to a minimalist shoe, but am kinda scared about making things worse.  Based on a recommendation, I did try some Brooks, I think Addiction, which went so much the other way.  Way to much control and an even bigger drop than what I usually wear.  (I wear the Asics GT-2170, which I guess they have totally changed anyway, so who knows what they are like now)  I felt like I had bricks on my feet and I hated them.  I do have some Zoots that I normally only race in.  I will have to check the drop on them.  It is a consideration for me...

And I totally agree with what you say about taking weeks off.  I don't feel like it has helped and it has been very bad for me mentally.  Oh, and bad for my waistline too!!

I will drop you a PM tomorrow if that is okay, so I don't bore everyone here talking about my feet!  Thanks for the offer, but you may regret it!!!!

Karen

gadgetlaw - 2013-01-03 7:48 PM

Haha!  no worries - most of this group is used to me complaining and have been nothing but gracious!

Second what Brian was saying about aquajogging - I absolutely hate it and rather watch paint dry - but I got through it last year by putting my ipod in a plastic bag then sticking it in my hat (I figured I already looked pretty stupid!) Maybe a waterproof mp3 playing is worth it?  Anyways it helps to do intervals, I did lots of 1 min on/off otherwise I couldn't get the heart rate up.

gadgetlaw - 2013-01-03 1:41 PM

As far as blisters on the toes go, I have some of the Injinji socks.  At first they felt really weird, but after having them on for a few minutes, you don't even notice the toes.  But, they keep my feet and toes happy, and I never get blisters when I wear them.  It might be worth a try.

I am still cranky and unhappy with my cold.  Normally, I can continue to work out through a cold, but my asthma is really aggravated this time, and I find it hard to breath just walking, let alone working out.  However, I also signed up for the Pittsburgh Marathon in May.  It will be my first full marathon, so I better be able to get back to training soon!

Karen

Omahabritt - 2013-01-03 7:15 PM Just a suggestion for those dealing with PF...I feel silly mentioning it & only do because some of you say you have tried everything & I didn't see it in your list. When I was suffering from PF a couple years ago, in addition to some of the things you listed, I wore slippers (Hafingers, they have arch support) ANYTIME I didn't have shoes on. I literally did not take one step in bare feet. My husband laughed at me a little, as I would step straight out of bed into them or straight out of them into the shower & then back into them. It still took months to get rid of, but seemed to help.

rquinn23 - 2013-01-03 4:28 PM Michelle, I was able to fit in 3-4 Crossfit sessions per week, but definitely let the swim workouts slide, so I did not stick to the plan 100%. That was when training for a HIM but completing shorter races during the training period. I would make sure that in the week leading up to a race that I did not do any heavy XFit workouts from Tuesday on, and none ever the day before the race, but I would still complete lighter workouts that week just to keep the training going. I would do one of my short runs just before XFit class, and on other XFit days would do a S, B or R in the morning or evening opposite my XFit (the classes were sometimes 6am sometimes 6pm depending on the day). My plan this year training for my first IM will be different, though. I looked into CrossFit Endurance, which is more specific for endurance athletes, and the suggestion is to allow a minimum of 3-4 hours between a Crossfit workout and any S, B or R workout. I will do Crossfit only 2-3 times per week, and will not pair it with any other workout back-to-back. I know most of the triathlon plans indicate that strength training is not necessary once you're full-on into the tri training plan, but I have seen the benefits of a strong core translated directly onto the bike and run. Though both biking and running use core muscles for stabilization and efficiency, neither actually strengthen those muscles. Through XFit (and therefore a strengthened core), the hip and piriformis pain which I used to have while running completely went away, and the pain and fatigue I used to get between my shoulder blades while cycling went away. This year, however, this is all contingent on my XFit gym owner giving me a discount, because I cannot afford gym membership (for the pool) and XFit at the same time, so we'll see! The other XFit advice I have is to start now if you're considering it, because the first month is BRUTAL! Lots and lots of soreness that will certainly derail some planned S, B, R workouts, so you don't want to start it while already well into your triathlon training. After the first month, there will certainly still be soreness after workouts (some more than others), but it won't be quite as debilitating. Good luck! Let me know if you try it.

gadgetlaw - 2013-01-03 1:41 PM

As far as blisters on the toes go, I have some of the Injinji socks.  At first they felt really weird, but after having them on for a few minutes, you don't even notice the toes.  But, they keep my feet and toes happy, and I never get blisters when I wear them.  It might be worth a try.

