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sdalessio - 2011-02-18 7:22 PM Bike porn!!!!!!!

Tony just got home w/ my new bike.  I might cry.  Smile  It's so pretty that I am scared to touch it.




REALLY LOVE THE DESIGN....especially that seatpost.  What pedals are you putting on it? making any other changes?  I think you are going to pass Tony on that speed demon!

How's the achille's these days?


Thanks everyone!

It is an XS - I am 5'3".  I have no idea about what we will be switching.  I leave that stuff to Tony and Eric.  Tony's already told me some of the front stuff like aero bars, brake levers, etc need to be switched out.  And don't worry the reflectors will be coming off.  Tony would divorce if I left the house on the bike w/ those on.  Tongue out

I'm guessing I will go w/ the same pedals.  They are not the round ones type.  It will be a few weeks before I can ride the bike.  I've got to get a fit scheduled.  I can't even sit on it w/ the seat post so high - it has to be cut.  Not sure about a name - I'll have to work on that.  :-)

I'll post more pics when everything gets fit for me.

Achilles is A-ok.  Two runs down and no soreness.  Although I walked the kids to and from their schools yesterday since the weather was so nice and I was so tired last night.  My feet were sore and I woke up w/ tired legs.  Pretty sad - I would think w/ everything that I do a little walking would not do me in!


You ought to see if he will put the clothes pin and baseball card in the spokes (LOL) oh wait am I showing my age. sure makes me want to have my wife yell at me and get that bike she would probably divorce me. Just looking at it you can see the speed


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Had a good swim today recovery week so swam 3000m went ahead and swam in my wetsuit it was only the 3rd time so thought it was a good time to use it. The 1st 500m was a little rough but once the suit settled into position the rest of the swim went smooth.

As for the ride today it didn't happen every time I tried I kept getting called out so after the last call  I just gave up on that notion.
2011-02-20 6:45 AM
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So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?

2011-02-20 7:28 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:45 AM

So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?



I checked your logs. Any chance this started with the beginning of ski season? If so, it might not be your shoes.

Do you still have a pair of your old Brooks? You could try a run in the old pair to see if it helps. I wouldn't switch to an entirely new kind of shoes this close to a race, but if you're just switching back to the Brooks a week should be enough time to break in a new pair.
2011-02-20 7:37 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:45 AM

So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?



I checked your logs. Any chance this started with the beginning of ski season? If so, it might not be your shoes.

Do you still have a pair of your old Brooks? You could try a run in the old pair to see if it helps. I wouldn't switch to an entirely new kind of shoes this close to a race, but if you're just switching back to the Brooks a week should be enough time to break in a new pair.


Is this something common that happens to females?  Never heard of it for men or women...trauma to the bladder seems like it would happen to most everyone and this would be something that is talked about more often on the message boards (maybe it is and I just miss it).  I am thinking that if the frequency has increased, you should get your doctor to refer you to a urologist (sp?) and get it check further.
2011-02-20 8:04 AM
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It started before ski season. 

This is isolated to the first pee after a run. Never any other time.

I was thinking about going back to the Asics which I ran on last year before switching to the Brooks.  I think I'll try that first to see if it subsides then go back to the Dr if it doesn't.

I did search the boards for similar instances and found nothing else that sounded similar.  Other blood in urine issues had to do with kidney stones and was more of a constant problem.

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2011-02-20 8:14 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:04 AM It started before ski season. 

This is isolated to the first pee after a run. Never any other time.

I was thinking about going back to the Asics which I ran on last year before switching to the Brooks.  I think I'll try that first to see if it subsides then go back to the Dr if it doesn't.

I did search the boards for similar instances and found nothing else that sounded similar.  Other blood in urine issues had to do with kidney stones and was more of a constant problem.


I have heard about a blood in the stream after biking. The constant pressure apllied to that area cause some issues. But never running.
BUt check this article out....
http://www.time-to-run.com/doctor/bloodyurine.htm
2011-02-20 9:01 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 9:04 AM It started before ski season. 

This is isolated to the first pee after a run. Never any other time.

I was thinking about going back to the Asics which I ran on last year before switching to the Brooks.  I think I'll try that first to see if it subsides then go back to the Dr if it doesn't.

I did search the boards for similar instances and found nothing else that sounded similar.  Other blood in urine issues had to do with kidney stones and was more of a constant problem.



Oops - I got the shoe switch reversed! Seems like switching back is worth a try.
2011-02-20 9:10 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 8:04 AM It started before ski season. 

This is isolated to the first pee after a run. Never any other time.

