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49:30 on the drainer "The Wretched"

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Dan 6 07:58:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
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Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
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Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 6 05:00:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Scott 5 4:34:00
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60min on the trainer - Ian Campbell

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Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 6 07:58:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 6 06:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 6 05:00:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
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Seth 5 05:02:00
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Troy 2 00:60:25
2015-01-09 4:11 AM
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45 min in the pool for 1000 meters

Beth 5 05:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 6 06:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 6 05:00:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 3 03:52:00
Troy 2 00:60:25



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2015-01-09 4:27 AM
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Mitch mentioned using pacing for running. If you have a recent race time, go Greg McMillan's web site and plug your time/distance into his calculator. It will generate various paces. By default it will show you other distance race times first. Click on "training times" link on the left side menu and you will see a bunch of different paces (easy, tempo, etc.).

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/


For swimming, if you are a decent swimmer (and I am not), check out the swim smooth article and calculator for CSS:

http://www.swimsmooth.com/training.html
2015-01-09 7:22 AM
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Thanks for all the advice everyone. The McMillan website is interesting. Whether by pace or HR monitor, I think it would be good for me to start structuring my workouts a little better.
2015-01-09 7:46 AM
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Beth 5 05:00:00
1:18:00 easy run. 8.34 miles.

Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 6 06:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 6 05:00:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25


2015-01-09 9:35 AM
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1 hour spin class last night- I don't own a trainer so this is the best I can get in the dark and cold -

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 6 06:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 6 05:00:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25


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2015-01-09 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by cassowary

Thanks for all the advice everyone. The McMillan website is interesting. Whether by pace or HR monitor, I think it would be good for me to start structuring my workouts a little better.


McMillan is a fun calculator, but not too accurate. It works better at correlating long distance pace to short distance pace. In the converse, the correlation falls apart. Running a fast 5K doesn't equate to marathon distances. Believe me, I wish McMillan was accurate on long distance paces as I would have easily had a BQ.
2015-01-09 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by JoePetto

Originally posted by cassowary

Thanks for all the advice everyone. The McMillan website is interesting. Whether by pace or HR monitor, I think it would be good for me to start structuring my workouts a little better.


McMillan is a fun calculator, but not too accurate. It works better at correlating long distance pace to short distance pace. In the converse, the correlation falls apart. Running a fast 5K doesn't equate to marathon distances. Believe me, I wish McMillan was accurate on long distance paces as I would have easily had a BQ.


I have a McMillan anecdote. I ran my youngest daughters 5k pace for her State regional event based on her 1 mile time. The result was about 40 seconds faster that her fastest 5k. I don't know if it had an effect on her or gave her confidence, but she ended up beating the McMillan time by a second.
The being said, the calculator is sort of accurate, but not really. There are too many variables it can't calculate, like weather, course, physical and mental condition of the runner on race day, etc.
It is fun to play with and when all of the stars are aligned it can be right, just don't count on it or be disappointed with your results based on it.
2015-01-09 10:46 AM
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Finally adding myself in. Did a mile swim on Wednesday after taking the baby in the pool for a bit - he's starting to love being in the water :-)

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 6 06:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 6 05:00:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 3 02:51:10
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25

2015-01-09 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by JBacarella

Originally posted by JoePetto

Originally posted by cassowary

Thanks for all the advice everyone. The McMillan website is interesting. Whether by pace or HR monitor, I think it would be good for me to start structuring my workouts a little better.


McMillan is a fun calculator, but not too accurate. It works better at correlating long distance pace to short distance pace. In the converse, the correlation falls apart. Running a fast 5K doesn't equate to marathon distances. Believe me, I wish McMillan was accurate on long distance paces as I would have easily had a BQ.