I am still cranky and unhappy with my cold.  Normally, I can continue to work out through a cold, but my asthma is really aggravated this time, and I find it hard to breath just walking, let alone working out.  However, I also signed up for the Pittsburgh Marathon in May.  It will be my first full marathon, so I better be able to get back to training soon!

Karen

bdenehy - 2013-01-04 6:35 AM

Happy Friday all!

Wanted to share my latest training-related gadget. I've never used one before but I just got a bluetooth audio converter for the TV in my garage , set up in front of my trainer. It's supposed to plug into either the TV or directly into the netflix/dvd player and convert the signal so it can be heard on bluetooth headphones. Between bike noises, the fan, and the sometimes bad sound quality of streaming programs/my old TV, i tend to jack up the volume. Since the garage is directly under my 5 year old's bedroom, it sets off a chain of events at 5am that we can do without. I'm really hoping this brings harmony since i NEED entertainment if exercising inside.

Well, we are only a few days into the new year, but so far, so good with consistency.

Omahabritt - 2013-01-04 9:14 AM Wow Nate, you make me feel like such a slacker with all your double workouts! I was up at 5 this morning for a tough spin class followed by some strength training. This weekend I'll get a run or two in & maybe a Pilates class. My core always needs work, so I'm taking some time these next couple of weeks to do some other types of exercise I don't nomally have time for when in full training mode. While at the gym, I got in a conversation with a friend about our disdain for musicals. All our talk about TM's made me think, "imagine watching a musical while on the TM", not sure if it can get any worse! At least for me!

zee744 - 2013-01-04 7:56 AM

Happy Friday, all!

I'm feeling a good weekend! Took the day off yesterday with some soreness, plus a hot date...so we'll start off the weekend with a swim and run tonight. Longer bike tomorrow with a short run. Short bike and longer run on Sunday. Also, it's the start of the PLAYOFFS!! Luckily my Niners have no game 

What does everyone else have in store? What are you long workouts considered at this point? 

Meulen - 2013-01-04 9:16 AM

Happy Friday!

 

Friday's are rest days on my program.  I've got my parents coming over tonight for dinner and wine.  Funny Ice mentioned strength training.  My coach had me start with Kettle bells about a month ago and we are adding more and more time with Kettle bells and adding a full out weight program too.  In conjunction with a diet, my program has shifted to more strength training and less long workouts.  So Saturday we've got a 30min pool run/1hr swim workout/ and a 1hr hill repeat ride on the trainer.  Sunday I've got a 3 hour hill repeat ride on the trainer.  Haven't been doing so well with my sinuses lately though.  So hoping I'm healthy enough to get it all done this weekend!

zee744 - 2013-01-04 8:56 AM

Happy Friday, all!

I'm feeling a good weekend! Took the day off yesterday with some soreness, plus a hot date...so we'll start off the weekend with a swim and run tonight. Longer bike tomorrow with a short run. Short bike and longer run on Sunday. Also, it's the start of the PLAYOFFS!! Luckily my Niners have no game 

What does everyone else have in store? What are you long workouts considered at this point? 

zee744 - 2013-01-04 8:56 AM

Happy Friday, all!

I'm feeling a good weekend! Took the day off yesterday with some soreness, plus a hot date...so we'll start off the weekend with a swim and run tonight. Longer bike tomorrow with a short run. Short bike and longer run on Sunday. Also, it's the start of the PLAYOFFS!! Luckily my Niners have no game 

What does everyone else have in store? What are you long workouts considered at this point?