I was thinking about going back to the Asics which I ran on last year before switching to the Brooks.  I think I'll try that first to see if it subsides then go back to the Dr if it doesn't.

I did search the boards for similar instances and found nothing else that sounded similar.  Other blood in urine issues had to do with kidney stones and was more of a constant problem.


Am I missing something?  How could your shoes have something to do with this? 
2011-02-20 10:17 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:45 AM

So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?



interesting.   i had my annual last week.  a significant amount of red blood cells were found in my urine.  doc knows what i'm training for so he called and asked if i had run or biked that day prior the test.  yep.  so he asked me to come in on a day when i was either off or hadn't worked out yet.  went in this past monday.  all clear. 

i have no idea if this is related to what you are experiencing but apparently there is something to exercise at some level  and blood in the urine. 

i'm lost on how this could be shoe related as well. 

there are several doctors here on BT.  i contacted one about my blood pressure meds and he was incredibly helpful. depending on how you approach it and knowing its an "over the internet" thing and not an office visit,  they might be able to at least point you in the right direction.

please do something before your race.


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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:45 AM

So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?



please do something before your race.


X2.....That would get me to Doctor real fast, remember, we are supposed to being invovled in this triathlon lifestyle for fun and for fitness!


2011-02-20 10:51 AM
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:45 AM

So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?



interesting.   i had my annual last week.  a significant amount of red blood cells were found in my urine.  doc knows what i'm training for so he called and asked if i had run or biked that day prior the test.  yep.  so he asked me to come in on a day when i was either off or hadn't worked out yet.  went in this past monday.  all clear. 

i have no idea if this is related to what you are experiencing but apparently there is something to exercise at some level  and blood in the urine. 

i'm lost on how this could be shoe related as well. 

there are several doctors here on BT.  i contacted one about my blood pressure meds and he was incredibly helpful. depending on how you approach it and knowing its an "over the internet" thing and not an office visit,  they might be able to at least point you in the right direction.

please do something before your race.


I have never heard of this before.  I don't see how it could possibly be shoe related, but I would get a second opinion.  Have you had your annual lately?  if not, I would start there. Mid cylce bleeding always freaks me out.
 
I agree with Fatty on things changing with high levels of training.  My ALT, AST and CK numbers were always elevated when I was in the final throws of marathon training.  Given my epilepsy, I had to watch that crap carefully.   It may be simply training, but it may be something else entirely.  I would NOT dismiss it.
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fattyfatfat - 2011-02-20 11:17 AM
mighty mom - 2011-02-20 7:45 AM

So, um, I'm having an issue.  I'm peeing blood after each run.  It started 2.5- 3 months ago but only after my long runs.  About 1.5 months ago I asked my Dr about it and she said from my description she's certain it's just b/c of the "trauma" to the bladder while running and I don't need to worry.  She did urinalysis which came back a-ok. 

Well, as of this week it is now happening after every run and the only thing I can even remotely tie this to is my running shoes.  I switched to Brooks Ghosts 3 months ago from Asics Gel Nimbus. Anyone experience something similar?  Also, I've got a HM next Sunday, should I go out and get new shoes now or wait until after the race?



I personally would still go to the Dr. and get it checked out just to be safe.
interesting.   i had my annual last week.  a significant amount of red blood cells were found in my urine.  doc knows what i'm training for so he called and asked if i had run or biked that day prior the test.  yep.  so he asked me to come in on a day when i was either off or hadn't worked out yet.  went in this past monday.  all clear. 

i have no idea if this is related to what you are experiencing but apparently there is something to exercise at some level  and blood in the urine. 

i'm lost on how this could be shoe related as well. 

there are several doctors here on BT.  i contacted one about my blood pressure meds and he was incredibly helpful. depending on how you approach it and knowing its an "over the internet" thing and not an office visit,  they might be able to at least point you in the right direction.

please do something before your race.


I need to go back through the transcripts on B3n Gr33nfield's podcast, (LOL, his name is a dirty word on BT due to his spamming).  Anyways, someone asked that same exact question and I think he said just what your Dr.  said "trauma to the bladder from running can cause blood in urine"  I guess it's not that uncommon.  Pretty sure it's nothing to do with shoes.  I'll post the link when I find it.

I guess since you already saw your Dr., you either go with what she said or find a second opinion.


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Interesting. I also switched to Brooks after using Acsis Gel Nimbus (because I was recommended Brooks, so I'm giving it a try).  Never had bloody urine. As others has stated, I don't get how shoes has to do with it. 