I have a McMillan anecdote. I ran my youngest daughters 5k pace for her State regional event based on her 1 mile time. The result was about 40 seconds faster that her fastest 5k. I don't know if it had an effect on her or gave her confidence, but she ended up beating the McMillan time by a second.
The being said, the calculator is sort of accurate, but not really. There are too many variables it can't calculate, like weather, course, physical and mental condition of the runner on race day, etc.
It is fun to play with and when all of the stars are aligned it can be right, just don't count on it or be disappointed with your results based on it.


For running I use the Maffetone method for long runs. For short (track) sessions I use Jack Daniels. We do a time trial a few times a year to get the race pace, although you can use any hard race effort, then use that to calculate a "Vdot", which gives you training and race paces. I've used it for half marathons to calculate a good running pace and got some very good times from it.

This is one of the calculators, although I have an app on my phone that I use: http://www.attackpoint.org/trainingpaces.jsp


2015-01-09 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella

Originally posted by JoePetto

Originally posted by cassowary

Thanks for all the advice everyone. The McMillan website is interesting. Whether by pace or HR monitor, I think it would be good for me to start structuring my workouts a little better.


McMillan is a fun calculator, but not too accurate. It works better at correlating long distance pace to short distance pace. In the converse, the correlation falls apart. Running a fast 5K doesn't equate to marathon distances. Believe me, I wish McMillan was accurate on long distance paces as I would have easily had a BQ.


I have a McMillan anecdote. I ran my youngest daughters 5k pace for her State regional event based on her 1 mile time. The result was about 40 seconds faster that her fastest 5k. I don't know if it had an effect on her or gave her confidence, but she ended up beating the McMillan time by a second.
The being said, the calculator is sort of accurate, but not really. There are too many variables it can't calculate, like weather, course, physical and mental condition of the runner on race day, etc.
It is fun to play with and when all of the stars are aligned it can be right, just don't count on it or be disappointed with your results based on it.


I think its only as accurate as the work you put in. I think it does a good job showing your potential. Meeting that potential at HM and beyond distance depends on so many factors its silly.
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30' recovery ride on the trainer. Hard to motivate myself to go to the pool when the real feel temp is MINUS 15 degrees fahrenheit.

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 6 06:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 3 02:51:10
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25


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1 hr tempo runch on the dreadmill

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 4 05:20:35
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 3 02:51:10
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25
2015-01-09 1:18 PM
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31:32 run this morning.

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 06 07:35:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 5 05:52:07
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 3 02:51:10
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25

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Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Adding 45' swim at the pool.

Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 07 08:10:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 5 05:52:07
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 3 02:51:10
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25


2015-01-09 3:12 PM
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Tri club swim session this evening for an hour. Hard effort, but I really enjoyed it and felt like I regained my flow towards the end. First time since I got back in the water after the baby that I've felt like I've found my long distance stroke and haven't been fighting the water. :-)

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 1 01:00:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 6 07:05:00
Dennis 07 08:10:15
Gabe 05 07:01:17
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 5 05:52:07
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 4 03:51:26
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25
2015-01-09 3:30 PM
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Originally posted by Sillygal 1 hour spin class last night- I don't own a trainer so this is the best I can get in the dark and cold

Way to go Beth, the important thing is to try to keep the consistency in the training in order to achieve better results!

2015-01-09 3:33 PM
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Originally posted by chapfallen Tri club swim session this evening for an hour. Hard effort, but I really enjoyed it and felt like I regained my flow towards the end. First time since I got back in the water after the baby that I've felt like I've found my long distance stroke and haven't been fighting the water. :-)

Also Kuddos to you Rachel! How is the new baby doing?

2015-01-09 3:34 PM
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Adding a 10 mile morning run

Beth 6 06:00:00 
Brain 1 01:00:00 
Dan 7 08:43:15 
Dave C. 2 02:20:00 
DaveL. 6 07:05:00 
Dennis 07 08:10:15 
Gabe 06 08:35:45 
Jackie 3 02:18:06 
Jim 7 07:40:10 
Joe 6 05:35:11 
Kate 5 04:26:40 
Kevin 2 01:00:00 
Lisa 5 05:52:07 
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00 
Melissa 3 03:01:15 
Mitch 7 05:30:00 
Patrick 5 03:47:03 
Rachel 4 03:51:26 
Scott 5 4:34:00 
Seth 5 05:02:00 
Todd 4 05:10:00 
Troy 2 00:60:25 

2015-01-09 5:44 PM
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Self imposed rest day as I am wrestling with illness. Hope to be back at it tomorrow. So, since it's not cold enough here in Philly, I get to spen half of next week in suburban Buffalo - ugh. Think the Hampton Inn has a treadmill - morning lows less than zero!!!

So, I started watching Elements of Style and really impressed with the quality of the new SF production and instruction. It's funny, we talk a lot about swimming and running form on these forums, but rarely does cycling forum get discussed. I'd encourage everyone to spend time with cycling drills (especially during trainer season). There's a lot of extra power lost due to poor form. Try cycling at 110-115 cadence and notice whether you have a pedal stroke with no hitch in it. Same goes for one leg drills (highly recommended). If there's a dead spot anywhere in the stroke, you are losing power. Elements of Style will address these flaws and others. Hoping to do it tomorrow.


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47 minutes on the treadmill - nice and slow....

Beth 6 06:00:00 
Brain 1 01:00:00 
Dan 7 08:43:15 
Dave C. 2 02:20:00 
DaveL. 7 07:50:00 
Dennis 07 08:10:15 
Gabe 06 08:35:45 
Jackie 3 02:18:06 
Jim 7 07:40:10 
Joe 6 05:35:11 
Kate 5 04:26:40 
Kevin 2 01:00:00 
Lisa 5 05:52:07 
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00 
Melissa 3 03:01:15 
Mitch 7 05:30:00 
Patrick 5 03:47:03 
Rachel 4 03:51:26 
Scott 5 4:34:00 
Seth 5 05:02:00 
Todd 4 05:10:00 
Troy 2 00:60:25 


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Pool was closed yesterday for a swim meet, and just got a FB message saying it is closed all day on Saturday for maintenance and "we'll contact you when it reopens" This just after it reopens after being closed for 3 months for heater repairs! Someone just doesn't want me to swim.

Friday - 1.5 hrs on trainer

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 2 03:30:00
Dan 7 08:43:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 7 07:50:00
Dennis 07 08:10:15
Gabe 06 08:35:45
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 5 05:52:07
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 4 03:51:26
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25


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2015-01-10 6:38 AM
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50 minutes on the trainer - main set was 2 X 8' @ Z4 (197 watts). It was supposed to be longer, but 3 grandkids arrived today and I was lucky to carve out those 50 minutes.

Beth 6 06:00:00
Brain 2 03:30:00
Dan 8 09:33:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 7 07:50:00
Dennis 07 08:10:15
Gabe 06 08:35:45
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 5 05:52:07
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 4 03:51:26
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25

2015-01-10 11:09 AM
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Friday night recovery run: 3 miles 42 mins.
Saturday am: spin class 1 hour.


Beth 8 07:42:00
Brain 2 03:30:00
Dan 8 09:33:15
Dave C. 2 02:20:00
DaveL. 7 07:50:00
Dennis 07 08:10:15
Gabe 06 08:35:45
Jackie 3 02:18:06
Jim 7 07:40:10
Joe 6 05:35:11
Kate 5 04:26:40
Kevin 2 01:00:00
Lisa 5 05:52:07
Mark Z. 3 02:10:00
Melissa 3 03:01:15
Mitch 7 05:30:00
Patrick 5 03:47:03
Rachel 4 03:51:26
Scott 5 4:34:00
Seth 5 05:02:00
Todd 4 05:10:00
Troy 2 00:60:25


Tomorrow is a 9 mile run but it's looking like a treadmill run due to the near freezing temp and rain expected. I'm going to shoot for noon when the cowboys are playing. Should make the gym empty and give me something to watch.
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