The article seems to explain that pretty clearly. Talk to your GP and see if you can get a ultrasound/bladder vessel check test to make sure it's functioning properly.
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Thanks all for your input and concern. The only reason why I thought of the shoes is bc that was the only thing that had changed when this started. my training, mileage, stride, weight and diet was all was the same. The Brooks ghosts too are a little more minimal than the asics which makes me think its possible(not necessarily probable) that it could be the reason..

When I talked with my Dr it was for my yearly and she did both urinalysis and blood. Both came back normal. She's a runner as well and from the long discussion we had on it she seemed to feel confident that it was purely the bladder "trauma" as the inside of the bladder is very mucous-y and bloody.

But yes it is concerning especially now that its more frequent. I'll see if I can get in before the race but switch back on the shoes too just to see what happens. Thanks again, everyone.
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Christina - I'd follow up on that.  Maybe with an urologist?  That's a symptom of interstitial cystitis - among a lot of other possibilities.


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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 12:52 PM Thanks all for your input and concern. The only reason why I thought of the shoes is bc that was the only thing that had changed when this started. my training, mileage, stride, weight and diet was all was the same. The Brooks ghosts too are a little more minimal than the asics which makes me think its possible(not necessarily probable) that it could be the reason..

When I talked with my Dr it was for my yearly and she did both urinalysis and blood. Both came back normal. She's a runner as well and from the long discussion we had on it she seemed to feel confident that it was purely the bladder "trauma" as the inside of the bladder is very mucous-y and bloody.

But yes it is concerning especially now that its more frequent. I'll see if I can get in before the race but switch back on the shoes too just to see what happens. Thanks again, everyone.


This is from his podcast.  He's not a doctor (which he repeats all the time), so take it for what it's worth, he does seem to research his answers from listening to his podcast.  At least it might give you something to start with.  Sorry there is some marketing stuff in there as well but again something to read...

Jen asks: I have been using your Shape21 program. I have lost 10 lbs in three weeks and run 1 mile per hour faster. The only problem is I’m having is blood in my urine. My urologist cannot see anything wrong. I guess this happens with running. I have had this problem before with marathon training. However it seems to be more frequent and I am running at a lower mileage.

Ben answers: Bloody urine with exercise. It’s something that I’ve seen happen before. I’ve had it before after a triathlon and it’s something that happens a lot with long distance runners. The medical term for it is hematerrea. And one of the main reasons for it is because you get impact of the walls of the bladder while you’re running. So this repetitive impact time after time can cause damage enough to the bladder wall to where there’s a little bit of bleeding that happens and some of that blood ends up getting into your urine. The same way that excess friction might cause your nipples to bleed or the inside of your thighs to chafe.

Another reason could be a problem with the permeability of the filtering apparatus in your kidney. Inside your kidney, there’s basically a network of blood vessels that surround a membrane and the membrane is called your glomerelous. And whereas normally blood doesn’t get through the glomerelous when you exercise, it may increase the permeability of the glomerelous and allow red blood cells to actually collect in the urine and typically stops once you stop exercising. And then the last thing could be a hemoglobin problem and that can occur when red blood cells are actually physically damaged as they pass through the blood capillaries of your feet while you’re running, as your foot impacts the ground and this can cause a release of the hemoglobin in the actual cell and the hemoglobin ends up getting excreted in the urine and causes that red color in the urine. So, any of these can happen and one of the things that can increase your susceptibility to this is if you are increasing in the intensity or the impact nature of your activity or if you are taking something that is considered an anticoagulant or a natural blood thinner.

Now some of the things that are natural blood thinners would be anything that’s high in what’s called salacylites and that would be like a lot of these herbs like curry powder, cayenne, ginger, thyme, cinnamon, peppermint. Taking in large amounts of any of these… and interestingly, oregano as well which I know I recommend in the Shape21 program, could cause enough blood thinning to where if you combined it with enough impact based exercise, you could get some blood in the urine. A high intake of vitamin E could also cause that as well as high intake of omega 3 fatty acids. Now, if you are naturally susceptible to having thin blood and have this hematerrea and you’re taking oil of oregano which I recommend in Shape21 and you are taking Omega 3 fatty acid which I recommend in Shape21, it is possible that that could be causing the blood in your urine. What I would do is I would not take the oil of oregano and I would back off the Omega 3 fatty acid intake. Cut that down just a little bit, pay attention to it. See what happens to it and that may have an effect. The other thing you may want to do is for the high intensity interval sessions that are in that program – especially if you’re doing the advanced nature of that program, then you may want to substitute. Instead of doing running for the high intensity intervals, do a non-impact like bicycling or elliptical trainer.

Now of course Shape21 – I have that at beginner level to where an elderly person could go in sedentary and start into the beginner program and do ok all the way to advance which is something that I did for about six months. Got super ripped. But it definitely kicked my butt. So there’s different levels in that program that you can access and either way you may want to just look into the supplements that you’re using and look into dropping down the impact nature a little bit. If you’ve seen a doctor and they’re not too concerned, I’m not too concerned. But again it could be something to look into from a blood thinning and an impact perspective

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Techdiver - 2011-02-18 6:32 PM Well I am not a Fast runner.

      But today I went out with my friend/workout partner for a run. She runs..well twice as fast as me any given day.

But I managed to hammer out 5k at just under 30 mins for the first time in my life. The first km was 6:50 warming up, the next 4 were 5:35min/km roughly.... Funny slightly under a year ago I started running and I ran like 9min/km and thought I was going to die. Mid summer I was running 7:30/km and thought I wasn't going to make it any faster..

Today is my first sub 6:00/km average for a full 5km... I have a smile from ear to ear. Previous fast time was 33:10 for 5km

WOOT WOOT......


I hope everyone has a good weekend.


Congratulations.  That is a huge accomplishment!! 
 
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Sam, that is a smokin' hot bike!   Awesome.

Blood in the urine - that would scare me.  Please get that checked out and keep us posted.

Speaking of peeing, I had to go SO BAD during the first 6 miles of my run this afternoon.  Finally broke down and went in the woods.  I'll have to give my kegel muscles lots of credit - they served me well.  
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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 12:52 PM Thanks all for your input and concern. The only reason why I thought of the shoes is bc that was the only thing that had changed when this started. my training, mileage, stride, weight and diet was all was the same. The Brooks ghosts too are a little more minimal than the asics which makes me think its possible(not necessarily probable) that it could be the reason..

When I talked with my Dr it was for my yearly and she did both urinalysis and blood. Both came back normal. She's a runner as well and from the long discussion we had on it she seemed to feel confident that it was purely the bladder "trauma" as the inside of the bladder is very mucous-y and bloody.

But yes it is concerning especially now that its more frequent. I'll see if I can get in before the race but switch back on the shoes too just to see what happens. Thanks again, everyone.


I just started marathon training last year, I ran 6 marathons during the year and 5 out of 6 I had bleeding after the race due to bladder trama, only during the races, not during long training runs. I guess the higher intensity combined with the long distance was the cause.

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mighty mom - 2011-02-20 12:52 PM Thanks all for your input and concern. The only reason why I thought of the shoes is bc that was the only thing that had changed when this started. my training, mileage, stride, weight and diet was all was the same. The Brooks ghosts too are a little more minimal than the asics which makes me think its possible(not necessarily probable) that it could be the reason..

When I talked with my Dr it was for my yearly and she did both urinalysis and blood. Both came back normal. She's a runner as well and from the long discussion we had on it she seemed to feel confident that it was purely the bladder "trauma" as the inside of the bladder is very mucous-y and bloody.

But yes it is concerning especially now that its more frequent. I'll see if I can get in before the race but switch back on the shoes too just to see what happens. Thanks again, everyone.


I just started marathon training last year, I ran 6 marathons during the year and 5 out of 6 I had bleeding after the race due to bladder trama, only during the races, not during long training runs. I guess the higher intensity combined with the long distance was the cause.

Linda


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MADISON SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED FOR THE FOURTH DAY DUE TO THE TEACHER "SICKNESS" PROTESTS.

AND NO THOSE DAYS WILL NOT BE MADE UP.  THEY ARE LOST LEARNING FOR THE KIDS.
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Feel the pain, Suzy.  Not fair to the kids, who have no say in the matter.

Christina - may be just hard work causing your bleeding.  Training stinks at times!!   May be more of an issue - just make sure you rule it out.  I have IC - PM me if you have any questions.  NO changes in training, just slight differences in lifestyle!
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Feel the pain, Suzy.  Not fair to the kids, who have no say in the matter.

Christina - may be just hard work causing your bleeding.  Training stinks at times!!   May be more of an issue - just make sure you rule it out.  I have IC - PM me if you have any questions.  NO changes in training, just slight differences in lifestyle!
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Hey MG!

Quick update. Brush fire spread through golf course in my neighborhood. Luckily nowhere near my house!

Training going well.

Finally designed my own tri-suit. Should be here by mid-April. Here is the design I put together:

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